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post Jul 7 2013, 02:37 PM
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Hello Arthur - this seems to be in good timing!

Don't you feel that hand position a bit cumbersome? I just tried it and it felt really weird for me as it makes my hand cramp up... Guess not everything works for everybody tongue.gif I was just curious if you ever tried to keep the thumb, pick, index ensemble NOT pushed behind the middle finger... Hope I am making sense here smile.gif


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post Jul 7 2013, 02:47 PM
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I don't really understand the point. Could you make some photo example ?

I want to understand because, yes my right hand does cramp up biggrin.gif

I was once pointed out a "weird" right hand, by Darius I think. But I didn't understand.
And YES, my hand does cramp up. So I'm really interested in you explaining a little bit more.


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I don't really understand the point. Could you make some photo example ?

I want to understand because, yes my right hand does cramp up biggrin.gif


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post Jul 7 2013, 03:10 PM
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Hey buddy smile.gif Check out some pics here: the first two are 'YES that's the relaxed manner' laugh.gif and the third one is what I think you are doing now which can most possibly be the cramping reason smile.gif That positions causes tension because the the thumb pushes the index against the other fingers. Try to keep your hand with the palm parallel to the strings and the finger tips of the middle, ring and little finger perpendicular on the guitar body (they don't necessarily touch it)


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post Jul 7 2013, 04:09 PM
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OKAY!
I didn't really see the difference between the two cases in your example, however I think I have found out what's wrong.
I've just analyzed the way I hold the pick. You are terribly right, I am forcing on the thumb, and it pushes the index back, and it creates tension. Now I realize that I am really pushing on the thumb. I need to remove this.
I was aware these last days, while practicing intensively speed picking, that there was something weird to correct in my picking. But didn't notice that it was the thumb... However it's true that I have repetitive cramp up when practicing...

I am going to try and correct that. I will post videos to show you so that you validate smile.gif

Thank you, I think it will bring a huge improvement. I was tired of being tired in the right hand biggrin.gif

By the way... It's about time I correct that point, because it would eventually lead to injury...

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Oh god, I just tested to have a free-tension right hand. I can hold the pick, without forcing on my thumb. That's wonderful I have no tensions xD. Never feelt that ahah!
Here is a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOrTmEoPDVU...eature=youtu.be

I truly have 0 tension in my thumb, and the playing is very more comfortable. I haven't practiced it and I've been playing with that tension since I play guitar so...
I don't notice a huge visual difference, but the feeling is not the same at all. I am very relaxed, and even the inside picking doesn't make me feel additionnal tensionn, which was the case.

I will focus on practicing without that thumb tension. I am sure it will be a huge improvement !
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Hey buddy! GREAT! This looks totally nice! It is incredible how good it feels, right? biggrin.gif

There is no difference between the first two pics - I just wanted you to see how the hand looks from each side wink.gif Now, work on the exercises using your newly acquired technique - it won't matter if you feel slow at this point, because you need time for your body to fully assimilate the new technique.

Tell me, do you feel like the exercises I have given you are too easy now?


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To be honest I think it is a real breakthrough for my technique... I have always felt that feel of tension and delt with that thinking it was unavoidable. And it was really slowing me down and it was a limit.

Really cool to feel the hands very relaxed. I really focus on letting my hand as relaxed as possible. I know that that way, very high speed are reacheable... Which wasn't the case with my old technique.

Don't worry, I am not rushing speed. I played about all the day yesterday (8 hours maybe...), only practicing the stuff I was on before that, but integrating the "relaxed" technique. I started veeeeeeeery slow, and didn't hesitate to practice long enough at ridiculous speeds. I don't want to rush, I want to build a solid and accurate technique, now that I know the right one.

So, I want to tell you that NO, the exercices you gave me are not easy yet, because I need to take time to incorporate this new technique. I would like to spend a week or two on them again at least. My aim is getting a 10 after submitting a REC. biggrin.gif

Arthur


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Hey buddy! GREAT! This looks totally nice! It is incredible how good it feels, right? biggrin.gif

There is no difference between the first two pics - I just wanted you to see how the hand looks from each side wink.gif Now, work on the exercises using your newly acquired technique - it won't matter if you feel slow at this point, because you need time for your body to fully assimilate the new technique.

Tell me, do you feel like the exercises I have given you are too easy now?

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Hello Arthur!

I think that your approach is very good! I am waiting on some videos then and if everything is top notch, we will move further to more tasks, deal?


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post Jul 9 2013, 10:13 AM
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Yeah, that is fine!

I will have to practice quite a lot in order to fit comfortably and solidly this new picking approach into my playing, because I have years and years of bad habits to erase...
However, amazingly I feel that it is being integrated in my playing quite fast. I will show you some vids tonight, so you can judge it by yourself!


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I think that your approach is very good! I am waiting on some videos then and if everything is top notch, we will move further to more tasks, deal?

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Hey Cosmin,

I would like to talk about theory with you.
I have despised music theory for years. Since last year only, I understand the importance of it. I bought some books, and started reading a lot. AsI didn't practice a lot with chords and stuff, I can't remember a lot. However, my view of harmony has greatly changed. I think a lot more in term of intervals.

I have been composing for a year, and I never knew theory. However, I think it is quite important, and it may be the right moment to get into. In fact, I DONT want to spend my practice time applying theory, for now. Because to me, I have a lot HARD SKILLS to develop, namely my picking technique... I think it is more important to emphasize that aspect now, than theory.
However, I have 1 hour of transport from work to home twice a day, and it may be a time I can invest in it!

