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Gabriel Leopardi
post Sep 4 2013, 10:11 PM
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Hey guys!

We all know that when you dedicate to music, the learning process is infinite. There is always something new to learn, a new technique, a new style, a new scale, chord, etc. The main goal is always creating music so the question today are:

Are you happy with your compositions?

What do you think your music is lacking?

What composers do you admire and why?


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post Sep 4 2013, 10:12 PM
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1. Yes, i Am. They manage to KILL and ERASE FALSE METAL !!!

2. Lacking succes! (commercial one , i can't make money with them yet mad.gif )

3. Pagannini, Jon Oliva, King diamond. (they're all Kings, IMAO , except Pagannini, i don't listen much to him, but i guess it's cool and trendy to put some Classical music composers as an influence to get out of the "clichee" dry.gif )

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post Sep 4 2013, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 4 2013, 06:12 PM) *
1. Yes, i Am. They manage to KILL and ERASE FALSE METAL !!!

2. Lacking succes! (commercial one , i can't make money with them yet mad.gif )

3. Pagannini, Jon Oliva, King diamond. (they're all Kings, IMAO)



hahaha fantastic answers Slavenko. smile.gif


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post Sep 5 2013, 07:29 AM
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I'm happy with my composition but I'm not happy when I must cut some parts where I can't play some technical stuff.

I want my music to be more complex.

Strauss and Francis Lopez - for melodicity
David Lynch - for his "diabolic" mind and his style of music with weirdness, psychedelic and scary, all of these blended very musical
Andy Timmons - perfect songs for my taste
And of course as you already know - Darek Wawrzyniak and Yiannis Papadopoulos biggrin.gif




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post Sep 5 2013, 07:52 AM
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I'm happy with my compositions in general but most often when I'm just true to myself and writing with the purpose and love for music. In other situations I tend to feel cramped and dishonest, mainly because people hear music they think of different stylistic approaches and clichées. I hate writing stuff that sounds cliché so I always start exploring other grounds instead (like atonality, polyrhythms, polymetrics, mathematical concepts, and anything else I can think of WITHOUT experimentation). If I experiment I just write studies or etudes, I never experiment when I write "real" stuff.

My music generally lacks variations, I may write down a 4 minute song but in the end I've lost more than double that due to bad memory and that I couldn't write it down when I heard it. This gets better and better as I learn to more quickly write down and connect my ear with the notes, in the end I hope that I can write as quickly as I can improvise in my head to capture the full "idea" of a song.

I admire composers that thread new ground and sound like themselves. To name a couple: Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, Bela Bartok, Maurice Ravel, Shostakovich, Saint-saens, Phillip Glass, John Cage, Alexander Scriabin, Virgil Donati, Allan Holdsworth, Ben Monder, Julian Lage, Rudolf Schmitt, Dave "TechDiff" Forrester, Frank Gambale, John Coltrane, Billy Cobham, John McLaughlin, Marcelo Berestovoy, Francisco Tárrega, Rodrigo, Eugène Ysaÿe, Pablo de Sarasate, Gustav Mahler, Scarlatti, Chick Corea, John Scofield, Chris Arp, Nicolo Paganini, Vivaldi, Verdi, Puccini, Franz Liszt, Chopin, Debussy... and so on

I have a hard time with normal music or modern music which doesn't seem to lend itself to the type of expressive musicality which I want to hear and create in my own music. Everything has it's place tho and I can certainly enjoy a bit of "simpler" types of music at times, but it's not what my heart aches for.


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post Sep 5 2013, 08:47 AM
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Vince - you sound like a classical music aficionado! Awesome to hear you are probably a great connoisseur of classical composers and their work!

For me... at THIS particular point in time:

Are you happy with your compositions?

I haven't written new music in a while, but since the Days of Confusion new album is slowly starting to come into our attention, I will gather my ideas and begin smile.gif I sometimes don't feel too happy with not having that certain catchiness in some lines, but it always gets there somehow.

What do you think your music is lacking?

Hmmm, as long as I am able to transmit my message, I think that it doesn't lack anything. I usually look at people's reactions and if I manage to get my point across, the music is fine because it serves its purpose smile.gif

What composers do you admire and why?

Hard one... for me, each composition that strikes a sensible emotion of any kind, in me, is a good composition. Each day when I discover a new piece of music that touches my soul, the person responsible for writing that piece of music, turns into an inspiration, even if it's only for a song or only for that particular moment in time smile.gif


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post Sep 5 2013, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Sep 5 2013, 08:29 AM) *
I'm happy with my composition but I'm not happy when I must


David Lynch - for his "diabolic" mind and his style of music with weirdness, psychedelic and scary, all of these blended very musical


Are you reffering to David Lynch, a film director?

