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post Apr 13 2013, 05:22 PM
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So in a strange way I'm being motivated by motivating a friend of mine and his playing. He's more into his jazz than me, so I've started going through chord shapes based on some Jimmy Bruno lesson material I have.

He starts with string set 6432 and then goes onto others. Taking note where the root note is helps.

Your blog shows a different set of string sets, which makes sense, but it does boggle the mind how many combinations there are.

Obviously not trying to run before I can walk is the key.

Are there any other tips you can give?


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post Apr 13 2013, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Apr 13 2013, 05:22 PM) *
So in a strange way I'm being motivated by motivating a friend of mine and his playing. He's more into his jazz than me, so I've started going through chord shapes based on some Jimmy Bruno lesson material I have.

He starts with string set 6432 and then goes onto others. Taking note where the root note is helps.

Your blog shows a different set of string sets, which makes sense, but it does boggle the mind how many combinations there are.

Obviously not trying to run before I can walk is the key.

Are there any other tips you can give?


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I like the 6432 and 5321 shapes for playing duos or where there is no bass player, and those lower, thicker sounding chords can sound great.

For chord soloing, or soloing with a bassist, I like 5432 and 4321 string sets probably the most.

But to be honest, most of the time I play 4th voicings, stacks of 4th intervals, or just the 3rd and 7th of each chord with some color tones on top. So playing 2-3 note chords on the 432 strings most often.


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post Apr 13 2013, 06:47 PM
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For my playing I'm biased towards chord soloing and duo stuff (me playing over myself) I'm much more intrigued by comping and chord soloing than lead playing with jazz, with all the inside note changes that imply or follow the melody.

It's good to know which string sets to concentrate on at the beginning of my quest.

I'll get some under my fingers and then put them to work with some real book standards, and make sure I recognise the ii V I progressions etc and can understand the substitutions.

I liked your blog on the Giant Steps substituitions, about 10-20 more watches and I might fully grasp the concept of the Coltrane Matrix


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post Apr 13 2013, 07:04 PM
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One thing to keep in mind when you're watching J. Bruno vids or any other jazz chord tutorial where the player is using an archtop guitar ... an archtop has a quicker attack, quicker decay and generally less low end so they/you can get away with using the 6th string in almost any ensemble situation - big band, duo, etc. Most solid bodies and even thinlines (335) have too much sustain as well as low end. *A standard Telecaster is the exception which is why so many jazzers favor them for solid body guitars.

Something you may dig and find useful (it's a pretty rough transfer from VHS - from 1980) ...




The sheets that go with it ... http://bachmansmusicstudio.com/files/Ted_G...h_the_stars.pdf

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post Apr 13 2013, 07:23 PM
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You know I can't get enough of Ted biggrin.gif


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post Apr 13 2013, 09:15 PM
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This is awesome, So much information but in an easily digestible way!


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here´s another good instructional video on chord shapes and memorisation ...

andy summers hot licks video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLJCOtG6CF0



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