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May 14 2013, 03:36 PM
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Can't tell which is first but wahs usually like to be first in line right after the guitar.
If that's how it is set up and it's sounding thin then start switching up the order ... Try: Big Muff > Wah > Tuner or tuner > Wah > Muff, etc. Also, start with no pedals - add the wah (does it sound good?), add the Muff (still sounding good?) *Don't use cheap cables between the fx - that could be the problem too. What's the thing with the 'blue' light on? -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 14 2013, 06:30 PM
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A compressor will not help with the problem you're describing.
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May 14 2013, 08:58 PM
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Todd is right about this. There are not right and wrong ways to use effects. It depends on each part of your equipment and your tastes. Experimenting with a few pedals is the way to go until you get some experience with this. I have been playing guitar professionally for more 12 years and I'm still experimenting and searching and discovering things. Be sure that your pedals are true bypass, to avoid that they affect your signal when they are off.
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May 15 2013, 11:48 AM
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Cool, thanks guys. But does anyone know the solution to my thin sound once the wah is active?
Is there a certain pedal I can buy? Or one that you feel is a must have? |
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May 15 2013, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (AdamB @ May 15 2013, 06:12 AM)  The 'thin' sound may not be fix-able by adding another pedal. A lot of wah's have quite a thin sound, this is especially true of vintage-style wahs. This is not really a failing of the wah but simply because of what a wah is. A wah is a sweepable filter, the filter setup is different for different models of wah (some wah's have selectable filter and sweep ranges). Most wah's are a band-pass type filter. This means that where you position the pedal is basically focusing on a section of the signal and cutting the rest. This means if the pedal is in the toe position, you're getting high-end and not a lot else, in the middle you're getting mids and not a lot else, and in the heel position you're getting bass and not a lot else. The short of this, is that obviously you're losing a lot of frequencies, and more generally 'energy', from the signal. Which results in it sounding thinner than the dry signal. Your best bet is to try different models of wah and see if there is one that gets on better with your setup. As I say, each wah has different filtering properties and so some will work 'better' with your guitar/amp/pedal combination than others. From my personal experience, I find that clean wah tones generally sound nice on their own, where-as overdriven wah mostly only seems to really work when I'm playing with a full band, I think because the wah just helps it cut through and you don't notice the missing filtered-out content so much because these frequencies are being supplied by other instruments in the mix. +1 on all this. Great info. Exactly which model dunlop wah-wah pedal do you have? -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 15 2013, 11:59 PM
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Hi,
Looks like you have a really cool setup. One thing to consider is that wah wahs are notorious tone sucking pedals. There are some great booteek models out there that do away with this problem but most of them are kind of expensive. Now, I'm the kind of d0ode that doesn't mind paying for cool stuff, but I'm not into wah enough to do so. I have a reissue Vox that I did a true bypass mod to and it solved the problem. IIRC I changed out the switch in mine for a different type and soldered a couple wires and cut one and it sounds the same in or out of the chain. I also replaced a resistor that (for me) made it sound a little fatter. A compressor can be a great effect, but it won't solve the problem you're having. Google Crybaby True Bypass mod and for a couple bucks you can probably solve your problem. Something like this (do a search for the exact model you have!):  -------------------- company contact
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To get rid of that just TURN OFF the wah wah pedal. 
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May 24 2013, 05:27 AM
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You may want to look in to a controller box that lets you setup different sets of effects. That way button 2 can be wah and muff for example.
Here is a link to the kind of thing I"m talking about. It lets you set up different effects loops. They make a bigger one with more options as well. These run around $75 U.S. http://www.donnerdeal.com/moen-a-b-looper-...181a67b7542122c  Or you could try out a multi effects box with a built in wah which makes switching quite a bit easier  The Boss ME-xx line is popular as are various products like the RP series from digitech. Todd QUOTE (Im here to succeed @ May 14 2013, 07:38 AM)  Hi guys, so... Finally i have splashed out, i have a shaftesbury thinline, fender blues deluxe reissue, boss tu2, electro harmonix big muff, jim dunlop wah wah. at the moment when i leave the wah wah pedal active in my chain, its not sounding too good, like it sounds really high end, tinny and no middle or lower end. i'm new to all this, so i was wondering what are my options to get the best sound out of my gear, e.g. what order should i have the pedals in... and also what can i add to my pedal collection to get a better sound. thanks |
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May 24 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 23 2013, 09:27 PM) You may want to look in to a controller box that lets you setup different sets of effects. That way button 2 can be wah and muff for example. Here is a link to the kind of thing I"m talking about. It lets you set up different effects loops. They make a bigger one with more options as well. These run around $75 U.S. http://www.donnerdeal.com/moen-a-b-looper-...181a67b7542122c Or you could try out a multi effects box with a built in wah which makes switching quite a bit easier The Boss ME-xx line is popular as are various products like the RP series from digitech. Todd +1 to what Todd just mentioned. If I understand correctly you want to leave the wah 'ON' all the time (is that right?). That will effectively be cutting lots of the frequency spectrum out of your guitar and amp tone. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Dec 16 2013, 05:04 PM
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Just a quick update of my setup... the new bogner blue sounds immense!
Here's my new guitar too.. all sounding great when it's cranked up
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