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Todd Simpson
post May 7 2013, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 6 2013, 01:43 PM) *
Thanks smile.gif but still I'm trying not to resolve to used this time :S



To sum up. wink.gif


1.)No matter what, try before you buy.

2.)No matter what, make sure you buy the guitar because you like it, and how it plays, not because anyone else said it was good.

3.)Used gear is cheaper. Better bang for your buck.



let us know what you end up with smile.gif

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post May 7 2013, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 6 2013, 03:06 PM) *
Thanks man, I've got them both down on my list smile.gif and I like that interface, especially for that price biggrin.gif

Also, you've got an Ibanez Jem, right? I know my next question would be really hard to answer, but would you say that either your Jem or your PRS SE is better in any way than the other?


smile.gif It's like asking if Bruce Lee would kick Jackie Chan's behind laugh.gif

They are different guitars, but the JEM has a personality and appearance that will usually drag you in a certain direction - the Vai direction biggrin.gif and it has a Floyd. I am only using it now, because I don't have another standard tuned guitar. Once the new PRS C3 arrives in my hands, I will put the JEM on the wall.

I can really feel the difference between the PRS and the JEM and for me personally, the PRS is a better choice smile.gif


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post May 7 2013, 06:38 PM
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Great quote!!! That bit about Jackie chan and Bruce is perfect smile.gif it illustrates how two things can both be very different but still both be great for entirely different reasons.

It's a natural question to ask as a new player. Which gear/axe is "better"/"best" and its part and parcel to the journey to be frustrated slightly at the truth hidden in apparent ambiguity when experienced players try to convey how relative and subjective buying an instrument can be.


QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 7 2013, 01:38 AM) *
smile.gif It's like asking if Bruce Lee would kick Jackie Chan's behind laugh.gif

They are different guitars, but the JEM has a personality and appearance that will usually drag you in a certain direction - the Vai direction biggrin.gif and it has a Floyd. I am only using it now, because I don't have another standard tuned guitar. Once the new PRS C3 arrives in my hands, I will put the JEM on the wall.

I can really feel the difference between the PRS and the JEM and for me personally, the PRS is a better choice smile.gif



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post May 7 2013, 07:14 PM
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That Ibby is a rare bird! They were only made for about a year. Is it used? They have not made for a few years. If you like. How it plays and sounds, see if you can work a bit better deal.



QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 5 2013, 01:50 AM) *
Thank you guys! I've contacted a few stores around and seen some guitars now.

@Jouve: I'll have to think about that one, I've never tried a Godin before smile.gif

@Todd: The only one my local music store has that suits me is an RG470MHZ, and it looks beautiful, mahogany and all biggrin.gif he's selling it for $500. What do you think?

@Maharzan and Sinisa: Yes, I agree with that completely, but I've tried that Jem and it suited me perfectly, it had extremely low action and the weight and body size were just optimal for me, but the price wasn't tongue.gif that's why I was asking for alternatives. Just asking for opinions because I want something that isn't such a heavy investment but becomes 100% loyal to me biggrin.gif that's one of the reasons I don't like buying online, because I don't get to test the guitar before ordering it smile.gif



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post May 7 2013, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 4 2013, 05:27 PM) *
So I thought of buying Ibanez RG350DX, which would cost me around $500, but a friend of mine who runs a studio said he doesn't like that one for some reason. He suggested Ibanez RG1570 Prestige, but it'd cost me $1150 (with a hard case).

I can recommend the 350 DX, I have one. mine's a Korean made one rather than the later Indonesian ones. I swapped out the original P/Ups for Seymour Duncans (Jazz in the Neck and a JB Jr in the Bridge) and a Dimarzio Evolution Single Coil in the centre.
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 5 2013, 01:50 AM) *
Thank you guys! I've contacted a few stores around and seen some guitars now.

@Jouve: I'll have to think about that one, I've never tried a Godin before smile.gif

@Todd: The only one my local music store has that suits me is an RG470MHZ, and it looks beautiful, mahogany and all biggrin.gif he's selling it for $500. What do you think?

@Maharzan and Sinisa: Yes, I agree with that completely, but I've tried that Jem and it suited me perfectly, it had extremely low action and the weight and body size were just optimal for me, but the price wasn't tongue.gif that's why I was asking for alternatives. Just asking for opinions because I want something that isn't such a heavy investment but becomes 100% loyal to me biggrin.gif that's one of the reasons I don't like buying online, because I don't get to test the guitar before ordering it smile.gif


I'd go try that RG470 out, that neck should be amazingly thin, as it is a wizard III neck.

Time to make people drool! laugh.gif





BAM! Those are all the guitars I've owned over the years. Only 1 guitar is missing which was a Schecter Loomis. But to prove that value doesn't always mean better. I only have the Ibanez S770 out of all them. It is probably the cheapest one I've owned. Most people would kill for half of those. Just because it plays good in the store doesn't mean when you have had it for a month that it feels the same. When the WoW factor has left and you still play it. Then you know it was a good buy. Everyone of those guitars played great. But each had a flaw for me. As I sit here and type this I have my S770 in my lap. The only downfall to it, the pickups, but past that it has lasted I want to say 2-3 years for me.

