Vibrato In Three Dimensions, Classical vibrato lowers the pitch
 Nov 2 2013, 12:29 PM Post #1 Learning Tone Master Group: Members Posts: 835 Joined: 31-December 10 From: Sweden Member No.: 11.929 Ok, so a while back in the Tuesday video chat, I tried to make a point by streaming video but the resolution did not allow for the required detail level. I therefore promised Darius to post a video to illustrate what I meant. I decided to also write down a few words in this context. HWithout delving too deeply into details on properties of different materials, and avoiding technical talk about wave lengths and frequencies, there are three physical factors that are of practical importance for guitarists when it comes to affecting the pitch of a string: thickness, length, and tension. A thick string gives a lower pitch than a thin string. A standard set of strings has the thicknesses adapted so that all strings have the same tension when the guitar is tuned in a standard fashion. Once the strings are in place, there's not much we can do to affect a string's thickness while actually playing, but we can use different string gagues for different situations. A short string gives a higher pitch than a long string, making length our most critical factor - fretting adjusts, in discrete steps, the length of the vibrating part of the string, i.e. the distance between the two points to which the vibrating part of the string are attached namely the bridge and the fret. A tense string gives a higher pitch than a loose string. This is widely employed among instrumentalists to add to the expression via small, continuous changes in the pitch (vibrato) and/or continuous transformations of the pitch between two discrete steps (bending). Bending/vibrato can be applied in three dimensions, which we consider separately below, although in practice it is usually a matter of a combination of the three. (1) Perpendicular to the fretboard. Applying too much pressure on the string at a fret (or rather between two frets) increases the tension and thus gives a wanted or unwanted increase in pitch. This is part of the explanation to why beginners sometimes sound out of pitch even if their guitar is in tune, especially when playing chords (more than one string is fretted at once), as their fingers are still getting used to applying as little pressure as possible and at the right spot in order for the string to produce a clean sound. With a scalloped fretboard this can be and has been used with great success to literally add a dimension to the vibrato. The opposite direction (up and away from the fretboard) has little or no practical use.(2) Parallel to the frets. This is the most common type of bending/vibrato. While the string is kept fretted, pushing or pulling the string parallel to the fret does increase the length somewhat (Pythagorean theorem), but the effect of this on the pitch is invalidated by the increase in tension, giving the string a higher pitch. By pulling and releasing, we make the pitch hover at and above the original pitch. (3) Parallel to the strings. Fretting with e.g. 3rd finger, two fingers can back up the strength needed to pull the string laterally in either direction. This is sometimes referred to as classical vibrato, since this lateral motion is the same as used on e.g. a violin which has no frets. Pulling the string towards the headstock increases the tension and thus the pitch, while pulling it towards the bridge releases the tension giving the string a lower pitch. Thus this can make the pitch hover above as well as below the original pitch. See the video for a description of the three. Circular vibrato uses a combination of (2) and (3).
 Nov 2 2013, 01:00 PM Post #2 Learning Guitar Lord Group: Members Posts: 803 Joined: 2-May 12 From: Holland Member No.: 15.794 Thats interesting stuff H4H but I think technically a vibrato can be 3 dimensional only if you actually pull the string away from the fretboard and vibrate it while doing that --------------------
 Nov 2 2013, 01:13 PM Post #3 Learning Tone Master Group: Members Posts: 835 Joined: 31-December 10 From: Sweden Member No.: 11.929 QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 2 2013, 01:00 PM) Thats interesting stuff H4H but I think technically a vibrato can be 3 dimensional only if you actually pull the string away from the fretboard and vibrate it while doing that Good point!
 Nov 2 2013, 02:10 PM Post #4 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 5.292 Joined: 29-November 12 From: Poland Member No.: 17.069 Thanx for the video Hungry! No it's clearly visible what's happening! Thx for taking the time to show us Weird thing indeed but as we spoke before it's an other way of affecting the string tension. Great that You could upload close view and good ligthening --------------------
 Nov 3 2013, 10:12 AM Post #5 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 I think this is a very clear and good explanation regarding what's going on with vibrato - in respect to point 1 These are sitar frets - the process you described and showed at point 1 can be executed even more in depth on frets which are so high as these. --------------------
 Nov 3 2013, 10:20 AM Post #6 Learning Tone Master Group: Members Posts: 835 Joined: 31-December 10 From: Sweden Member No.: 11.929 That's right Cosmin! And if I understand things correctly, the sitar was the main inspiration for scalloping an electric guitar in the first place.
 Nov 3 2013, 10:58 AM Post #7 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 2.290 Joined: 31-January 12 From: VALHALLA Member No.: 15.024 What about shakey vibrato? It's killer!
 Nov 3 2013, 11:36 PM Post #8 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Nov 3 2013, 09:20 AM) That's right Cosmin! And if I understand things correctly, the sitar was the main inspiration for scalloping an electric guitar in the first place. Had no clue about that, but it makes sense to me --------------------
 Nov 4 2013, 12:04 PM Post #9 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 5.292 Joined: 29-November 12 From: Poland Member No.: 17.069 Seems like this thread will become a nice collection of vibrato option. Great job Hungry --------------------
 Nov 4 2013, 04:02 PM Post #10 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 2.820 Joined: 30-December 12 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 17.304 I'm pretty sure McLaughlin was the first guy to scallop a guitar's fingerboard. Due to his Indian music journey. This post has been edited by klasaine: Nov 4 2013, 04:07 PM --------------------
 Nov 5 2013, 09:29 AM Post #11 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (klasaine @ Nov 4 2013, 03:02 PM) I'm pretty sure McLaughlin was the first guy to scallop a guitar's fingerboard. Due to his Indian music journey. Amazing I had no idea he had an entirely scalloped guitar! --------------------

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