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ConnorGilks
post May 1 2013, 05:47 AM
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I'm been rocking this beauty for about 5 years now and love it!

http://www.rondomusic.com/pdc4100e.html

It's extremely sturdy and a fantastic price compared to the extremely overpriced Pedaltrain stuff. Unfortunately, I may have to end up buying (or probably building) a Pedaltrain-style board to keep in this case, just so that I can make a bit more room by keeping my power supply under my board. It's missing my Nova Delay and I just threw this board together on Saturday, but it's a start, the start of a new and killer board!



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post May 1 2013, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (Spock @ Apr 30 2013, 02:44 PM) *
Yea, I feel the same way, I've gone the route of programmable effects before only to be disappointed every single time, and not because of the sound, but because of maintaining, tweaking, it's almost like writing code. Stomp boxes are the way to go in my opinion. Wish SKB made a unit just a bit wider.


Exactly man! That's the feeling I got as well! Coding is the word to describe the situation. us guitar players shouldn't be coding but playing actually. That's why I love my tube preamp tongue.gif


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post May 2 2013, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 1 2013, 08:39 AM) *
Exactly man! That's the feeling I got as well! Coding is the word to describe the situation. us guitar players shouldn't be coding but playing actually. That's why I love my tube preamp tongue.gif


This is a great thread smile.gif It shows how different folks embrace entirely different approaches and gear and how it all still somehow works and ends up in Music!! smile.gif In the end, it really doesn't matter if you use no fx at all, wads of stomps or an AXE FX. The way you shape "your" tone is all about "YOU". Follow your instincts, and listen to your own ears and you'll find your way forward smile.gif

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post May 2 2013, 07:47 AM
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Aye Todd!

That old saying, stating that tone is in the hands, is so true, ain't it?


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post May 3 2013, 03:59 AM
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Yup smile.gif So many players spend so much time and money searching for tone in their gear when most of it is just hiding in their fingers. Getting the tone out of the fingers is the tricky part, but like anything else, it just takes practice smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 2 2013, 02:47 AM) *
Aye Todd!

That old saying, stating that tone is in the hands, is so true, ain't it?



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post May 3 2013, 08:04 AM
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Yeah man, I totally agree - we all know the Satriani video in which he makes a cheap-o guitar sound mindblowingly close to his tone smile.gif


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post May 3 2013, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 3 2013, 07:04 AM) *
Yeah man, I totally agree - we all know the Satriani video in which he makes a cheap-o guitar sound mindblowingly close to his tone smile.gif


Apparently one of us is out of the loop! Link?


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post May 4 2013, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ May 3 2013, 08:07 AM) *
Apparently one of us is out of the loop! Link?


Right away mate, here it is:



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post May 4 2013, 10:00 AM
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WOW! Joe and I have something in common! I can take a really expensive guitar and make it sound like a piece of junk.
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post May 5 2013, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Spock @ May 4 2013, 09:00 AM) *
WOW! Joe and I have something in common! I can take a really expensive guitar and make it sound like a piece of junk.


Naaah, you are definitely being way to hard on yourself man smile.gif

Take some time and look at the steps you took so far, you will see that you are a long way forward, not backward wink.gif Think like that and you will definitely keep going! By the way, what are you working on right now? smile.gif


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post May 5 2013, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 5 2013, 08:40 AM) *
Naaah, you are definitely being way to hard on yourself man smile.gif

Take some time and look at the steps you took so far, you will see that you are a long way forward, not backward wink.gif Think like that and you will definitely keep going! By the way, what are you working on right now? smile.gif



Actually, more than practicing anything I've mostly been working on my own stuff. I've recently gotten with a killer keyboardist (this guy is a great guitarist too who years ago inspired me to get in bands, but he now plays keyboards) as well as another guitarist who now plays drums, and a drummer who now plays bass. We're all old friends and except for the keyboardist I've played in bands with the other guys. So I'm having a lot of fun with that and the keys have really added another dimension to my songs.

I have been working on the Beginner Pentatonic Licks and Ben's Vibrato lesson, but my bends are not as smooth as they should be right now, and my vibrato still needs work.

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post May 6 2013, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (Spock @ May 5 2013, 06:52 PM) *
Actually, more than practicing anything I've mostly been working on my own stuff. I've recently gotten with a killer keyboardist (this guy is a great guitarist too who years ago inspired me to get in bands, but he now plays keyboards) as well as another guitarist who now plays drums, and a drummer who now plays bass. We're all old friends and except for the keyboardist I've played in bands with the other guys. So I'm having a lot of fun with that and the keys have really added another dimension to my songs.

I have been working on the Beginner Pentatonic Licks and Ben's Vibrato lesson, but my bends are not as smooth as they should be right now, and my vibrato still needs work.


Sounds like you are enjoying the creative process a lot, eh? smile.gif Great thing! Why not post some audio recordings of the two lessons you are working on, in their exact state at this moment - we could make suggestions and help you out with the bends and vibrato. What say you, man?


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post May 16 2013, 04:12 AM
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I have a few different boards that I configure based upon what I need for a particular gig.

