Guitar Software/modeling With The Best Clean Sound |
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Oct 8 2013, 08:27 PM
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Hey guys!
I'm curious to know what is the best solution for getting a good clean guitar sound recording via DI and using software (Guitar Rig, Amplitube etc) only? I have used Amplitube 3 but I'm not really happy with the tones I'm getting. Somehow they are not clear enough and sound a bit digital. Any software/signal paths so suggest? -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Oct 8 2013, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Oct 8 2013, 10:36 PM)  We also have a problem of "good clean tone" definition. Warm, lots of low mids, more jazz like or very bright, funky-like, strat tone? Yes, I should have used the word "natural sounding" as opposed to digital sounding if that makes sense. Something that gets as close to real amp and mic setup as possible (considering the limitations of software "approach" of course). Thanks for the tip about compressor positioning, I'll experiment with that. QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 8 2013, 10:42 PM) Very good point! The compressor is key on clean tones. I"d say try the clean amp head in Scuffham Amps S-gear and use some of the clean presets. Unlike some sims, the presets are pretty good for a starting point. I HATED the presets in amplitude and guitar rig  Had to build my own  Todd Never got a chance to use that one, I'll give it a go! This topic is very interesting to me as usually we debate about the distortion or hi gain sounds using software modelling but we rarely speak about the clean electric guitar sound. -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Oct 9 2013, 11:24 AM
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Amplitube amps require a certain gain to sound its best because they are (sort of) sampled in a certain gain setting. Using the input-output knob is very important like sometimes increasing the input but lowering the gain really helps for a smoother sound.
Once thats done also try these amps with different cab. ir's with a different plug-in. Many hates amplitube cab.s. Besides amplitube also try kuassa vermilion, these 2 are my go to clean sounding amp sims. http://www.kuassa.com/products/amplifikation-vermilion This post has been edited by Mertay: Oct 9 2013, 11:26 AM |
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Oct 10 2013, 07:32 PM
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Thanks, this discussion is very interesting and useful to me! I never used software other than Guitar Rig, Amplitube and Gearbox. Looks like there are other solutions out there and that it is possible to use some add-on cabinet impulses?
Something completely new to me, hope to learn more about it. I think software modelling is the future of home recording so it is very important for every musician to get familiar with it as much as possible.
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Oct 10 2013, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Oct 10 2013, 06:32 PM) Thanks, this discussion is very interesting and useful to me! I never used software other than Guitar Rig, Amplitube and Gearbox. Looks like there are other solutions out there and that it is possible to use some add-on cabinet impulses? Something completely new to me, hope to learn more about it. I think software modelling is the future of home recording so it is very important for every musician to get familiar with it as much as possible.Sure I guess the most famous cab. ir loader is the free lecab;http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/ Simply disable the cab on amplitube (or guitar rig), insert this as after amplitube and load an ir inside. Its ok to insert another plug-in after it if needed like reverb, think just like the real guitar chain but after the cab its like stage chain. Cab. impulses though are sooooo many when you search the internet. I don't use cab ir.s anymore but I'm sure friends here will give great advice. Don't rush to try stuff cause there are so many but later you can try the free amps at the blog I gave link, there are some nice free stuff there
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Oct 12 2013, 09:03 PM
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Great point
I use an interface/soundcard that is also a full on mixer so I get to EQ the signal as it goes in and I have a fader on each channel and a Mic trim. Also, I'm passing through an Active Direct Box that can punch in 20 db of gain if needed.This way I can push the input as hard or soft as needed for a given sim. I use amp sims a TON so I've gotten very used to finding that "Sweet Spot" on each one. Typically when I find folks are not getting the sounds they want it's due to using an interface/setup that has limited input gain/eq controls. I wish more interfaces were based on mixers but that seems to jack up the price. Here is a pic of mine which is now discontinued so I WOULD NOT suggest anyone buy one at this point.  The best interface for the price/features for the home studio musicians IMHO that I've seen currently is the PRESONUS 16.0.2. But they are NOT CHEAP!!! $1,200!!!!! But they do have 16 inputs with full control and signal manipulation for each channel. http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2  Using an interface with for example one gain knob, makes it VERY much more involved to find that "sweet spot" and make the sim sound it's best. QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 10 2013, 01:39 PM) I guess the thing that creates confusion is (although this some-what depends on the tech the plug-in uses) plug-ins can have a sweetspot while real amps don't Finding a sweetspot is very studio discipline thing. Its actually more about the hardware/software rather than sound and although the amp plug-ins aim is the sound, it internally functions like a studio recording tool. |
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