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Ryan
post Jul 9 2007, 04:55 AM
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Ok this is my new guitar. Rgr 521 Ex2 (Ibanez), and well ive had to for more than 2 months. Still new to me biggrin.gif, but im having some problems.

I have some fret buzz. On the G string. Around the 9th fret. Which thats where it is really bad. It just developed this problem. In the last couple of weeks. How can i fix this?? New strings? Raise the action?? All of the strings are the same action. So why does it not occur on the other strings??

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And another problem. There is some rust i think. The springs on the bridge. I think ineed to just take it in!!

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post Jul 9 2007, 03:38 PM
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on the buzzing....it sounds like it's time for a tune up. I'd take it in to get it setup if it's that bad. It's tough for me to tell from the sound file (probably my hearing laugh.gif ). The rust I maybe more help on. Where in your house are you keeping your guitar? The reason I ask is when I was in high school my bedroom was in the basement. The humidity level was higher and I noticed rust starting to show up on the guitar that I had. I put a couple of packs of Silica Gel in the case and that stopped the rust from going any further. Hope this helps.


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post Jul 9 2007, 03:47 PM
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If it STARTS at the 9th fret it sounds like the neck has a concavity to it.

Try adjusting your truss rod and adjusting the neck to be more straight. However, get someone else to back me up on this before you do it.

Right now I think your guitar neck is like this )| where the ) is the shape of the neck and the | are your strings which would be creating the buzz half way down. You need to make it more (| for an extreme example.

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post Jul 10 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE (SDMF75 @ Jul 9 2007, 09:38 AM) *
on the buzzing....it sounds like it's time for a tune up. I'd take it in to get it setup if it's that bad. It's tough for me to tell from the sound file (probably my hearing laugh.gif ). The rust I maybe more help on. Where in your house are you keeping your guitar? The reason I ask is when I was in high school my bedroom was in the basement. The humidity level was higher and I noticed rust starting to show up on the guitar that I had. I put a couple of packs of Silica Gel in the case and that stopped the rust from going any further. Hope this helps.

Well i just graduated highschool. And i lived in the basement. And tahts where the guitar stays. I dont even put it up. I just leave it where i leave it. so later i can just pick up where i left off., but hmm i need to find a guitar store that could hook it all up. Maybe some new pickups. biggrin.gif So i dont use stock pickups. Hmm. It sounds like a lot of money to me though sad.gif


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post Jul 10 2007, 02:35 AM
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The basement is your rust problem then. Get a dehumidifier for the entire basement and put your axe in a case with the silica gel packets inside.


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post Jul 10 2007, 02:49 AM
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Ok, how much would it be to replace those rusted springs? and really how much of a problem is it, since they are rusted?


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post Jul 10 2007, 03:06 AM
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I'm not sure how much trouble it's going to be but those springs are what helps you set your intonation. You would probably need to remove the bridge (I believe it's all connected unsure.gif ) and rub them down with some naval jelly to get the rust off or as you mentioned you could replace them. The best thing to do would be to let a pro handle it for you when you've got the cash. I think (in North Carolina anyway) a setup runs about $75 or so. I don't know if you can just replace the springs after running a search on Musicians Friend. A new bridge may be what you're in for if you decide to replace. Musicians Friend

I hope that I've been some help. The truss rod explanation made sense too about the buzzing.


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post Jul 10 2007, 03:11 AM
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Oh man, a whole bridge replacement!! Pff well that might get my guitar sounding better, and feeling better. When i have no stock stuff on there biggrin.gif. Just kind of customize it right biggrin.gif. Because if i change the bridge. Im gonna want to change the pickups, adn everythign. And also, when changing the bridge. Is there anyway that i can get a bridge with a tremolo?? Because mine doesnt have one. Is taht possible without to much work?


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post Jul 10 2007, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jul 9 2007, 04:55 AM) *
Ok this is my new guitar. Rgr 521 Ex2 (Ibanez), and well ive had to for more than 2 months. Still new to me biggrin.gif, but im having some problems.

I have some fret buzz. On the G string. Around the 9th fret. Which thats where it is really bad. It just developed this problem. In the last couple of weeks. How can i fix this?? New strings? Raise the action?? All of the strings are the same action. So why does it not occur on the other strings??

Attached File  Video_9.avi ( 5.47MB ) Number of downloads: 120


And another problem. There is some rust i think. The springs on the bridge. I think ineed to just take it in!!

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Ryan,

If this guitar is only a few months old or you bought it used without this issue, I would expect there is no reason to buy new components for it. Just get it cleaned up as soon as possible so the rust does not continue to eat away at the metal. I know it may be a hassle but if you can not keep it upstairs then you need to take some precautions with the humidity especially with the summer heat and humidity likely to increase. A dehumidifier is probably your best bet since it will protect all your equipment. I'm sure you could find a fairly inexpensive cabinet style used dehumidfier on Ebay or something. As far as your guitar, once it is out of the humid air for a few days the tone may come back without even adjusting. Either way, you should clean it all up really well. Take a picture and mark all the bridge positions and you most likely can get it back to the way it was. If all else fails, the guitar shop should be able to get it back to where it should be.
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post Jul 10 2007, 03:30 AM
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If you replaced the bridge you wouldn't have to put new pickups in but you could if you really wanted. The tremolo deal is out as I believe you would still need to have springs in the back for a standard trem.


