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post Jul 23 2013, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Vulpine @ Jul 18 2013, 01:34 PM) *
appreciate the honesty, could u point out the times when my timing is off so I could try to work on it . and yea I am tryng to find a great rhythm rock/metal tone something like that Metal 90's tone mr "Darius wave" had in that lesson = ) tone was a killer


Sorry for the late reply, didn't realize you'd answered my post smile.gif
I will have another listen tomorrow (it's late and I need my beautysleep) and give you some pointers.
I might be able to help you with the rhythm tone.. What are you using?
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post Jul 24 2013, 03:47 PM
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Your solos/melodylines are actually more in sync (or in time if you will) than the rhythm guitar it sounds.
It sounds like the rhythm guitar is a tad late from beginning to end in my opinion.
However, I might be mistaken as well because of the loudness of the sologuitar. It drowns the rhythmguitar which makes it hard to listen properly. You should try to get a more balanced mix. The drums seems to have a few misplaced hits as well, which can also add to the confusion. This might actually lead me to believe it's "worse" than it really is.. I like the song, I just want you to work more on the details smile.gif
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post Jul 27 2013, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Jul 23 2013, 08:52 PM) *
Sorry for the late reply, didn't realize you'd answered my post smile.gif
I will have another listen tomorrow (it's late and I need my beautysleep) and give you some pointers.
I might be able to help you with the rhythm tone.. What are you using?


thanks, as far as my rhythm tone I think I was using my lead tone for the rhythm and I think that might of had too much gain or something like out of control distortion alittle

but Im using a ME-25 boss multi effect pedal for the tone ... and could use some help with building a good riffing heavy rock kind of tone like maybe a John petrucci or something = ) but any advice on getting that tone would help am not sure if i should take reverb out of my heavy rhythm tone

QUOTE (audiopaal @ Jul 24 2013, 02:47 PM) *
Your solos/melodylines are actually more in sync (or in time if you will) than the rhythm guitar it sounds.
It sounds like the rhythm guitar is a tad late from beginning to end in my opinion.
However, I might be mistaken as well because of the loudness of the sologuitar. It drowns the rhythmguitar which makes it hard to listen properly. You should try to get a more balanced mix. The drums seems to have a few misplaced hits as well, which can also add to the confusion. This might actually lead me to believe it's "worse" than it really is.. I like the song, I just want you to work more on the details smile.gif


The Rhythm section!!! .... that is what I've been told by a few of my friends they said I was a "Hair" off "To an untrained ear you wouldnt notice" but someone with a trained ear can hear it. see before I was told "work on the timing" but I didnt know exactly where the problem was and I now know what Gabe ment when he said " Vulpine Your music SUCKS!!!*

IM KIDDING!! he didnt say that .... but he did say that my timing was ruining my music" so I think if anything I should really get my rhythm timing down first........ I've worked on my lead timing alot but my rhythm I havent worked on *enough*

so I've been working on my rhythm timing playing to a metronome this week and hope to see results soon

Am also working on a song is not finished yet ... have to go back and do a section over because the rhythm was a "Tad" off lol so anyway hope you will drop by again when its done
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post Jul 27 2013, 05:10 AM
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Well, if you were going for free jazz/metal, you nailed it. But if you were actually trying to play "in time" it's quite a bit more than a "Tad" out of synch/beat, sadly. sad.gif The good news is this is simple to fix with some metronome practice.

Can't wait to hear your improved version:) Record a bit of your rythm track against drums without lead so we can hear any unintended timing drift. Always try to count, 1,2, 3, 4, so you can lock to the backing and play on beat, when intending smile.gif

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post Jul 27 2013, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE (Vulpine @ Jul 26 2013, 11:52 PM) *
thanks, as far as my rhythm tone I think I was using my lead tone for the rhythm and I think that might of had too much gain or something like out of control distortion alittle

but Im using a ME-25 boss multi effect pedal for the tone ... and could use some help with building a good riffing heavy rock kind of tone like maybe a John petrucci or something = ) but any advice on getting that tone would help am not sure if i should take reverb out of my heavy rhythm tone



The Rhythm section!!! .... that is what I've been told by a few of my friends they said I was a "Hair" off "To an untrained ear you wouldnt notice" but someone with a trained ear can hear it. see before I was told "work on the timing" but I didnt know exactly where the problem was and I now know what Gabe ment when he said " Vulpine Your music SUCKS!!!*

IM KIDDING!! he didnt say that .... but he did say that my timing was ruining my music" so I think if anything I should really get my rhythm timing down first........ I've worked on my lead timing alot but my rhythm I havent worked on *enough*

so I've been working on my rhythm timing playing to a metronome this week and hope to see results soon

Am also working on a song is not finished yet ... have to go back and do a section over because the rhythm was a "Tad" off lol so anyway hope you will drop by again when its done


Hey man smile.gif Speaking of all this, how is practicing going along? Have you tried the exercise I suggested in the little video in your thread?


