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Unleech
post Oct 28 2013, 02:03 PM
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Hello guys,

I would be happy to have your feedback, your advice/criticize on the last composition I've just made this week end.
It is a kind of a jazzy/dark/weird ballad. I can't give you a style, as it is an original output of my weird harmonical brain. It is the first song I compose that is not metalish.

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Attached File  solo_1113_5_1_.mp3 ( 9.27MB ) Number of downloads: 107


I would appreciate all kind of criticize, especially on the structure of the song. Feel free to tell what you think, that's what I am looking for!

See you guys. Thanks in advance!

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post Oct 28 2013, 02:06 PM
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that is awesome, I love the style and atmosphere. Well done mate.


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post Oct 28 2013, 02:57 PM
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I love this dark mood!!! I like all song but the part that start at 1:14 sounds really cool smile.gif



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post Oct 28 2013, 03:20 PM
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Hi Arthur! This is a very cool track. I like the overall atmosphere that it creates, it sounds like a soundtrack. The only thing that I can say is that the song could have a more explosive sections, or if that's not the idea that it could be shorter. It's a bit repetitive in some moments.
Besides that, everything is great! Well done!


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post Oct 28 2013, 03:23 PM
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Very mic song, I liked the ambient and dark mood of the song. Is it instrumental or are you going to add vocals, I imagined a couple of singing melodies while I was listening.


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post Oct 28 2013, 03:42 PM
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Great work! I enjoy listening to it with "replay all over again" option smile.gif As for the composition it feels great as a very tasty soundtrack - perfect for "28 days later" movie smile.gif Only thing that personally made me a bit less flavour is over compressed clean guitar. But...that's very subjective...it might have sense for You and doesn't appear to be any clear mistake smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2013, 04:02 PM
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Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it a lot!
Yeah, it is really dark, weird, and atmospherical, I like that kind of mood and ambiance. I may be weird too for composing such things, but I am ok with that ahah biggrin.gif.


coffeeman,
In fact, all what I compose is instrumental because I just don't know any singer. Besides, it allow me to have the whole space for multi guitar/synth, which I like a lot.
But I would like to start composing with a singer sometime.
But not for this one I think!

Gabriel Leopardi,
I think you are right, that is also my feel. I feel that there is a bit too much repetitivity, and I need to place some riff in between repetitive riffs.
I am not really used to composing short songs, so I think that I will try and incorporate some explosive parts, as you say. Maybe slow and loud distorted rythmic, to add some brutality smile.gif
I will try and do that!
If you have specific ideas in mind, tell me more!

Darius,
In fact, it is only a draft, and I didn't took care of the recording settings or the mix. The clean guitar is indeed very compressed, but I will change that I think.
Usually, I compose and record at the same time, modifying, implementing new parts, and when I am done with the song, I record it entirely, cleanly and mix it.
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post Oct 28 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Unleech @ Oct 28 2013, 12:02 PM) *
Gabriel Leopardi,
I think you are right, that is also my feel. I feel that there is a bit too much repetitivity, and I need to place some riff in between repetitive riffs.
I am not really used to composing short songs, so I think that I will try and incorporate some explosive parts, as you say. Maybe slow and loud distorted rythmic, to add some brutality smile.gif
I will try and do that!
If you have specific ideas in mind, tell me more!



yeah, that was exactly what I meant. I'm not sure who, (I think that gitarrero) posted this band at the site and I think that it's a good example of how you can make explode a post-rock song:



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post Oct 28 2013, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 28 2013, 10:19 AM) *
yeah, that was exactly what I meant. I'm not sure who, (I think that gitarrero) posted this band at the site and I think that it's a good example of how you can make explode a post-rock song:



I posted it Gab. Yes when I heard your song it reminded me a lot to Frames.


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post Oct 28 2013, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (coffeeman @ Oct 28 2013, 12:24 PM) *
I posted it Gab. Yes when I heard your song it reminded me a lot to Frames.


Ah! you were the one that made me love this band! biggrin.gif



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post Oct 28 2013, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 28 2013, 05:29 PM) *
Ah! you were the one that made me love this band! biggrin.gif


Oh, seeing your link, I knew I would like it before listening.
Indeed I love it ! This is awesome.
I am gonna listen to it and see if I can immerse myself in that style.




By the way, I don't know any post-rock band like that. But obviously, I love it. I would appreciate if you could advice me some more, with this kind of mood/atmosphere ! laugh.gif

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post Oct 29 2013, 06:58 AM
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Really nice fluid playing mate! I think as Gab said, the sections are a little long, and could be a bit shorter. Still, it has a nice instrumental/post rock feel which I really dig! Great stuff biggrin.gif

As a suggestion, you could play around with instrumentation and have the drums drop out for a section (for example). In repetitive music, you always want to be hearing for the changes smile.gif


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post Oct 29 2013, 09:44 AM
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Amazing feel and dynamics mate! I think that the somewhat repetitiveness of the structure is not so noticeable due to the dynamic phrasing, so in my opinion, it's a darn good piece of music.