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post Jul 10 2007, 04:44 AM
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I have never seen this metioned on here before but.... my nephew, ( I think i have mentioned him a few times on here ;-) plays guitar, works at a local GC and gets me deals.) He told me to never lean my guitar up against anything, you know like a desk or a wall unless it is with the strings facing the object, so backwards. I kind of ignored this but he is a freak about it. If I pick up one of his guitars and lean it on something the wrong way he will put it backwards or tell me to. I guess this is so if it does bow it does it the other way and is less likely to have an effect on playing it. So I have given in and started leaning it on things the same way since for some reason it must be an issue.


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post Jul 10 2007, 05:03 AM
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The weird thing is though. This happens only with this guitar. I have my other, Electric sitting out. Which is even in lower quality than this guitar. By far this guitar i have is higher quality. So this guitar, and not hte other. I mean the strings rusted on that guitar, but those were relaly cheap strings, and i dont play it. And when i did. I think I something on my hands at the time, but other than that. There nothign wrong with it. So why my best guitar. And not my suckiest one sad.gif


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post Jul 10 2007, 06:35 AM
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I agree with the theory that environmental conditions (i.e. higher humidity) could have caused the guitar to adjust. Best bet is to check your neck bow/action and adjust your truss rod accordingly (or have someone you trust do it for you). Also put on some new (maybe heavier) strings. And check and make sure a fret hasn't wiggled it's way out a bit.
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post Jul 11 2007, 12:10 AM
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I dont even know where to find the truss rod at. Not even on my other guitar either.


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post Jul 11 2007, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jul 9 2007, 04:55 AM) *
Ok this is my new guitar. Rgr 521 Ex2 (Ibanez), and well ive had to for more than 2 months. Still new to me biggrin.gif, but im having some problems.

I have some fret buzz. On the G string. Around the 9th fret. Which thats where it is really bad. It just developed this problem. In the last couple of weeks. How can i fix this?? New strings? Raise the action?? All of the strings are the same action. So why does it not occur on the other strings??

Attached File  Video_9.avi ( 5.47MB ) Number of downloads: 120


And another problem. There is some rust i think. The springs on the bridge. I think ineed to just take it in!!

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The buzzing sounds similar to a noise my fender strat suddenly developed on higher notes I traced this to a loose securing nut on the jack presumably certain notes made it vibrate. The intonation of your guitar does sound off but that may be my computer ,to check this tune your guitar to concert pitch(use an electronic tuner).Fret the string on the 12 read meter then play the 12 fret harmonic.The 12 fret note and harmonic should be the same +or- 100th of a semitone if the fretted note is sharp the string needs to be made longer by pulling the saddle backwards and vise versa. Do this on all strings.If you have a floating bridge you may have to repeat this operation a couple of times to get all strings correctThis should be done whenever the strins are changed as different makes/gauges of strings affect this. By the way big hello to all at G.M.C.as this is my first post.
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jul 9 2007, 07:55 AM) *
Ok this is my new guitar. Rgr 521 Ex2 (Ibanez), and well ive had to for more than 2 months. Still new to me biggrin.gif, but im having some problems.

I have some fret buzz. On the G string. Around the 9th fret. Which thats where it is really bad. It just developed this problem. In the last couple of weeks. How can i fix this?? New strings? Raise the action?? All of the strings are the same action. So why does it not occur on the other strings??

Attached File  Video_9.avi ( 5.47MB ) Number of downloads: 120


And another problem. There is some rust i think. The springs on the bridge. I think ineed to just take it in!!

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Take it to a guitar store then ask them to fix the fret buzz. They will probably use a file and shoten the height of the fret wire on the G string after finding out the problem. They should do this for free.

Dont know bout the rust (are you sure its 2 months old?)

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QUOTE (AIB234 @ Jul 9 2007, 04:47 PM) *
If it STARTS at the 9th fret it sounds like the neck has a concavity to it.

Try adjusting your truss rod and adjusting the neck to be more straight. However, get someone else to back me up on this before you do it.

Right now I think your guitar neck is like this )| where the ) is the shape of the neck and the | are your strings which would be creating the buzz half way down. You need to make it more (| for an extreme example.

Hope my little diagrams help, haha.

I was thinking the same, trussrod. Ryan, search the forum, there are more posts on this. Try "truss rod" and "trussrod" for search words.


QUOTE (jammer91 @ Jul 11 2007, 12:01 PM) *
Take it to a guitar store then ask them to fix the fret buzz. They will probably use a file and shoten the height of the fret wire on the G string after finding out the problem. They should do this for free.

I'd never let the file my frets down, not even if it came for free and a club sandwich included. They'd ruin the guitar.


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