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Gabriel Leopardi
post Jan 22 2014, 12:57 PM
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Hey guys! I hope that every body has a guitar plan assigned, and if not, I wonder why? Contact me an we will design it together. Having an effective plan is fundamental to be sure that your direction is connected with your wished goals.

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In this thread I invite you to share which things you are working nowadays and which are the licks, sections, techniques that are giving you trouble to master a song or a lesson. I'm sure that we can help you with some suggestions, thoughts or extra exercises. smile.gif


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Darius Wave
post Jan 22 2014, 03:16 PM
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I definitely have to improve my "searching for lost picks" technique biggrin.gif Can we have a thread then Gab ?biggrin.gif


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post Jan 22 2014, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 22 2014, 02:16 PM) *
I definitely have to improve my "searching for lost picks" technique biggrin.gif Can we have a thread then Gab ?biggrin.gif

lol! laugh.gif I always put all my picks in a little bag/pouch, its smaller than my palm, and fits very easily into any pocket tongue.gif I have like 12 or 13 picks, since I started learning guitar, I've only ever lost 1 pick laugh.gif

Back to the topic; I've been trying to get a pentatonic lick down, originally taught by David Wallimann in this video:



I practiced it, but couldn't get it to speed up after a while. So I left it :/ I can generally play pretty fast now, but this lick just escapes me.

Oh by the way, I can pretty much nail that lick legato, but not with alternate or economy picking. I do lots of legato so its not much trouble for me, but playing it picked gives it that aggressiveness that I want.

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post Jan 22 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 22 2014, 11:16 AM) *
I definitely have to improve my "searching for lost picks" technique biggrin.gif Can we have a thread then Gab ?biggrin.gif



I think that I know who uses to steal our precious picks...

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Somebody asked this at yahoo answers, and there is another possibly reason...

"The plectrum monster eats them - there's no other explanation."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...15173436AAcALzc




QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM) *
lol! laugh.gif I always put all my picks in a little bag/pouch, its smaller than my palm, and fits very easily into any pocket tongue.gif I have like 12 or 13 picks, since I started learning guitar, I've only ever lost 1 pick laugh.gif

Back to the topic; I've been trying to get a pentatonic lick down, originally taught by David Wallimann in this video:



I practiced it, but couldn't get it to speed up after a while. So I left it :/ I can generally play pretty fast now, but this lick just escapes me.

Oh by the way, I can pretty much nail that lick legato, but not with alternate or economy picking. I do lots of legato so its not much trouble for me, but playing it picked gives it that aggressiveness that I want.



Well that's a pattern very used by Paul Gilbert. The fact that it's using 3 ntoes per string makes you alternate between two ways of crossing strings: outsides and insides..

I wouldn't give up this exercise because it's very effective to improve your AP technique. I would work on groups of two strings as a loop for some weeks and then connect everything together.

In this thread, you will find some info and extra exercises that are directly connected with the one that DAvid shared there: LINK

I wonder if the problem are also the stretches. Let me know if that's the case and I'll give you some other tips.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 22 2014, 04:49 PM) *
Well that's a pattern very used by Paul Gilbert. The fact that it's using 3 ntoes per string makes you alternate between two ways of crossing strings: outsides and insides..

I wouldn't give up this exercise because it's very effective to improve your AP technique. I would work on groups of two strings as a loop for some weeks and then connect everything together.

In this thread, you will find some info and extra exercises that are directly connected with the one that DAvid shared there: LINK

I wonder if the problem are also the stretches. Let me know if that's the case and I'll give you some other tips.


Yeah I'll try practicing it two strings at a time now, and I'll take a look at that thread smile.gif

The problem isn't really the stretch, its the changing fingering in the stretch that bothers me. For example, the sixth string uses (stretched) index, ring and pinky fingers. The fifth, fourth and third strings use index, middle and pinky fingers. Then the second and first use index, ring and pinky again. Its tough for me to change fingers and frets when my fingers are stretched like that (when I reach the G string, there's a change of frets in the scale). So its not really the stretch that's causing the trouble, its the changing fingers in the stretch that's causing trouble because its unusual to me.


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post Jan 22 2014, 10:37 PM
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I think that the problem can be finger independence. There are many exercises to improve this. I started a thread some weeks ago about this topic with a video, and then everybody shared interesting stuff so I think that you will find it very useful.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=50932

Please let me know what you think of it.


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post Jan 23 2014, 03:36 PM
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I'm working on two things that I'm having trouble with.

The first is outside picking; I want to be able to alternate pick 16th note triplets at 130bpm. I can do this while switching strings with inside picking, but not with outside picking. Outside picking tops out at 110bpm, making it significantly slower, but it's also less stable. Even at lower speeds, whilst I can execute it, it doesn't feel as easy. I've been hammering this with practice every day for ages, with no real improvements.

The second is the fast section in the first distorted solo in Eric Johnson's Manhattan (the live G3 version, as this section is different to the recorded version). Because of the way the lick is structured I find my fingers get tangled on each other and I can't get it anywhere near the right speed.

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post Jan 23 2014, 03:50 PM
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Very clever idea Gab. I'm sure that's exactly what happens with our picks smile.gif


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post Jan 23 2014, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (AdamB @ Jan 23 2014, 11:36 AM) *
I'm working on two things that I'm having trouble with.

The first is outside picking; I want to be able to alternate pick 16th note triplets at 130bpm. I can do this while switching strings with inside picking, but not with outside picking. Outside picking tops out at 110bpm, making it significantly slower, but it's also less stable. Even at lower speeds, whilst I can execute it, it doesn't feel as easy. I've been hammering this with practice every day for ages, with no real improvements.

The second is the fast section in the first distorted solo in Eric Johnson's Manhattan (the live G3 version, as this section is different to the recorded version). Because of the way the lick is structured I find my fingers get tangled on each other and I can't get it anywhere near the right speed.

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Hi mate! You're not the only one that has problems crossing strings with outsides. It's something tricky for many of us which requires specific practice to be mastered. I shared some very effective exercises during my Vchat sessions. Please check lessons 6, 12 and 13 from my Intensive Technique Course, and incorporate the outside picking exercises into your diary practice.

Regarding that lick by Eric, could you post here a video of you trying to play the lick? maybe at slow tempo?


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Ok will post a video over the weekend!
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post Jan 28 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (AdamB @ Jan 25 2014, 08:30 AM) *
Ok will post a video over the weekend!


Ok! I will wait for the video, please let me know when it's done!


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