Let me describe you more or less what I have learnt about theory:
* I know the intervals, I know how to locate them on the neck
* I know the major scale / I know how to harmonize it
I know the different patterns (mode), I can play them machinaly but without really linking them together
* I know how to construct a lot of chords (maj/min, all the 7th, some others... 6th, add/sus 2)

And ... here it is. To sum up, I know how to construct chords starting from a root. My vision is really in term of "intervals". But I have not really harmony theory.
For instance, I know how to form 6th chords etc... But I am incapable of making a chord progression with chords other than the basic ones.

In fact, I bought a gypsy jazz guitar. Because I love this style of music, and I would like to learn it. However, chord jazz are not simple, and I may need some extra theory work.


So now I would like to know:
What do you think, for me, would be useful to learn in term of theory? What are in order the things that one must know?
What could I practice during my transport time? I have a tablet I could use for that, or I don't know.

I would like to have your point of view, given your experience on that theory thing.

Thanks smile.gif

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Mate - theory is not something that you can treat as 'an extra' smile.gif I will make a movie for ya, as I think it is better that way - stay tuned wink.gif


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I know that it is something that has to be worked and incorporated into practice. Although I would like to find out what may be possible to work the way I said. For instance, learning the chords paterns or I don't know...
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Hey mate - got somethin for ya:



and the lesson I am talking about in the video:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Triads..._Series_Part_1/


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Hello Cosmin!

Thank you for your video. It's a pleasure to listen to your speechs smile.gif.

Ok, first let me tell you that, I am totally aware of what you said at the beginning. I know for sure that theory is important.
In fact, I was stuborn, and I believed that theory wasn't for me. But it was before! As I told you, it's been a year since I first realize how theory was hidden in everything I did correctly musically.
I would add that theory is also a sort of scientific approach of MUSIC, and explains things that we perceive as emotions with a sort of universal language, as you said. I am very aware of that, and I know that I know nothing, but there are many possibilities that will open up when I will go into it.

I agree with you on the transport thing. It is not a good idea, because not focused. However, I often use a program
which makes me learn intervals. It make two sounds and I have to tell if it's a major 3rd, a 4th or ... I think, this is nice.

For what you said about developping a vision and understanding how note succeed each other, I already do that. I see why certain notes are here and why there. I can feel a lot of concepts hidden in what sounds nice to me, or in my compositions. However, I addmit not understanding a lot musically.
But I wiwll do as you said, I will take time on my practice to work on concepts.

For your exercice, I admit I am not used at all of thinking in notes. I always think in intervals only. I can't say the name of the notes. And what bother me is that when you change of root, you have to learn the notes again. It seems really hard to me, and a lot of "by heart". But I think you are right it must be essential.
I will do it as you say. I'll try and record as you say saying the name of notes.

I don't know how to use the circle of fifth.

Thanks, I will practice that smile.gif

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Understanding what you need to work on is crucial in solving an issue in your development, regardless of the field, so I think we are halfway on the good path, as long as we totally agree on things! smile.gif

So, please stick to the exercise and AND smile.gif read a little bit on the lesson notes in the posts below, that are in close connection with the circle of 5ths (post 168-171). If you understand things - I will give you tasks based upon the circle - looking forward to hear your conclusions and questions after reading the materials, deal?

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=615043


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I want to warn you, I am VERY not used to thinking in term of notes. As I told you I've only thinked in term of intervals. So let me take some time to digest the C major scale harmonized...ok? biggrin.gif

Then, let me share with you my thoughts. I am afraid that I will learn the C maj harmonized triads. As I don't understand a lot so far, I will have to learn it by heart. Then when I'll have to be on a different scale, everything fall apparts!! I will be lost with the "circle" changing, with the bemol and flat... But I guess it is the purpose of the circle of fifth.
All in all, I have trouble seeing if learning the notes will help me understand the whole thing. But I trust you and I will do that. Sometimes, in order to understand we have to learn by heart first.

I'll go through the post, and ask my question if I have later !



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Understanding what you need to work on is crucial in solving an issue in your development, regardless of the field, so I think we are halfway on the good path, as long as we totally agree on things! smile.gif

So, please stick to the exercise and AND smile.gif read a little bit on the lesson notes in the posts below, that are in close connection with the circle of 5ths (post 168-171). If you understand things - I will give you tasks based upon the circle - looking forward to hear your conclusions and questions after reading the materials, deal?

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=615043

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I think I am starting to figure out the missing links in your musical vocabulary smile.gif take care of the tasks and hopefully I will have assumed things right and we'll jump the hurdle!

Looking forward to hear your thoughts after going through the circle related materials and the harmonization principles!


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Nice !
I am on my way !

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I think I am starting to figure out the missing links in your musical vocabulary smile.gif take care of the tasks and hopefully I will have assumed things right and we'll jump the hurdle!

Looking forward to hear your thoughts after going through the circle related materials and the harmonization principles!

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Hello Cosmin,

Just a message to tell you that I am not dead! Sorry for disappearing.
I've been quite out of time this last month, and I needed a kind of break with practicing, and time to devote to other interest I have. I only play a bit of acoustic guitar from time to time.

I will come back soon to go back to the practicing!

See you later mate!

Arthur

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Nice !
I am on my way !

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Hey Arthur - I am here, man smile.gif Come back when you think you are ready to start things again smile.gif


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