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post Feb 20 2014, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 20 2014, 06:33 AM) *
Judging by the price, I am assuming you have the Line 6 G30 right? smile.gif How does it work from the perspective of signal loss?


Yes. The G30. There is no audible signal loss to my ear, and I've been playing good quality electrics since 1994. There is a 10' and 20' guitar cable simulator to create the common signal loss a guitar would have with a normal cable. But again, I don't hear much difference.

I did some distance testing, and I can be around 200 feet away with no latency or cutting out. From a basement guitar amp, I can go up at least two floors without interference. It is pretty nice.

Another thing I really like is that you can use any cord to connect the guitar to the wireless remote, and any cord to connect the floor receiver to your pedals or straight into the amp.

Youtube has some nice demos and review on it.


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post Feb 21 2014, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (NPB1979 @ Feb 20 2014, 01:22 PM) *
Yes. The G30. There is no audible signal loss to my ear, and I've been playing good quality electrics since 1994. There is a 10' and 20' guitar cable simulator to create the common signal loss a guitar would have with a normal cable. But again, I don't hear much difference.

I did some distance testing, and I can be around 200 feet away with no latency or cutting out. From a basement guitar amp, I can go up at least two floors without interference. It is pretty nice.

Another thing I really like is that you can use any cord to connect the guitar to the wireless remote, and any cord to connect the floor receiver to your pedals or straight into the amp.

Youtube has some nice demos and review on it.


Nice! Thanks man smile.gif I have some friends - they play metal - and they use them onstage all the time. There's a lot of theatrics with them and the show is very dynamic, so I was thinking that they are cool, but you know, I have to document myself pretty well before actually making an acquisition. What sort of styles do you play?


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post Feb 21 2014, 04:58 PM
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Regarding cables I would say that good cbales make a difference. It is more or less obvious depending on:

- the signal (vocals through mic pre, guitars mic'd though cabinet/direct out/digital box, keyboards...)
- the final destination
- everything in between and behind the final destination

Example given:
If you record your nice acoustic guitar / most loved guitar/amp combo through a great microphone, followed by a decent pre/channelstrip and converted by a good AD/DA converter to tape/your digital DAW and listen to the result thorugh some great speakers in a well treated room the choice of the cable will be obvious.
If you track a standard $200 guitar through a Korg Pandora direclty into a $100 interface the difference will be almost unnoticable.

If you use microphopnes to record your signal a good quality cable between the mic and the pre is beneficial without any doubt.


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 21 2014, 08:00 AM) *
Nice! Thanks man smile.gif I have some friends - they play metal - and they use them onstage all the time. There's a lot of theatrics with them and the show is very dynamic, so I was thinking that they are cool, but you know, I have to document myself pretty well before actually making an acquisition. What sort of styles do you play?


I play 70's covers, 90's covers, and blues. One of the blues guys on the JoeBonamassa forum turned me on to them.
My original band does nerdy pop-punk. We're the "nerdiest rock band in Detroit."
I have a theremin solo in one of the songs, lol.
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QUOTE (Lovtscho @ Feb 21 2014, 03:58 PM) *
Regarding cables I would say that good cbales make a difference. It is more or less obvious depending on:

- the signal (vocals through mic pre, guitars mic'd though cabinet/direct out/digital box, keyboards...)
- the final destination
- everything in between and behind the final destination

Example given:
If you record your nice acoustic guitar / most loved guitar/amp combo through a great microphone, followed by a decent pre/channelstrip and converted by a good AD/DA converter to tape/your digital DAW and listen to the result thorugh some great speakers in a well treated room the choice of the cable will be obvious.
If you track a standard $200 guitar through a Korg Pandora direclty into a $100 interface the difference will be almost unnoticable.

If you use microphopnes to record your signal a good quality cable between the mic and the pre is beneficial without any doubt.


+10 smile.gif Best stuff I read today! Of course, the difference will be felt in comparison with the rest of the gear used in the process! Good going man!


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post Feb 22 2014, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE (NPB1979 @ Feb 21 2014, 04:16 PM) *
I play 70's covers, 90's covers, and blues. One of the blues guys on the JoeBonamassa forum turned me on to them.
My original band does nerdy pop-punk. We're the "nerdiest rock band in Detroit."
I have a theremin solo in one of the songs, lol.
http://www.reverbnation.com/strollercoaster


Haha biggrin.gif Funny stuff biggrin.gif Love the lyrics! The theremin is by far one of the most amazing things I've ever come across smile.gif How did you learn how to use it man?



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I've never paid too much attention to cables. Maybe it's worth looking into, though I think the cable I have is somewhat average and not totally cheap. It's years and years old though.


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post Feb 23 2014, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Feb 22 2014, 03:41 PM) *
I've never paid too much attention to cables. Maybe it's worth looking into, though I think the cable I have is somewhat average and not totally cheap. It's years and years old though.


The comment above, posted by Lovtscho, regarding the fact that the difference is obvious when it comes down to the rest of the gear, kind of says it all smile.gif


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QUOTE (Lovtscho @ Feb 21 2014, 07:58 AM) *
Regarding cables I would say that good cbales make a difference. It is more or less obvious depending on:

- the signal (vocals through mic pre, guitars mic'd though cabinet/direct out/digital box, keyboards...)
- the final destination
- everything in between and behind the final destination

Example given:
If you record your nice acoustic guitar / most loved guitar/amp combo through a great microphone, followed by a decent pre/channelstrip and converted by a good AD/DA converter to tape/your digital DAW and listen to the result thorugh some great speakers in a well treated room the choice of the cable will be obvious.
If you track a standard $200 guitar through a Korg Pandora direclty into a $100 interface the difference will be almost unnoticable.

If you use microphopnes to record your signal a good quality cable between the mic and the pre is beneficial without any doubt.



QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 22 2014, 11:56 PM) *
The comment above, posted by Lovtscho, regarding the fact that the difference is obvious when it comes down to the rest of the gear, kind of says it all smile.gif


Yes, that has been my experience as well.
When everything else is of good quality and in good working condition that last 2 or 3% can have a perceptible difference.

*I have a pair of Evidence Audio 'forte' cables that only go to sessions. http://www.evidenceaudio.com/product.html

For live I use some Spectraflex, Lava, Fulltone, Canare, Mogami, Belden (belden is great bulk wire but you have to make your own cables with it). All decent quality that'll hold up in live conditions and isn't too expensive to replace when they break or get lost.


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