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Ok, here you have more impulses to be opened and tried with the LeCab, please try other ones and let me know what happens.

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Hey Gab, Sorry I haven't posted for a while I have still been struggling with some health issues which just means I can't practice as much as I want to. So many setbacks lately but I have finally managed to record a first take of the Bring Me the Horizon lesson. It's a far way off from perfection and its at 105bmp not full speed. I tried the other impulses you sent but it's still sounding terrible as you can hear in the lesson. I don't know what else to try!
Anyway I found this lesson quite difficult with these rhythm patterns and also I am having trouble with the pinched harmonics. Its not so much the pinch harmonics themselves, I can do these by themselves isolated but its going from the pinch harmonics to the palm muted part I find difficult which makes the pinch harmonics parts sound weak.

I plan to learn a few more metalcore lessons(i started the day to remember one too) so I have then covered a few different rhythm styles, punk, stoner rock, the john frusciante lessons and now metalcore. Afterwards I would like to maybe come up with my own stuff.Maybe something for each style. What do you think?

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Hi Phil, could you please give me details on these things:

- How you connect your guitar to your computer.
- Some print screens of the guitar channel inserts in Cubase.
- Some print screens of the head amp and also of the cabinet simulator.

If there is any other detail that can help me to decipher what's the problem with the tone please share it here.

About your playing, I can note that the lesson is still giving many timing issues. It's not an easy lesson, it requires a big control of your right hand picking and palm muting. You know how to play all the riffs correctly, now it's time to polish each one. I note that you tend to play a bit before the beat most of the times, and that you are not comfortable playing 16th notes with palm muting at this tempo.

My suggestion is to work at a slower tempo, and over each riff as a loop. You could open the slower backing track on Cubase and create loops for each riff to put all your focus on each ones at a time. You have around 6 parts/riffs so you can divide your practice and work on 3 riffs each day, and dedicate 30 minutes to each one. So your week would look like this:

Day 1: Licks 1, 2 and 3. 3 x 30 minutes.
Day 2: Licks 4, 5 and 6. 3 x 30 minutes.
Day 3: Licks 1, 2 and 3. 3 x 30 minutes.
Day 4: Licks 4, 5 and 6. 3 x 30 minutes.
Day 5: Licks 1, 2 and 3. 3 x 30 minutes.
Day 6: Licks 4, 5 and 6. 3 x 30 minutes.
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Hey Gab, Thanks for your feedback. I have taken your suggestion on board and slowed down to 85bmp and practiced each riff isolated. 30 mins per riff seems like a long time but I already feel the riffs getting tighter so I can understand it's the right way to go! About the tone, I attached two screenshots below. I simply connect my guitar through my steinberg UR44 audio interface which is then connected to my computer via USB. In Cubase I then add the inserts via the effects slot. I have to turn of the direct monitoring so I can preview the inserts. I don't what else to try anymore, its a bit strange dry.gif

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We got it!! The problem is the order or plug ins! You need to insert the amp before the cabinet emulation. This means, first lecto and then leCab. Please try it and let me know if it works ok now!

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Yes finally works! biggrin.gif I thought I had already tried that but I think I tried it only with Kefir plugin. Now its sounding real nice just got to get the playing in order now!

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QUOTE (philm @ Feb 28 2015, 02:13 PM) *
Yes finally works! biggrin.gif I thought I had already tried that but I think I tried it only with Kefir plugin. Now its sounding real nice just got to get the playing in order now!



hehehe awesome!! I want to hear it now! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 1 2015, 03:23 PM) *
hehehe awesome!! I want to hear it now! smile.gif


Soon soon...i will make a new take biggrin.gif I was wondering if you could send me the slower backing tracks for the lesson a day to remember. I have learned all the parts to this one as well and I want to take the same approach as the BMTH lesson with focusing on each riff slowly.