Last summer I used this board for the majority of the gigs I did. I try to have the basics - a clean sound, a slightly dirty sound and an overdriven sound and maybe some reverb and tremolo. The Blue Box I needed for one song that the artist I was working with played.

This board has the following pedals:

1- Boss Slow Gear
2- Maxon Compressor
3- Klon Centuar
4- Maxon OD-808
5- MXR Blue Box
6- Fuchs Tremolo

I was using the Peterson Strobo Stomp 2 and the pedal with the two switches controls the CM Headroom that I keep back with my amp. The EH Hum pedal I sometimes use if I bring an old 50s or 60s Strat that isn't shielded out.



I have a slightly larger board that I use if I need more effects then I would typically use. This pic is from when I was trying to figure out how I was going to lay it out:



If I go out on a bunch of dates and there need to be certain effects turned on and off quickly or odd combinations I use a GCX switching system with a Ground Control Pro.

There are many different ways to configure this, but I usually have the 8 top buttons as on/off for any pedal like on a regular board. The bottom 4 I will program something like intro/verse/chorus/solo for each song in the set. That way you hit program up for the next song and the sounds you need are right in there. Very quiet due to the loops and very easy to use.




Here is the GCP:



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post May 16 2013, 08:32 AM
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Interesting configuration man smile.gif It would be awesome if you could tell us your story so that we may know how these configurations fit to various styles!


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post May 16 2013, 03:22 PM
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I do a few different things.

The main thing I do is write songs and work with developing artists. A lot of times when someone is working with an entertainment lawyer or when they're signed to a development deal I spend time working with the artist and the label's A&R/marketing department types to come up with material and/or get that person ready to record.

I usually will spend a couple weeks with someone getting to know them and kind of figuring out what they're trying to do and from there I'll start writing some songs, or taking songs that have been given to me and getting them to click. Then we'll do 3 or 4 songs and hand them off to give the business types an idea of what they're doing and it helps them put a marketing plan together and pair them with the right team to work on their release.

In the summer I'll usually go out for about 4-6 weeks (25 - 40 dates) with either someone I have been working with or one of the people I have played with in the past. I tend to do something similar in the fall but I spent so much of the last 15 years or so traveling everywhere that these days I like to be closer to home and be with my kids. There are still a couple people I will do half tours with but I'm trying to put those days behind me.

Aside from that I do a lot of work for television and film. That's not always guitar stuff. Sometimes it's more writing or project managment for lack of a better term.

I wrote a blog entry about my pedal board a while back. You can read it here: http://www.tanpants.net/?p=18 if you want more detail.

Getting back to pedalboards, these days I don't have a set board at home. When I sit around and play for fun I usually play clean so I plug into an amp. When I'm recording something I'll take a board and put what I need on it. I keep my pedals I use a lot on a shelf setup in my studio. For the odd stuff I have a bunch of those old wooden coke cases with the dividers that stack with everything else in them. I keep a bunch of patch cords around and am always switching things in and out.

Here is how I store the pedals I use a lot.



When I play live I find that having fewer boxes on the floor tends to be the way to go. My main live amps tend to run clean and I'll use the Klon for a boost and the 808 for the dirt. I'll have some tremolo and maybe something else if I'm replicating album tracks or if an effect is vital to a song. The less things you have the less chance something will fail or that you will spend time hitting boxes instead of playing.

Pedal boards are great if you're going after one thing but at home I like the physical board without anything locked down so I can experiment.

The one thing I really love for everything are the new Sanyo wireless power supplies. They make life super easy, there are no cords to run and no ground loops because they're not plugged in. The best idea to come along in years.

Here are some pics of how I use my small board (I make most of mine myself). I sized it to fit inside a case that can hold a lot of my 1x12 amps. If I'm doing something that isn't playing huge venues or has a limit on cartage I'll use this. For my own local things I use it as well.






When I go out with the GCX I do keep my tuner and wah up front:



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Aside from the interesting post which I enjoyed reading - you obviously know a lot about pedals biggrin.gif I was curious about the Sanyo wireless power supply - does it run on batteries, or?


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post May 17 2013, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 17 2013, 09:26 AM) *
Aside from the interesting post which I enjoyed reading - you obviously know a lot about pedals biggrin.gif I was curious about the Sanyo wireless power supply - does it run on batteries, or?


No, it's awesome. It is rechargeable. You get several hours out of one charge as well. Very slick - no power cord runs to the board and very quiet, as there is no AC hum/ground loops. Also, it doesn't matter if the venue you're at has bad/noisy power

Plus if you go international you just need a different charger.

I got one a while back then Boss is running/ran a special where if you bought two pedals you got one free. My tuner had died so I bought a TU-3 and the cheapest other pedal they make (some Overdrive for $40) and got another one free.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20019530-1.html


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post May 17 2013, 03:33 PM
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How long will the Sanyo power say, 4 or 5 pedals? (tuner, 2 drives, mod, delay)


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i think it would depend on the current draw. i have never had one die after 2/3 hours.


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Very interesting! Thanks man! But let me get this straight - if I want to power up a few pedals (4-5 having various voltage requirements) - first off, is this possible and second, if yes, how much will it last?


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