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atomix1337
post Jul 8 2007, 02:35 AM
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So, i can alternate speed pick fast passages, timing is great, but its noisy as all hell, compared to oh say, everyone else's :|.

What do you think i am doing wrong? I've tried superthick picks, ive tried superthin. ><!

What I am saying is, i hear more pick noises than notes ><!

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post Jul 8 2007, 02:44 AM
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Are you holding the pick at an angle when striking the string? Also, how hard is the pick actually hitting the string? Obviously the harder you're hitting the string the more noise you'll get tongue.gif . I used to have to tell myself.....I love my strings, I love my strings, I love my strings tongue.gif to keep from hitting them too hard.

By they way, only the very tip of my pick is hitting the string when it hits. I use 1 MM Nylon Jim Dunlop Jazz III's. It's a pretty small pick compared to a standard size pick and took some getting use to but I can't stand holding a regular sized pick now. They feel like I'm holding a brick.

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post Jul 8 2007, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE (SDMF75 @ Jul 8 2007, 02:44 AM) *
Are you holding the pick at an angle when striking the string? Also, how hard is the pick actually hitting the string? Obviously the harder you're hitting the string the more noise you'll get tongue.gif . I used to have to tell myself.....I love my strings, I love my strings, I love my strings tongue.gif to keep from hitting them too hard.



Aha, simple things to take in consideration, i seem not to remember this when im pickin' away happy.gif.

Thanks man, ill be sure to remember this when im practicing.


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post Jul 8 2007, 02:50 AM
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Maybe its your muting?? Try to Work on that and see if that helps any!!


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post Jul 8 2007, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jul 7 2007, 08:50 PM) *
Maybe its your muting?? Try to Work on that and see if that helps any!!


I think this is more likely the problem but there's a question you can answer to help us help you...

What's making the extra noise? Other strings or the one you're playing?

If it's other strings you need to work on muting.


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post Jul 8 2007, 10:16 AM
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i think i know what you mean, its were you hit the string and you can hear the pick striking the strings pretty well yeah?


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post Jul 8 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (JOhn @ Jul 8 2007, 04:16 AM) *
i think i know what you mean, its were you hit the string and you can hear the pick striking the strings pretty well yeah?

If thats what it is. With you pick. Im sorry, but i cant help. That just came natural to me. So never had to worry about that, but i guess i could say the usual biggrin.gif Practice, Practice, Practice. Play really slowly. Concentrating on yoru muting the strings, and lightly picking down, up, down, up!!
I wouldnt know any other way than that!!


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post Jul 8 2007, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (atomix1337 @ Jul 8 2007, 03:35 AM) *
So, i can alternate speed pick fast passages, timing is great, but its noisy as all hell, compared to oh say, everyone else's :|.


Well that basically means you CAN'T pick fast passages as it's TOO NOISY! Try lowing the gain on your distortion and practice slower. Noise is basically your picking and muting. Also hitting correct frets is pretty important wink.gif

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post Jul 9 2007, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jul 8 2007, 01:02 PM) *
Well that basically means you CAN'T pick fast passages as it's TOO NOISY! Try lowing the gain on your distortion and practice slower. Noise is basically your picking and muting. Also hitting correct frets is pretty important wink.gif

Keep us updated on the progress!



Got it, thanks for the responses guys.

It's DEFINITELY my muting, i find it hard to mute efficiently while doing those wide 6 string sweeps, any suggestions :s ? ...besides PRACTICE happy.gif !


Do you guys run your hand over each string (to mute it) as you play it? Or just make your whole hand-palm thing rest on the strings (all 6) whilst playing? I try to do that and i can get 5 strings muted and one string TOO much muted, or vice versa><. But i'll experiment and get back to you guys with that.




And to "John"...
...yes! I very much hear my pick striking the strings, and it's very loud :]


Ugh, lack of sleep is getting to me and i'm confusing techniques about when i was working on my sweep picking. ignore that last chunk :|

ALSO, i didnt know you had to mute the strings when your playing speedy stuff like that.
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QUOTE (SDMF75 @ Jul 8 2007, 02:44 AM) *
Are you holding the pick at an angle when striking the string? Also, how hard is the pick actually hitting the string? Obviously the harder you're hitting the string the more noise you'll get tongue.gif . I used to have to tell myself.....I love my strings, I love my strings, I love my strings tongue.gif to keep from hitting them too hard.

By they way, only the very tip of my pick is hitting the string when it hits. I use 1 MM Nylon Jim Dunlop Jazz III's. It's a pretty small pick compared to a standard size pick and took some getting use to but I can't stand holding a regular sized pick now. They feel like I'm holding a brick.


Ahh good to hear i picked up some Jim Dunlop Jazz III's the weekend and im having trouble adapting from the tortex


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QUOTE (atomix1337 @ Jul 8 2007, 03:35 AM) *
So, i can alternate speed pick fast passages, timing is great, but its noisy as all hell, compared to oh say, everyone else's :|.

What do you think i am doing wrong? I've tried superthick picks, ive tried superthin. ><!

What I am saying is, i hear more pick noises than notes ><!

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Atomix,show as a piece of video or mp3 where you are playing picking,
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post Jul 10 2007, 07:08 PM
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Yeah, all you gotta do is hold the pick at an angle.

Other than that PRACTICE SLOWLY>>>> Yeah that is the secret to good and fluent speed picking


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