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Good idea! Here you can download the backings: Attached File  backings.zip ( 6.37MB ) Number of downloads: 74


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Thanks for the backings! I am aiming to do a recording of both the BMTH and A Day to Remember lessons at the weekend. wink.gif

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Great! Looking forward your new videos! smile.gif

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So here we go Gab here are the two takes on the lessons. First of all the Bring Me the Horizon one, i slowed this one down to 85bmp but it's still causing me a lot of struggles. Especially the palm muted alternative picking sections, I a feeling this one is going to be a long term project until i get it mastered. The A Day To Remember lesson seemed to come a lot quicker together, I did the take at 100bmp so not full speed yet.



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Hi Philm, good new videos! I also notice that these are evolving but there is still more work to do. Your right hand needs to be used to this movements. There is something that I'd like to mark on your technique and it's the fact that you are doing some fingers movement with your right hand while the best should be to focus the motion starting on your wrist. Try to make a block that starts from your wrist to make your picking stronger and I think that it will help to make it smoother and more precise. Compare your right hand with mine in the original lessons and you'll see what I mean.

Besides this VERY important thing to work, I think that everything is going ok, it's just a matter of time. I would isolate the different parts and work on 1 riff at a time as a loop to be able to think on the efficiency of your technique instead of the tune. Try it for 1 week and let me know the differences that you note.

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Hey Gab, Thanks for your feedback. I tried it out today and I must say your completely right I am not utilizing my wrist enough at all. I noticed straight away more control and the notes coming out clearer like you said! At the same time its a bit of an adjustment for me so I think its going to take me a awhile to get used to this movement but it will be worth it. I will keep practicing these two at the same tempo this week with the technique adjustments and post you new take then. I am also revisiting the rise against lesson as i never finished that one of probably.

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Hi Philm, great to know that you could get what I mean. Please continue working on these lessons this week having this in mind and keep me updated about your progress. New videos in around 4 days can be a good idea to let me check.

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Hey Gab, Short update... I have been focusing most of my practice time on these two lessons but I haven't managed to get around to recording some takes yet. Hopefully by the middle of next week I should have some new takes done!

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Ok Philm! Thanks for the update! wink.gif

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Hey gab, So I have finally got around to recording takes on the two metalcore lessons. Still plenty of work to do but I have really been focusing on the wrist movements of the right hand over these last days. One of the parts I am really struggling with on the BMTH lesson is the breakdown section. Going from a pinched harmonic to the palm muted parts I find a challenge. Its difficult to change the angle of the thumb quick enough before I get to the palm muted sections.
I will continue practicing these lessons but I don't want to spend as much time on then as I have lately as I haven't had much time to practice anything else. Let me know what you think!

A Day to Remember(100bmp)


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Hi Philm! thanks for this new update.

Both lessons are very similar and I can notice that you are at the same level with both. The two lessons has typical Metalcore rhythms and techniques so covering both is a good way to master this style. I think that your technique is evolving well with these ones and that you just need time of practice to be able to feel more comfortable with this and also to play them faster as it's required.

There are some parts that are giving more trouble than others so it would be more effective to isolate the faster and trickier sections and work on them as a loop. This is much more effective than playing the whole thing over and over and it will help you to have more time to practice other stuff.

There are some little differences in a part of each of the lessons comparing it with my playing / tabs. The first rhythm in ADTR lesson and the second part in BMTH are not totally perfect so please re-check the tabs. You are playing some extra note repetitions.



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Hey Gabs, Thanks for your comments! Your right I am not completely comfortable with these lessons yet . They are proving to be a lot of work and its going to take me a while to get them up to speed. I have looked at the tab and I realized in both lessons the extra notes I was adding. Its easier to play taking those notes away! wink.gif I don't know if I should maybe try to increase the tempo yet. What do you think?

So I will keep working on these lessons focusing on the parts I find difficult but I may start another lesson at the same time because its getting a bit repetitive just practicing these two lessons. I also want to work on the rise against style lesson which I never finished properly.

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