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post Aug 22 2015, 08:25 PM
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Hi mate,

this are not easy lessons, the tempo is fast and even being "punk" rock (a style that people things is easy) require a good control of rhythm playing and palm muting, very close to heavy and thrash metal. It's important to practice at a slow tempo and being able to play everything tight. The goal is to play this kind of lessons well not fast, so if you find your comfortable tempo and record everything sounding good we can see it as a goal achieved (plus motivation will come).



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post Aug 24 2015, 07:41 PM
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Yeah thanks Gab that makes a lot of sense what your saying. Lots of people seem to think that Punk is an easy style but getting to that speed in the original lesson is by no means easy at all. I have to accept that I am not at that level where I can play it at that speed and that the speed will come with time.
I started up on the bad religion lesson again today, that's a real fun lesson btw. I have had that bad religion song "american jesus" in my head since the concert so I had to revisit the lesson again! My aim is to record some new takes this week of the other lessons I am working on. I am trying to build up some momentum again!
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Excellent mate! That sounds good to me. Keep on working hard and enjoying this journey. smile.gif


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Hey mate, here is a new take of the BMTH lesson. Still some mistakes here and there but this lesson is getting more and more comfortable for me now. More videos on the way...

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Hi Philm! Good job!

The lesson still has obvious timing issues, but I note a big progress comparing this one with the previous take. This means that you are doing your practice right. Please keep on practicing in this way, and try slower tempos to adjust the trickier parts (I've already marked the tricky part on previous feedback).

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Hey Gab, Thanks for the feedback. I still am having trouble on the breakdown part in that lesson. I find it difficult going from the pinched harmonic to the palm muted notes, my thumb also seems to get trapped under the strings when I adjust it for the pinched harmonic.

Here are the rest of the lessons below.

ADTR


Rise Against
I know there are still timing issues here, I don't know what is taking me so long to get this lesson right!


Lagwagon
I am quite proud of this one, I know there are still some issues but I recorded this first take and I think its slowly getting there now!
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Hi mate! Good job with these videos!

I can say that the one that gives more problems is Rise Against and the reason is clear. It's really fast! So it will require more time of practice. However, I think that it would be good to let it for playing twice every day and start working on other lessons that are a bit below this one regarding speed and difficulty to use them as a bridge to be able to play this one. What do you think? I have many punk/hardcore lessons that are a bit below in difficulty, just check my lessons archive.

About your right hand technique. I'd like to ask you to compare your take on ADTR lesson with mine. Check both and pay special attention to the right hand movements. You'll notice important differences that make my technique more natural and that allows me to play some riff with more intensity, making the take more aggressive.

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Hey Gab,
Thanks for the feedback! I agree, that's a good idea to learn a easier punk lesson to help me get the rise against one up to speed.
I was thinking of learning your sum 41 lesson or/and the song, "the hell song" by sum 41 which your lesson reminds me of. I already started learning this song some while ago and sometime I would like to finish learning it plus I think this would be a next good song for song analysis. I also am working on the bad religion lesson which is a bit easier than the rise against one. Another lesson I like that isn't strictly punk is your Hives lesson.

Regarding the ADTR lesson and my right hand technique. When I look at your right, you have more movement at the wrist? You also hold the pick at more of an angle that I do. Do you mean this? In general it just looks a lot smoother when your playing it.
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Hi Philm, I think that it's a good idea to work on that lesson, as well as the song. It will be also more motivating to be able to master lessons, but keep on playing twice every day the tricky one.

About the right hand, yes! That's what I mean. My way of moving my right hand is smoother and the variation in amplitude allows more dynamics work. It would be good to try to apply it a bit into your own technique. You can do this with my lesson, and you can also do it by analyzing great rhythm players like James Hetfield, Dimebag Darrell, Van Halen or even Malcolm Young. Let's focus on details.


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Hi Gab, thanks for the tips with the right hand. I feel this has improved if I compare videos from last year where my hand looks really stiff but I have someway to go yet, I will keep trying it. Here below is my revised plan that I will try to practice at least 5 times a week.

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1.BMTH - Breakdown Riff (5mins)(2x All)
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7.Sum 41 Style (20mins)

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I have been neglecting this area lately.
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2.Vibrato Lesson(5mins)

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1.Song Analysis - Sum 41 - The Hell Song
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Great plan Philm! Yes, I also think that your technique has improved a lot in the last months so you are on the right track with our practice. The plan looks great, so let's go for it and let me know how it feels at the end of the week.

