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post Nov 15 2013, 02:52 PM
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I enjoyed watching it, real ear opener and nice to hear various uses of cool harmony approaches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z85YsUAU6pA


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post Nov 15 2013, 04:22 PM
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Love vids like this! Showing all the magic behind the scenes smile.gif Not so long a go I watched simialr movie about Nirvana and Curt laying on the floor while singing one of the songs...for best vocals performance smile.gif


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post Nov 15 2013, 04:40 PM
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Ridiculously talented people smile.gif here's another I shared on my facebook page the other day

http://www.makenmusic.com/blog_v2/link-of-...under-pressure/

Also though probably too advanced for many, its nice to see production steps incase anyone is into compose or arranging.


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post Nov 15 2013, 07:10 PM
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The funny thing I always think after watching some of those is like...we bother to keep the studios as perfect as possible (freq equality etc...) and when it comes to making real music...we use cheapest microphone to record an out of pitch bass drum, closed in the toilet...because it does the job for the record smile.gif Who are to advice people how to make records ? smile.gif


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post Nov 15 2013, 07:36 PM
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I guess we're starting to get out of the era of super sterile sounding music...it was really stupid, CD was found then computerized recording process got popular but we fed up with it so used analog sounding programs (vst's) for a search of balance tongue.gif

I hope soon music will be recognized more important than sound again cause in such discipline "the sound" automaticly follows the aesthetics.

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post Nov 15 2013, 09:51 PM
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Do You also have the feeling that every time You have to do the master You just destroy something that's already ok?


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post Nov 15 2013, 10:25 PM
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Its been a while since I last mastered a song but to be honest it really depends on the mix.

What I do is listen to it first to get the "vibe" just like someone who enjoys that band or music. Home made/smaller projects tend to sound more like live listening experiences so I don't want to treat them like a song thats ment to sell a lot smile.gif

Usually effort is (beside basic freq. balance which is only for balance not shaping) to make it sound deeper and bigger, more than once I edited the chorus parts gain to give a bigger punch musically when needed. Things like hiss, roomy sound always stays as is...I almost never compress but I do clip for level if needed. It's all about the musical flow really, if the song is good people will enjoy it whether its mastered or not (if the mix isn't a complete disaster, which also happens a lot smile.gif )

The studio/bigger production songs I dealt with usually were denser mixes. Its a habbit the producers check them on laptop speakers tongue.gif so process is simply about loudness which sadly defined who was the better mastering engineer tongue.gif

Incase anyone doesn't know, achieving loudness has its tricks which are usually kept secret but basicly its about filtering, compressing...destroying something and then re-shaping it to as if it was ment to be heard that way.

When I was a beginner, since I listened so much to the loud mastering when in recording or mixing stage I tried to achieve that sound in detail which is simply impossible so it sounded terrible. After making that mistake then I realized how things should be done. Still today this is the main reason beginners make so much mistakes, they work less on recording stage and more on mixing which should be the other way around to achieve the best sound that music deserves. Its really about not fixing what isn't broken biggrin.gif


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post Nov 16 2013, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Nov 15 2013, 06:10 PM) *
The funny thing I always think after watching some of those is like...we bother to keep the studios as perfect as possible (freq equality etc...) and when it comes to making real music...we use cheapest microphone to record an out of pitch bass drum, closed in the toilet...because it does the job for the record smile.gif Who are to advice people how to make records ? smile.gif


Heh - always thought of that smile.gif We recorded the first Days of Confusion EP encountering a lot of situation due to the fact that we didn't have constant access to the studio and we had to improvise stuff or record at home. But for the given situation, I think it came out great.. smile.gif

Darius - I am very curious about your opinion. What do you think about our EP in terms of mixing, mastering and this kind of stuff?



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