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Darius Wave
post Jan 28 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (steve-rec-freak @ Jan 27 2014, 03:32 PM) *
Hi,

A cable is a cable is a cable. At least that was my experience. Instead of buying an expansive cable I always bought three cheap ones and still saved money and had two in spare in case something happened wink.gif
It took a long time until I recognized that good cables are really valuable and still totally underestimated smile.gif

BUT if you are planning to use cables of more than 6 meters or use multiple patch chords for your FX Gear it starts to make the difference. I am currently using "Sommer Cable" with HiCon connectors and solder them myself. This way I am able to build cables exactly the length I need them, to keep them as short as possible.

Building FX Rigs is where good cables and connectors really make the difference. In my rig I have a total of 12 patch chords between 10 and 30 cm long. I have tested the Sommer Cable Solution against a cheap china patch cord solution and must say that :

Many cheap cables in one place will sum up their faults and you will have way more buzz, limited dynamics, less signal going into your amp. More expansive cables will still have this problem but with much less negative effect. wink.gif

And when you are already using High End Cable, why not using a good guitar cable as well to keep up the quality biggrin.gif
I must say that I have used Mogami and Monster Cables but cannot tell the difference between my DIY Sommer Cable to the better or the worse. But I would generally say that in my opinion building a cable your own with good components is still way cheaper than buying a stock high end cable. ( They charge a small fortune for those cables)

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...cause You don't pay for a nice box with tons of graphics and wirritngs "how wonderful this cabe is". I do most of my cables myself. My chose were klotz and neutrik plugs. No specyfic reason why those. Maybe because of good availability at local market.


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post Jan 28 2014, 11:03 AM
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Just received my Spectraflex cables... they charged 20% of what I had paid on customs' taxes, heck no. As much as I love what they're doing, I can't afford to buy cables from abroad with a discount and then having to pay because it comes from out of Europe...


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post Jan 28 2014, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 28 2014, 10:03 AM) *
...cause You don't pay for a nice box with tons of graphics and wirritngs "how wonderful this cabe is". I do most of my cables myself. My chose were klotz and neutrik plugs. No specyfic reason why those. Maybe because of good availability at local market.


Exactly ! You get charged for a lot of things, that are not actually part of the cable.
I used Klotz and Neutrik before and have a very good impression by this combination. Most of the studios I know use this combination as well.
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post Jan 29 2014, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 28 2014, 09:03 AM) *
...cause You don't pay for a nice box with tons of graphics and wirritngs "how wonderful this cabe is". I do most of my cables myself. My chose were klotz and neutrik plugs. No specyfic reason why those. Maybe because of good availability at local market.


I am about to do this myself for the first time ever so wish me luck man - next week I am receiving the non soldering required jacks and I should be able to begin smile.gif


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post Jan 29 2014, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 29 2014, 09:20 AM) *
I am about to do this myself for the first time ever so wish me luck man - next week I am receiving the non soldering required jacks and I should be able to begin smile.gif


Thumbs up ! Easy thing to do smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2014, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE (steve-rec-freak @ Jan 29 2014, 04:08 PM) *
Thumbs up ! Easy thing to do smile.gif


Thanks man smile.gif Will show you guys what I got laugh.gif


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post Jan 30 2014, 10:18 AM
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it's not a matter of luck smile.gif Just be patient, do it slowly and make sure You make a descent soldering. I usually cover the raw cable with a bit of solder then I heat the jack with a piece of a solder as well. Finally I solder both.


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post Jan 30 2014, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 30 2014, 10:18 AM) *
it's not a matter of luck smile.gif Just be patient, do it slowly and make sure You make a descent soldering. I usually cover the raw cable with a bit of solder then I heat the jack with a piece of a solder as well. Finally I solder both.


Nothing more to add here smile.gif And do not freak out when its not working at first. You can solder and desolder multiple times before breaking something on your connector. But please make sure that the connector can get really hot. Don't hurt yourself!

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post Jan 30 2014, 06:25 PM
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I will only add to that by saying "get a quality soldering iron or gun".


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A good soldering iron and something to hold the connector in the perfect position for you. You often need 3 hands for soldering.