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Ok Gab, I have been trying to adjust my right hand over the last two practices and it's a bit of adjustment but I can see what you mean. I seem to be able to attack the strings a bit harder and with more control when I change the angle of how I hold the pick plus moving from the wrist. I have nearly learned all the parts from the sum 41 lesson, could you send me the slower backings? I want to build this one up nice and slow biggrin.gif
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Hi Philm, great to know that you are adjusting your right hand technique. It will have a very important impact in your playing.

Here you can download the backings: Attached File  sum_41_slow_backings.zip ( 4.9MB ) Number of downloads: 20


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Hey Gab
Sorry its been a while again. I have been following my plan for the last week but I didn't feel like I progressed enough to record any takes last week. I have learned the whole sum 41 lesson, when I record it though I notice timing issues also. I have been building it up at a slow temp and I notice when I play it slow my timing is more off than when I play faster. I am often ahead of the beat, the problem is I am not comfortable playing all the parts at a fast speed. I will keep working on it and try to record a first take by the end of the week.

I have also been trying to focus on my right hand a lot especially with the metalcore lessons and palm muting. I think its going well it is just taking a little time to adjust but I shall keep going on it.
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Hi Philm, thanks for the update.

My recommendation is to try to work on smaller sections, don't try to play the whole lesson and adjust it. Take the parts that give problems and work on them as a loop, the smaller the part is, the easier will become to stay focused and polish details to master it.



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Yeah Gab. that's my usual approach to learning lessons, first to learn the whole lesson slowly. Then as I increase the speed I notice which parts need to be worked on isolated.

I managed to make two takes yesterday, I wanted to make takes of all the lessons I am working on but I only managed the sum 41 and bad religion. Here they are below!

Sum 41
I can't play the sum 41 at full speed yet, the second part is giving me the most trouble but here is a first take at 160bmp


Bad Reglion
I am not happy with this one yet, I notice my right hand could be looser here in the first riff. I move mainly from my hand.
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Hi Philm! There is something weird happening with Sum 41 lesson, there is some kind of delay or something on your guitar, do you note it? Maybe there is latency....

About Bad Religion lesson, you are not ready yet for this tempo, please practice this one at a slower tempo and focus on timing, mostly during the intro melodies/riffs. Ok?



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hmm yeah I think there is a latency problem. I was having problems recording this lesson that is would pop and crackle every once in a while. I researched the topic a bit and maybe I have the wrong buffer size set. I had it at 1536 samples but some articles say to have it high and others low, I am not quite sure what's right. Also I am having problems with my network card which may be inferring too. I will try to solve this problem.

Do you have any slower backings of the the bad religion to download, so I can make some slow loops of the intro riff? wink.gif
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Hi mate, yes, I usually set a smaller buffer size, close to 128 or 256. This is related to your processor so you have to experiment what's the best setting for you, but I think that you've found the problem.

About the backings, I don't find them in my computer, I'll see if we can get them from the lesson. I wonder if you know this software, it's very useful for practicing:

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Hey Gab,
It's been a while, well I still haven't managed to fix this issue with the latency and its starting to get really annoying. I have tried setting the buffer size at all different sizes and it's still not fixed the problem. If anything it's gotten worse, the sound cuts out completely for like half a second and then resumes at a later part in the track which makes it impossible to practice!
I have tried the following.

1.Setting buffer size lower reduces the latency but the sound cuts out completely every once in a while. Having a higher buffer size reduces the latency but cuts out more.
2. I thought it may be an issue with connecting my pod hd500x into my steinberg audio interface but I have always done it this way. I changed the xlr button to ground and the 1/4" to amp and it worked yesterday but now today i am getting the same issues again.
3.Updated all the drivers on my laptop.
4.Tried different USB ports.
5.It seems to depend also on what track or file , for example the sum 41 one is the worst for cutting out.

This is really starting to frustrate me, I have been struggling a bit for motivation as it is lately but I really wanted to get back practicing hard this week and this is just stopping me. Do you have any other ideas what the problem maybe? I'd appreciate it dry.gif

BTW, killer lesson on royal blood! I saw them last year in concert and its amazing what a killer racket of sound those two can make live. It inspired me to get going on the current lessons I am learning so I can start learning that one!
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