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post Jul 27 2013, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Vulpine @ Jul 27 2013, 01:52 AM) *
thanks, as far as my rhythm tone I think I was using my lead tone for the rhythm and I think that might of had too much gain or something like out of control distortion alittle

but Im using a ME-25 boss multi effect pedal for the tone ... and could use some help with building a good riffing heavy rock kind of tone like maybe a John petrucci or something = ) but any advice on getting that tone would help am not sure if i should take reverb out of my heavy rhythm tone

The Rhythm section!!! .... that is what I've been told by a few of my friends they said I was a "Hair" off "To an untrained ear you wouldnt notice" but someone with a trained ear can hear it. see before I was told "work on the timing" but I didnt know exactly where the problem was and I now know what Gabe ment when he said " Vulpine Your music SUCKS!!!*

IM KIDDING!! he didnt say that .... but he did say that my timing was ruining my music" so I think if anything I should really get my rhythm timing down first........ I've worked on my lead timing alot but my rhythm I havent worked on *enough*

so I've been working on my rhythm timing playing to a metronome this week and hope to see results soon

Am also working on a song is not finished yet ... have to go back and do a section over because the rhythm was a "Tad" off lol so anyway hope you will drop by again when its done


It's better to back off the distortion a little and double track (or even quad track, if you play REALLY tight) the guitars for a fuller sound. I'm not familiar with the ME-25, but I can look into it a little and see if I can help you smile.gif
If you use reverb for your rhythm, be sure to use very little when playing riff based rock. If not it might get muddy.
Leaving a tad of reverb on the tracks can sometimes be good though smile.gif

Haha, we never said your music sucked. But you need to tighten up your rhythm playing.
And practicing with a metronome is the best way to do that, so I'm glad that's what you're doing smile.gif

Cool, of course I'll drop by again, looking forward to it mate smile.gif

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post Jul 28 2013, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 27 2013, 06:42 AM) *
Hey man smile.gif Speaking of all this, how is practicing going along? Have you tried the exercise I suggested in the little video in your thread?


Hey Cosmin well I am still practicing with a metronome as we talked about I am also getting ready to practice with the metronome here tonight before I go back into finishing this track im working on

Ill be honest playing in sync rhythm is still kind of tricky for me sometimes especially when messing with powerchords one thing that i feel might be helpful is putting accents on the on beat

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 27 2013, 04:10 AM) *
Well, if you were going for free jazz/metal, you nailed it. But if you were actually trying to play "in time" it's quite a bit more than a "Tad" out of synch/beat, sadly. sad.gif The good news is this is simple to fix with some metronome practice.

Can't wait to hear your improved version:) Record a bit of your rythm track against drums without lead so we can hear any unintended timing drift. Always try to count, 1,2, 3, 4, so you can lock to the backing and play on beat, when intending smile.gif



yea I am going to redo the rhythm part of this n try to get it in better sync n also try to balance the mix maybe just need to lower the lead volume

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post Jul 28 2013, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Vulpine @ Jul 28 2013, 01:00 AM) *
Hey Cosmin well I am still practicing with a metronome as we talked about I am also getting ready to practice with the metronome here tonight before I go back into finishing this track im working on

Ill be honest playing in sync rhythm is still kind of tricky for me sometimes especially when messing with powerchords one thing that i feel might be helpful is putting accents on the on beat


I am glad if that exercise has already found it's effectively applied purpose in your routine! Can't wait to see a video with the exercise and with the application that you found for it biggrin.gif


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post Jul 31 2013, 05:27 AM
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Don't forget to "Count Time". I"ve had students that simply didn't count time and as a result had really trouble playing "on beat".Eventually, it will just happen by itself, till then you gotta count it smile.gif


QUOTE (Vulpine @ Jul 27 2013, 09:00 PM) *
Hey Cosmin well I am still practicing with a metronome as we talked about I am also getting ready to practice with the metronome here tonight before I go back into finishing this track im working on

Ill be honest playing in sync rhythm is still kind of tricky for me sometimes especially when messing with powerchords one thing that i feel might be helpful is putting accents on the on beat




yea I am going to redo the rhythm part of this n try to get it in better sync n also try to balance the mix maybe just need to lower the lead volume



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