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post Jan 30 2014, 08:02 PM
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I must say though, Dave Russel from Spectraflex is a really nice guy. The new cables look great...






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post Jan 31 2014, 02:39 AM
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Dave is a KILLER guy and those cables look amazing I gotta say smile.gif Sorry to hear they hit you with crazy taxes just because it came from outside Europe. sad.gif Nothing you can do there but by local. I had see the alien cables but haven't tried them yet. I like that they glow smile.gif Easy to trace/find cable on a dark stage/studio/room etc. Let us know what you think!

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I must say though, Dave Russel from Spectraflex is a really nice guy. The new cables look great...






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post Jan 31 2014, 07:23 AM
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Thanks for the support guys! And Miguel - those cables look very nice! I haven't had a chance to write the guy, but I will do it today smile.gif


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post Jan 31 2014, 01:29 PM
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Yep they look awesome smile.gif


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Do cables make a difference? I would say yes..
Up until a while ago, I used mostly cheap no-name cables.
After switching to Pete Cornish Cables, and some high-end patch cables a local high-end guitar shop makes themselves, I noticed a huge difference.

My sound is way cleaner (not interference) and clearer after the change to more expensive cables.
I am not going back :-)
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SUPER CONGRATS to MiguelBatalha on becoming an OFFICIAL SPECTRAFLEX ENDORSEE!!!!!

How awesome is that?? I"m a member of the "Spectraflex Family" of musicians myself so I"m thrilled to see one of our own join the fold smile.gif Well done!!!! is this your first endorsement? If so Triple Super Congrats!!!!!

Nicely done smile.gif

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I must say though, Dave Russel from Spectraflex is a really nice guy. The new cables look great...






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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 5 2014, 04:02 AM) *
SUPER CONGRATS to MiguelBatalha on becoming an OFFICIAL SPECTRAFLEX ENDORSEE!!!!!

How awesome is that?? I"m a member of the "Spectraflex Family" of musicians myself so I"m thrilled to see one of our own join the fold smile.gif Well done!!!! is this your first endorsement? If so Triple Super Congrats!!!!!

Nicely done smile.gif

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I had non-official endorsements with other stuff but Spectraflex was the first thing that went public (and they posted my info, ETC on their website, ETC)

They're really great (Spectraflex) biggrin.gif I'm very happy


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post Feb 19 2014, 10:24 PM
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Peavey actually makes a decent cable with neutrik jacks.

I personally have been making my own cables with Mogami cable and Neurtik Silent plug.


I had Spectraflex cables in the 90's, and they weren't good.
I tried George L's when they only had the straight plug, and those went faulty constantly.

Most recently I paid $300 for the Line 6 wireless, and love it. So now it's just my patch cables to worry about from here on out.


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I started using spectraflex cables just last year and I was really impressed with the build and sound quality. Not to mention that they made me cables with right angle plugs on both ends which is very handy with my setup. smile.gif I don't have any experience with their products from the 90s though. sad.gif

Before that i was using Planet Waves cables which were very sturdy but a bit pricey and usually had right angle plug only on one end. sad.gif Haven't tried the peavey cables yet, but I"m always open to trying new bits of kit smile.gif

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Peavey actually makes a decent cable with neutrik jacks.

I personally have been making my own cables with Mogami cable and Neurtik Silent plug.


I had Spectraflex cables in the 90's, and they weren't good.
I tried George L's when they only had the straight plug, and those went faulty constantly.

Most recently I paid $300 for the Line 6 wireless, and love it. So now it's just my patch cables to worry about from here on out.



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post Feb 20 2014, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE (NPB1979 @ Feb 19 2014, 09:24 PM) *
Peavey actually makes a decent cable with neutrik jacks.

I personally have been making my own cables with Mogami cable and Neurtik Silent plug.


I had Spectraflex cables in the 90's, and they weren't good.
I tried George L's when they only had the straight plug, and those went faulty constantly.

Most recently I paid $300 for the Line 6 wireless, and love it. So now it's just my patch cables to worry about from here on out.


Judging by the price, I am assuming you have the Line 6 G30 right? smile.gif How does it work from the perspective of signal loss?


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