I know how it feels when you feel like you came up with something good smile.gif You tend to let it happen a lot and listen to it so that you absorb its magic biggrin.gif It happens to me often, so I understand. Now, it's time to sober up and see what you can do so this will develop into a structured piece with a clear direction in the structure - beginning - content - climax - ending - what do you say?


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post Oct 29 2013, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 29 2013, 10:44 AM) *
Amazing feel and dynamics mate! I think that the somewhat repetitiveness of the structure is not so noticeable due to the dynamic phrasing, so in my opinion, it's a darn good piece of music.

I know how it feels when you feel like you came up with something good smile.gif You tend to let it happen a lot and listen to it so that you absorb its magic biggrin.gif It happens to me often, so I understand. Now, it's time to sober up and see what you can do so this will develop into a structured piece with a clear direction in the structure - beginning - content - climax - ending - what do you say?


Thank you Mister Cosmin, I appreciate a lot your comment smile.gif

As you said, I am not bothered by the repetitivness. Besides, I am not completly done with synths, I think that adding some more could prevent it from being static, and help the progression.

You are right, I think there are many elements there for making a good song, but It needs a bit more work on the structure to make a clearer direction appear (as you know that's kind of the point I need to work on, on all of my songs!).

I will try and make a more noticeable progression, and also insert a climax, as you and Gabriel suggested. Seems like a very good idea.

Thanks, see ya!




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post Oct 29 2013, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Unleech @ Oct 29 2013, 09:11 AM) *
Thank you Mister Cosmin, I appreciate a lot your comment smile.gif

As you said, I am not bothered by the repetitivness. Besides, I am not completly done with synths, I think that adding some more could prevent it from being static, and help the progression.

You are right, I think there are many elements there for making a good song, but It needs a bit more work on the structure to make a clearer direction appear (as you know that's kind of the point I need to work on, on all of my songs!).

I will try and make a more noticeable progression, and also insert a climax, as you and Gabriel suggested. Seems like a very good idea.

Thanks, see ya!


Alrighty Arthur! Keep us posted and we'll gladly help out wink.gif


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post Oct 29 2013, 02:01 PM
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About two minutes in so far and loving the feel of this track. It's dark and mysterious and reminds me a tiny bit of Dan Rock's Darkstar project with the guitars at time. Sounds very innovative to me as well. Not something you hear every day. Loving it! And the parts are so well connected! Well done!


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post Oct 29 2013, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (Unleech @ Oct 28 2013, 01:01 PM) *
Oh, seeing your link, I knew I would like it before listening.
Indeed I love it ! This is awesome.
I am gonna listen to it and see if I can immerse myself in that style.




By the way, I don't know any post-rock band like that. But obviously, I love it. I would appreciate if you could advice me some more, with this kind of mood/atmosphere ! laugh.gif




Well, I don't know too many bands like the one that I posted, bands that combine post rock with powerful sections. But some of my favourite bands in this style or that incorporate this style in their music are: Explosions in the sky, Mogwai, The Best Pessimist, Steven Wilson, Buckethead, Sigur Ros. Check each of these bands, they are amazing! smile.gif


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post Oct 30 2013, 08:44 AM
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Here is a new version:
Attached File  solo_1113_7.mp3 ( 12.15MB ) Number of downloads: 75


I changed a little bit the structure, and I add some parts.
There is still some work to do, Ihave not had enough time so far tongue.gif

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post Oct 30 2013, 04:28 PM
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Hi mate!! I'm starting to love this piece of music. I like how you managed dynamics and arrangements in this new version. I enjoyed listening to the whole track now! I love the clean atmospheres but I also enjoy a lot the most powerful sections. Congratulations!! smile.gif

This is not very close to your song but wanted to share another musician that I discovered on a thread here at GMC. It's instrumental guitar music but very MUSICAL. Inspiring.



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post Oct 30 2013, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 30 2013, 05:28 PM) *
Hi mate!! I'm starting to love this piece of music. I like how you managed dynamics and arrangements in this new version. I enjoyed listening to the whole track now! I love the clean atmospheres but I also enjoy a lot the most powerful sections. Congratulations!! smile.gif

This is not very close to your song but wanted to share another musician that I discovered on a thread here at GMC. It's instrumental guitar music but very MUSICAL. Inspiring.



Thank you a lot, I am really glad smile.gif
But, I am not done with it! I will go on working on it!

By the way, I fell in love with Frames, I really love the atmosphere... It is really the kind of harmony and ambiance I'd like to express in my songs!

I am listening to Plini, and it is wonderful too... I will listen to it ! I like very much the fusion touch smile.gif
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