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Caelumamittendum
post Sep 8 2013, 11:00 PM
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So eMGie inspired me to just share this.

Back in April I had an idea for writing some orchestral stuff based on Dante's Divine Comedy, this first part being "about" when he "wakes up" in the dark forrest, before he attempts to wander up the mountain (which was supposed to be the next piece).

Imagine the dark trees surrounding him, unknown creatures sturring, uncanny winds in the trees etc.

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/death-is-little-more

I might go back to this project some time in the future, who knows. Let me know what you think though. It is best heard in stereo (I can't recommend listening on a laptop)

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post Sep 11 2013, 05:49 PM
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Very nice piece, there's a lot of potential for a masterpiece here, in my opinion. Your motifs and ideas are very clear. Yet somehow I feel they're lacking instability in it's dynamics, WHICH IS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE! I tend to over-dramatize my own compositions with expression markings everywhere and have really abrupt and short sounding phrases. As a result of that my orchestral stuff usually sounds uneasy and weary, which(when hearing this piece) I really thought may be fitting. There's some really nice contrast here which I would like to bring out further, like when the flute melody is echo'd close to the middle.

It reminds me a lot of the darker sides of stravinsky or mahler. Very nicely done.

One last thought is that with all these lovely themes introduced, you have a lot of material that could stem from it and make the story "complete". You've introduced motifs that would be very useful for a continued part.


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post Sep 11 2013, 05:54 PM
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Wou! I really like your composition man. I can feel on a movie while I listen to it. The only thing that I didn't like is that the pan of the instruments in the mix. I think that you should pan 100% left and 100% right, or maybe add an stereo camera that made the listened feel that the orquesta in in a same place. I have just that comment. Keep on working on this style of music!


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post Sep 11 2013, 11:11 PM
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Epic thing my friend smile.gif Now try to imagine You control a real orchestra playing Your arrangment - that would be so awesome smile.gif


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post Sep 11 2013, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (verciazghra @ Sep 11 2013, 06:49 PM) *
Very nice piece, there's a lot of potential for a masterpiece here, in my opinion. Your motifs and ideas are very clear. Yet somehow I feel they're lacking instability in it's dynamics, WHICH IS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE! I tend to over-dramatize my own compositions with expression markings everywhere and have really abrupt and short sounding phrases. As a result of that my orchestral stuff usually sounds uneasy and weary, which(when hearing this piece) I really thought may be fitting. There's some really nice contrast here which I would like to bring out further, like when the flute melody is echo'd close to the middle.

It reminds me a lot of the darker sides of stravinsky or mahler. Very nicely done.

One last thought is that with all these lovely themes introduced, you have a lot of material that could stem from it and make the story "complete". You've introduced motifs that would be very useful for a continued part.


Thanks for the comments, Verc. I like that kind of "critique". I will remember this for the future for sure if I decide to work more in this genre. As I mentioned on the chat one day, it was supposed to be a mix of classical and djent cool.gif

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Sep 12 2013, 12:11 AM) *
Epic thing my friend smile.gif Now try to imagine You control a real orchestra playing Your arrangment - that would be so awesome smile.gif


I haven't composed anything since, and before this I had never really made anything classical. Or composed anything for 3-4 years or so. As mentioned above it was supposed to be a mix of djent and classical and maybe more genres as well. Perhaps I'll start thinking about it again.

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Wou! I really like your composition man. I can feel on a movie while I listen to it. The only thing that I didn't like is that the pan of the instruments in the mix. I think that you should pan 100% left and 100% right, or maybe add an stereo camera that made the listened feel that the orquesta in in a same place. I have just that comment. Keep on working on this style of music!


Thanks for the comment, Gab!

I'm not sure what you mean with the panning. I think some of the instruments are panned all the way to left and right side. Maybe I didn't pan 100%. Will have a look tomorrow smile.gif



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post Sep 12 2013, 09:40 AM
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Dude... two things:

- this is so good, that I wouldn't listen to it at night if I was home alone - which I am most of the time laugh.gif
- you should MOST DEFINITELY continue working on a lengthier composition based on Dante's opera smile.gif It provides real inspiration for certain!


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post Sep 12 2013, 11:01 AM
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This is awesome man, I think you develop this idea into a big orchestral suite kind of thing smile.gif I can see this being in a soundtrack for a movie or game smile.gif

Just a question: What sounds are you using in this? Are they a virtual instrument?


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post Sep 12 2013, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 12 2013, 10:40 AM) *
Dude... two things:

- this is so good, that I wouldn't listen to it at night if I was home alone - which I am most of the time laugh.gif
- you should MOST DEFINITELY continue working on a lengthier composition based on Dante's opera smile.gif It provides real inspiration for certain!


Thanks, Cosmin! Means a lot!

I want to develop it further at some point for sure. But as said, weird as it sounds, I kinda want to bring some prog rock/djent into it as well laugh.gif

QUOTE (Taka Perry @ Sep 12 2013, 12:01 PM) *
This is awesome man, I think you develop this idea into a big orchestral suite kind of thing smile.gif I can see this being in a soundtrack for a movie or game smile.gif

Just a question: What sounds are you using in this? Are they a virtual instrument?