Go out and try guitars to see what you like/dislike about them. Then come back be like. HEY! I love the neck of the PRS, but want the body of a Les Paul, BAM! Ibanez Art Series or a ESP/LTD EC-Series. Just helps with more knowledge of what you are looking for.


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post May 7 2013, 09:52 PM
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I really love the rg550's for their thin neck. Really awesome guitars to rely on. But as said, its like choosing a girlfriend for you, we couldnt do that for you, you should do what feels right to you.


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post May 8 2013, 07:22 AM
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For me, the first picture with the PRS and that Music Man would be perfect. I played on a Music Man at a friend's place and it was like butter on the fingers... wow biggrin.gif Todd is right smile.gif The only way in which you can figure out what instrument fits you, is to try them and see how comfy they can feel in your hands and if what you can hear out of them is pleasing. That great tone will nevertheless be achieved with some tweaking which you need time for, so, in this case Travis' approach of furiously buying and selling lots of axes is a winner for certain - he most probably managed to understand which guitar offers what he wants.


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post May 8 2013, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 8 2013, 02:22 AM) *
For me, the first picture with the PRS and that Music Man would be perfect. I played on a Music Man at a friend's place and it was like butter on the fingers... wow biggrin.gif Todd is right smile.gif The only way in which you can figure out what instrument fits you, is to try them and see how comfy they can feel in your hands and if what you can hear out of them is pleasing. That great tone will nevertheless be achieved with some tweaking which you need time for, so, in this case Travis' approach of furiously buying and selling lots of axes is a winner for certain - he most probably managed to understand which guitar offers what he wants.


My problem with most guitars is weight, my LP I think was some where around 14lbs. It hurt to play standing and even long times when sitting it would wear me down. Thus I like the S it is half that weight and I can play it for upwards of 8 hours no issuses.

Yeah everyone loved the EBMM/PRS the necks are a tad thicker than my Ibanez, they weigh in around 10-11lbs. But I've also noticed that all my guitars have Floyds or knock offs not just a trem to do subtle vibratos.


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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ May 8 2013, 09:48 AM) *
My problem with most guitars is weight, my LP I think was some where around 14lbs. It hurt to play standing and even long times when sitting it would wear me down. Thus I like the S it is half that weight and I can play it for upwards of 8 hours no issuses.

Yeah everyone loved the EBMM/PRS the necks are a tad thicker than my Ibanez, they weigh in around 10-11lbs. But I've also noticed that all my guitars have Floyds or knock offs not just a trem to do subtle vibratos.


I won't get a floyd ever again smile.gif The subtle trems are my piece of heaven for certain. The floyd takes way too much time to set and change the strings on.


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post May 8 2013, 05:17 PM
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Oh man, those beauties blink.gif

@Todd: Nope, the RG470 is new! biggrin.gif and yeah, I've tried it, it plays amazingly smooth smile.gif
@Jones: I'm gonna try 350DX on the shop and see if it works for me biggrin.gif


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post May 9 2013, 05:14 AM
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In that case, the RG470 is worth considering but you should try to get him to trim a tad off the price smile.gif It's a very rare Ibanez and finding a new one of those is even more rare since they have not been made in a while and are something of a collectors item among IBBY fans smile.gif

Here is a link to the guitar in the IBBY WIKI. The stopped production in 2004!!! So if it's new, it means it's been in a warehouse for almost 10 years? Look it over carefully, make sure it's not "Nused" smile.gif

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG470

Todd

QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 8 2013, 12:17 PM) *
Oh man, those beauties blink.gif

@Todd: Nope, the RG470 is new! biggrin.gif and yeah, I've tried it, it plays amazingly smooth smile.gif
@Jones: I'm gonna try 350DX on the shop and see if it works for me biggrin.gif


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post May 9 2013, 08:41 AM
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Oh, sorry Todd, I think I misunderstood when you said RG470. I meant to say he has an RG470MHZ, they started producing it in 2011, that's the one I'm talking about, the one with the mahogany body smile.gif

This one: http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG470MHZ


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post May 10 2013, 09:21 PM
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That's still good news smile.gif They only made those for one year!!! In 2011. So if it's new, it's been waiting for you for a couple of years. Again, limited run guitars have an edge over mass produced models in terms of attraction for collectors/buyers. It won't help much if you sell it back to the store. But on Ebay for example, it could help a good bit.


But the same rules apply, try before you buy and always see if you can get a better price than is first asked. Paying the initial asking price isn't always needed. But if you can't get them to budge on the price. You can to decide if it's worth it. That's a nice guitar. The pickups are not the top of the range, but then again, the pickups in my stock RG560 are not top of the range either and I have yet to replace them. Probably never will as my RG is now a collectors item and keeping it stock actually helps retain value. Not to mention that I like the pickups smile.gif

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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ May 9 2013, 03:41 AM) *
Oh, sorry Todd, I think I misunderstood when you said RG470. I meant to say he has an RG470MHZ, they started producing it in 2011, that's the one I'm talking about, the one with the mahogany body smile.gif

This one: http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG470MHZ



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Thanks loads, Todd smile.gif


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