Learn Music With Do Re Mi In Spain
Headbanger
Jun 24 2013, 01:30 PM
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Hey Matt.

My Kids are having to learn their music in Do Re Mi (In Spain) instead of C D E etc
I have found this really difficult to translate my knowledge to them...I have now found a way to transpose on the internet:

A = La
B = Si
C = Do
D = Re
E = Mi
F = Fa
G = Sol

To be honest its totally throwing me...but I am told that ABCDEFG is the least common and they will have to learn that do re mi system. I always thought it was just from the film 'The sound of Music'...but now I am finding out it is called Solfage. They called things Mi minor for E minor etc... I am sure you know.

Is it just me and my closed British mind? Or am I going mad? tongue.gif Is there nothing more than the transposition of name that I need to learn? laugh.gif

Tell me its not just me laugh.gif

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Jun 24 2013, 01:55 PM
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Yeah, this can get confusing. It depends on what country you are in, but a lot do use Solfege (Do Re Mi) rather than note names. In the US, they even use moveable Do which makes things very confusing, so every tonic is Do. This means that if you are in the key of C, C is Do. If you are in the key of D, D is Do. Always confused me.

It's tough at first, but once you get a handle on it it becomes easy. I learned in Uni to do it, studying in Montreal, and haven't forgotten it since.

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Jun 24 2013, 02:07 PM
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As you mentioned specally music training in classical music solfege is very important. I benefited from it a lot because not only you can read music just by looking at the notes (as much as possible, piano players are specially good at this). Its an excellent way to learn intervals.

In Turkey (with non-classical music training) a.b.c... is used as symbols like for written chords but we speak them as la, si, do...Keep in mind this do,re,mi...is also used in Berklee (at least when I was there for a course program in the near end of 90's) specially for solfege lessons.

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Jun 24 2013, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (The Professor @ Jun 24 2013, 02:55 PM) *
Yeah, this can get confusing. It depends on what country you are in, but a lot do use Solfege (Do Re Mi) rather than note names. In the US, they even use moveable Do which makes things very confusing, so every tonic is Do. This means that if you are in the key of C, C is Do. If you are in the key of D, D is Do. Always confused me.

It's tough at first, but once you get a handle on it it becomes easy. I learned in Uni to do it, studying in Montreal, and haven't forgotten it since.


I will just use the direct transposition of note names as I wrote above..The every tonic is a Do is going to be put into the back of my mind for now. laugh.gif I have to use the Spanish names for crotchets,quavers etc... Corchea, negra, blanca in addition to the solfege as my daughter doesn't want to use the quarter/half/eight naming system yet as they don't yet at school.
Thanks for replying...it seems wider spread than we initially assumed.

QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 24 2013, 03:07 PM) *
As you mentioned specally music training in classical music solfege is very important. I benefited from it a lot because not only you can read music just by looking at the notes (as much as possible, piano players are specially good at this). Its an excellent way to learn intervals.

In Turkey (with non-classical music training) a.b.c... is used as symbols like for written chords but we speak them as la, si, do...Keep in mind this do,re,mi...is also used in Berklee (at least when I was there for a course program in the near end of 90's) specially for solfege lessons.


Dude..You're right...its always good to learn different ways!

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Jun 24 2013, 02:58 PM
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Yeah, I can't get used to crotchets and quavers after moving to the UK. I still say 8th notes and 16ths etc. That to me is harder to get used to than Solfege.

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hahaha yeah! This is how I first learnt music here at Argentina, and it's the most used way in Music Schools. We refer to C saying DO, we use to write it but we always talk about Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La an Si. smile.gif

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I learned 'moveable' Do in school.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 25 2013, 07:31 PM) *
I learned 'moveable' Do in school.


Do you use moveable Do in your thinking or playing?

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Same for me mate. Just like yours my daughter has been taught here in Spain and so knows the 'do, ray, me' whereas I know the notes as the N European classical notation. So we often have a communication breakdown when she asks music theory type questions etc.

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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jun 26 2013, 01:54 AM) *
Do you use moveable Do in your thinking or playing?


Essentially yes - when I think that way.
Mostly I think (or say) the letter note name or if I don't know the key (or the key doesn't need to be specified) then I use numbers i.e., I ii iii vi ii V I etc.

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That's right, in Spain it's do re mi fa sol la si, we also find it weird the first time we learn about A B C D E F G, but it's only a matter of minutes, then you just know which is which, so no big deal cool.gif

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do a dear a female dear re a drop of golden sun me a name i call my self fa a long long way to run so a needle pulling thread la a note to follow so te a drink with jam and bread that will bring us back to do o o o laugh.gif

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An important clarification.
In the States, whether we learn 'movable' Do or just the note names we do not start with A.
It's CDEFGAB and/or do re mi fa so la ti - corresponding to a piano keyboard.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 28 2013, 03:37 AM) *
An important clarification.
In the States, whether we learn 'movable' Do or just the note names we do not start with A.
It's CDEFGAB and/or do re mi fa so la ti - corresponding to a piano keyboard.


I don't think anywhere starts with A...If you are referring to my earlier post...then my apologies...it was a copy and paste from somewhere on the internet. smile.gif

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I kind of came to the moveable solfege system when I got into ear training. I started with transcribing basslines and what I found great about the moveable system was the once I found "do", I could compare every other note back to it and figure out the progression just by listening. I feel like that is a drawback to the fixed Do system, which has C always as Do, because for every key you'll have a different set of solfege to work with, so I feel that the moveable Do system has more advantages.

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