Thank you, Taka!

It's virtual instruments, yes. East West Symphonic Orchestra. smile.gif


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post Sep 13 2013, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 12 2013, 10:08 AM) *
Thanks, Cosmin! Means a lot!

I want to develop it further at some point for sure. But as said, weird as it sounds, I kinda want to bring some prog rock/djent into it as well laugh.gif


Mate - it depends on what will happen later in the tune - as of right now, this orchestral atmosphere would be spoiled by djenty/ rockish stuff - my 2 cents, of course biggrin.gif


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post Sep 13 2013, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 13 2013, 09:03 AM) *
Mate - it depends on what will happen later in the tune - as of right now, this orchestral atmosphere would be spoiled by djenty/ rockish stuff - my 2 cents, of course biggrin.gif


Yeah, I know what you mean. I just can't see myself sticking to the orchestral type of thing. Well, I might, but then I might also make a non-orchestral or mixed version. We'll see...

Back in April when I made this, this was my idea for what was to come next. This was just a quickfire 5 minute idea before I forgot all about the project:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7885159...0Difficulty.mp3


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post Sep 13 2013, 07:44 PM
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It feels amazing to inspire someone to do something! biggrin.gif

I really like it. It's really creepy, and I in fact really thrilled when the cymbals kicked in biggrin.gif

Your description / or introduction (i mean the part you wrote about Dante etc) fits very well with the atmosphere of this piece. smile.gif

I'm curious what is going to happen next. :>


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post Sep 13 2013, 11:13 PM
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Man, this is beautiful ( neglect the mixing) ! This reminds me of some of my projects, still unfinished ... Wait a bit to try to find some of..


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post Sep 14 2013, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 13 2013, 02:08 PM) *
Yeah, I know what you mean. I just can't see myself sticking to the orchestral type of thing. Well, I might, but then I might also make a non-orchestral or mixed version. We'll see...

Back in April when I made this, this was my idea for what was to come next. This was just a quickfire 5 minute idea before I forgot all about the project:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7885159...0Difficulty.mp3


Hehe - I also like the idea of making various renditions based on different orchestration styles. It is a totally different thing biggrin.gif Diversity is very important but, also, finishing things is important as well. People tend to react well when they see a finished product, so I encourage you to finish the orchestral parts of the whole story and publish them! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 14 2013, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 14 2013, 06:16 PM) *
Hehe - I also like the idea of making various renditions based on different orchestration styles. It is a totally different thing biggrin.gif Diversity is very important but, also, finishing things is important as well. People tend to react well when they see a finished product, so I encourage you to finish the orchestral parts of the whole story and publish them! biggrin.gif


Yeah, that may be the way to go. We shall see. Did you listen to the second link? It might give you an idea about what I was thinking about moving into, though it was just made very quickly.


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post Sep 15 2013, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Sep 14 2013, 12:13 AM) *
Man, this is beautiful ( neglect the mixing) ! This reminds me of some of my projects, still unfinished ... Wait a bit to try to find some of..


Totally missed this. Thanks, Sinisa. I have no experience with mixing, so I didn't really do any laugh.gif

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It feels amazing to inspire someone to do something! biggrin.gif

I really like it. It's really creepy, and I in fact really thrilled when the cymbals kicked in biggrin.gif

Your description / or introduction (i mean the part you wrote about Dante etc) fits very well with the atmosphere of this piece. smile.gif

I'm curious what is going to happen next. :>


Next will be Dante trying to climb up a mountain side towards the sun, out of the forest, where he meets three animals, a lion, a leopard and a she-wolf that forces him back into the dark forest. smile.gif


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post Sep 15 2013, 12:58 PM
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Compositionally I liked it and it rather reminded me of Lutoslowski meets Starvinsky (if you can imagine that).

Mix wise it's ok but there are a few things to think about. I think the actual balance of some of the instruments was a little odd and resulted in some being quite some way in the background, and vice versa where you'd normally expect them as more foreward in a morec onventional orchestra. I also felt that some parts needed more articulation and individual dynamics. It also felt that a few had a different reverb then others, which for me was a little strange.

Can't be sure though as this was streamed on a laptop and I wasn't paying close attention.

(FWIW the mastering setup isn't on the internet and so we don't play streamed and compressed audio on it.)


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Ok,I found one of my "orchestral" projects, inspired of course by EPiC movies smile.gif

Listen LOUD laugh.gif !

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post Sep 15 2013, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 14 2013, 05:24 PM) *
Yeah, that may be the way to go. We shall see. Did you listen to the second link? It might give you an idea about what I was thinking about moving into, though it was just made very quickly.


Hey mate - it was just one link smile.gif Might be you missed to add the second one?


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post Sep 15 2013, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 15 2013, 07:20 PM) *
Hey mate - it was just one link smile.gif Might be you missed to add the second one?


It should be there in my reply later on, but here we are again laugh.gif

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7885159...0Difficulty.mp3


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post Sep 15 2013, 09:13 PM
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Oh, this one - I listened to it already, I thought you were talking about another one smile.gif It sounds cool, but I totally love that orchestral one biggrin.gif


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