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Cosmin Lupu
post Aug 17 2013, 03:01 PM
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I caught myself nodding my head in this way one too many times biggrin.gif

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Taka Perry
post Aug 17 2013, 03:25 PM
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Haha, yeah man, me too. For me, Tool and Dream Theater come straight into my mind wink.gif


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post Aug 17 2013, 03:52 PM
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Thought of tool, too. But meshuggah came straight into my mind biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 06:23 PM
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hahahah listening to Mars Volta or Tool. biggrin.gif


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post Aug 18 2013, 08:01 AM
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Or maybe some Rush? biggrin.gif


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post Aug 18 2013, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 18 2013, 05:01 PM) *
Or maybe some Rush? biggrin.gif


Oh man, Rush is amazing. Alex Lifeson is such an underrated guitarist in my opinion ohmy.gif


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post Aug 18 2013, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (http://www.reddit.com/user/brutishbloodgod)
Time signatures are primarily a matter of notational convention--you could take any given piece, notate it in any time signature you want, and it would just be more or less easy to read. In concert music, especially more recent stuff, time signatures often don't tell you much about the rhythmic feel of the piece; some modern composers dispense with them entirely, barring the music based on logical groupings and ease of reading.

When music has more strict and consistent rhythmic patterns, as with rock, what matters for purposes of rhythmic analysis are pulse and grouping. Pulse is exactly what it sounds like; it's what you tap your foot to or dance along with. Listen to some "easier" rock music and count along with the pulse. Notice that the music is structured into repeating patterns (you already know that that's what the time signature describes, but we're trying to get you to listen into it rather than think into it). Figure out the most appropriate number of counts based on how often the music repeats. 90% of the time it's going to be 4, 3, 6, or 2, so you can start with those and see if they fit. Obviously different parts of the music repeat at different rates--the drummer might be hitting the hi-hat every eighth note but the melody might be 16 "pulses" long.
Now notice how the pulse itself is subdivided. That's where grouping comes into play. The hi-hat is usually good to listen to because it's often played at 2x or 4x the rate of the pulse, so you can hear each pulse divided into groups of 2 or 4. Or you might hear music with a pulse pattern of 2 with each pulse divided into 3 (which would usually be notated as the time signature 6/8).
In more rhythmically complex music, rhythms can always be broken down into 2's, 3's, and 4's, and usually just 2's and 3's. So a grouping of 7 might be 3-2-2 or 2-3-2 or 4-3 or whatever combination adds up to seven, and the "pulse" (not strictly a pulse anymore because it's not even) is on the first note of each group. Mars Volta is known to divide 29 into 4-3-2-4-3-3-2-4-4.


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post Aug 19 2013, 08:00 AM
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Cool explanation and video mate!

Let's all post songs with interesting pulses - I got one for you:



This is performed by a supegroup composed of my first guitar teacher - the guy with the K7 guitar (which later one became mine) Romania's most famous drummer - Ovidiu Lipan (he plays the darbouka in this video) and his best student Ionut 'John' Micu, who's actually doing the drumming in this video.

The pulse here is 123 1 2 1 2 (based on a 7/8 time signature)


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