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post Sep 5 2013, 09:24 AM
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I really admire bands with long, almost symphonic compositions like Yes and Godspeed You! Black Emperor smile.gif I think they take their song writing an extra step and provoke emotions which otherwise are hard to recreate.


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post Sep 5 2013, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2013, 08:04 AM) *
Are you reffering to David Lynch, a film director?


Yes, that David Lynch.
But he is also musician and composer. He released two albums. One was made in 2011 and the second album was released on July 2013 .
And also he worked with Angelo Badalamenti for music from Twin Peaks movie.
If you want to listen something that I love it, this is my favorite song on his last album " The big dream" smile.gif






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post Sep 5 2013, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Sep 5 2013, 08:35 AM) *
Yes, that David Lynch.
But he is also musician and composer. He released two albums. One was made in 2011 and the second album was released on July 2013 .
And also he worked with Angelo Badalamenti for music from Twin Peaks movie.
If you want to listen something that I love it, this is my favorite song on his last album " The big dream" smile.gif


Sounds quite a bit like Portishead and Halou. Thanks for sharing.


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The most common problem I notice (even when listening professional guitarists) is that usually the composition struggles to create a musical forum in itself.

Its like; one has something wonderful to say and knows the language but all the punctuation is missing or misused.

Personally I find this key element (specially today) to determine whether a composition will be successful (as in artistic or production values) or not.


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post Sep 5 2013, 12:42 PM
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THE RIFF is THE MOST IMPORTANT IN COMPOSITION. ALL TODAY's GUITAR "VIRTUOSOS" CAN SHRED OR HARASS GUITAR With some BUBLEGUM PHRASES FOR AN HALF AN HOUR , but if he's missing the Music HOLY GRAIL, The essence of composition - THE RIFF , all his Bublegum playing SUDDENLY falls in water...

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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2013, 11:42 AM) *
THE RIFF is THE MOST IMPORTANT IN COMPOSITION. ALL TODAY's GUITAR "VIRTUOSOS" CAN SHRED OR HARASS GUITAR With some BUBLEGUM PHRASES FOR AN HALF AN HOUR , but if he's missing the Music HOLY GRAIL, The essence of composition - THE RIFF , all his Bublegum playing SUDDENLY falls in water...

You're funny my friend.


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post Sep 5 2013, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (verciazghra @ Sep 5 2013, 01:54 PM) *
You're funny my friend.


I was dead serious. Thank You.
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2013, 01:42 PM) *
THE RIFF is THE MOST IMPORTANT IN COMPOSITION. ALL TODAY's GUITAR "VIRTUOSOS" CAN SHRED OR HARASS GUITAR With some BUBLEGUM PHRASES FOR AN HALF AN HOUR , but if he's missing the Music HOLY GRAIL, The essence of composition - THE RIFF , all his Bublegum playing SUDDENLY falls in water...


I think it sort of depends on the style of the music. For pop music it's catchy lyrics and vocal melodies, and then you have genres that benefit from nice melodies and harmonies. Classical music wouldn't be the same without some of the harmonies and so on. In more heavy genres a nice bone breaking riff is nice for sure though and in thrash metal it's probably one of the building blocks. But there are plenty of good songs that don't as such have riffs in them.

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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 5 2013, 02:35 PM) *
. But there are plenty of good sings that don't as such have riffs in them.


YEAH, which ones? Offcourse i was regarding to Rock music in general, not some shitty pop, or disco.

There aren't any. If u can't make a good riff on guitar, then better save your time and turn yourself to other occupation than playing guitar.

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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2013, 02:38 PM) *
YEAH, which ones? Offcourse i was regarding to Rock music in general, not some shitty pop, or disco.

There aren't any. If u can't make a good riff on guitar, then better save your time and turn yourself to other occupation than playing guitar.


Here's a couple from different genres that don't have smashing guitar riffs:









To name a few more well known pieces. Of course there are many great songs with great riffs as well.



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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Sep 5 2013, 05:35 AM) *
Yes, that David Lynch.
But he is also musician and composer. He released two albums. One was made in 2011 and the second album was released on July 2013 .
And also he worked with Angelo Badalamenti for music from Twin Peaks movie.
If you want to listen something that I love it, this is my favorite song on his last album " The big dream" smile.gif




David Lynch is an awesome artist, I'm sure that you've read his book about how meditation helped him to be more creative and productive.


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  1. Yes
  2. Vocals and lyrics.
  3. There are a lot of composers that I admire but in the same style that I'm composing, my favorite is: Steven Wilson.


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QUOTE (coffeeman @ Sep 5 2013, 10:20 AM) *
  1. Yes
  2. Vocals and lyrics.
  3. There are a lot of composers that I admire but in the same style that I'm composing, my favorite is: Steven Wilson.


He is so talented! I love his compositions and projects.


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