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post Jul 10 2007, 01:49 AM
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For those not in the know, the Roskilde Festival is one of the largest music festivals in Europe - and was a muddy mess this year - the worst since it started in 1971. Example - this is usually grass:

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... and no, there's not supposed to be a lake here:

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... or here... Actually lost an old acoustic guitar in the muddy "lake" one day - plump mellow.gif

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Anyway, things got better through the course of Saturday and Sunday. Almost looks idyllic (and as usual at Roskilde, it is) smile.gif

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So, Muse... As some will know, our band does covers in addition to original songs - lots of Muse covers, covering most of their entire repertoire. Some cover bands have a blessing in that the band they cover really don't do too well on the stage compared to in the studio, so they can actually at times give a better concert than the real thing. Not so here tongue.gif

Muse was utterly, astoundingly, flabbergastingly amazing.

Anyway, Muse held - or so it looked to me (and some friends who were further in the back) - the entire audience of 60.000+ at the Orange stage in check for 1 hour 40-or-so minutes. Every song anyone could have wished for (except Bliss and Hyper Music) was there. As mentioned in another thread, I'm not a big fan of Black Holes and Revelations - but in a live setting those songs suddenly sound much more ingenious, and comparable to the earlier albums, while still bringing lots of new stuff.

Matt showed that he is an underrated guitar player, even if he's rated high (by some of us) - tapped solo in New Born was astonishing, Knights of Cydonia was such a meticulously crafted wall of sound that I'm finally beginning to like it.

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His singing was out of this world - I've heard lots and lots of live recordings, and seen their live shows a few times before, but now I have a new standard to live up to - not least in Feeling Good (which was so beautifully done and so perfectly phrased I could have cried biggrin.gif).

And Dominic and Chris did their part and more - constantly being so accurate in tone and dynamics that everything just clicked while allowing room for spontaneousness. All in all, they let out a sound more powerful than many a metal band who have played on this demanding stage.

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(a look away from the stage right before the encore started - some day I'd like to say, "that's taken from the Orange stage right before our encore" wink.gif)

Most people I talked to during the night after the last concert agreed that this was by far the best concert of this year (although, to be fair, the standard was pretty low this year). Some said it was the best they'd heard at Roskilde ever. I wouldn't go quite so far - there's lots of acts - also (or especially) on the smaller stages - in the past 15 years, that have such a fond memory of, I can't pick a favorite. But it's up there.

Oh, I should also mention that The Who still rock to this day smile.gif

Any great festival experiences for others this year? smile.gif


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post Jul 12 2007, 07:13 PM
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post Jul 12 2007, 08:08 PM
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wow! that looks awesome! i wish we had that kind of stuff here at my country! but the last pics are great!!


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post Jul 12 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:08 PM) *
wow! that looks awesome! i wish we had that kind of stuff here at my country! but the last pics are great!!


Every country should have at least one big music festival smile.gif There's so many things I love about Roskilde, I'd make a new record in post length listing them, but they include:

- the coolest, friendliest, laid back atmosphere (been at festivals from Glastonbury to Pinkpop, and never found anything even close to it)

- a phenomenal diversity - music from electronica over metal and punk to classic rock (excluding "pure" pop), and from non-signed acts to the biggest names; non-music acts from theatre, film, poetry, dance etc.

- very international - mostly, at least 50% are from outside Denmark, and probably 30-40% outside Scandinavia - England, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, even Australia and South America.

- extremely well organized.

I've been there every year for the past 15 years - even the few years where the music programme has been sub par, it's been amazing. All years, except for one, which some of the older crowd here probably remember. The tragedy in 2000, when 9 people from Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany and Australia died during a Pearl Jam concert on the Orange stage.

I'll never forget that concert or the days following it. An utterly senseless nightmare that'll never go away. sad.gif The first thing my friends and I do when we get onto the festival site is to spend time at the memorial grove the festival made close to the Orange stage. It's a strange feeling every year.

Nothing even close to it has happened before or since. The festival have upped - and constantly revised - their crowd security since then, without in any way lessening what should be (and is) fun. The atmosphere has changed for the better - since then, people have been more helpful and protective of each other.

All in all, go start an initiative for a rock festival in Honduras, FretDancer smile.gif It's an essential part of life.

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post Jul 13 2007, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (Kaneda @ Jul 12 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Every country should have at least one big music festival smile.gif There's so many things I love about Roskilde, I'd make a new record in post length listing them, but they include:

- the coolest, friendliest, laid back atmosphere (been at festivals from Glastonbury to Pinkpop, and never found anything even close to it)

- a phenomenal diversity - music from electronica over metal and punk to classic rock (excluding "pure" pop), and from non-signed acts to the biggest names; non-music acts from theatre, film, poetry, dance etc.

- very international - mostly, at least 50% are from outside Denmark, and probably 30-40% outside Scandinavia - England, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, even Australia and South America.

- extremely well organized.

I've been there every year for the past 15 years - even the few years where the music programme has been sub par, it's been amazing. All years, except for one, which some of the older crowd here probably remember. The tragedy in 2000, when 9 people from Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany and Australia died during a Pearl Jam concert on the Orange stage.

I'll never forget that concert or the days following it. An utterly senseless nightmare that'll never go away. sad.gif The first thing my friends and I do when we get onto the festival site is to spend time at the memorial grove the festival made close to the Orange stage. It's a strange feeling every year.

Nothing even close to it has happened before or since. The festival have upped - and constantly revised - their crowd security since then, without in any way lessening what should be (and is) fun. The atmosphere has changed for the better - since then, people have been more helpful and protective of each other.

All in all, go start an initiative for a rock festival in Honduras, FretDancer smile.gif It's an essential part of life.


yeah i guess i should take initiative! but its gonna be so hard trying to change whats Reggaeton, Rap and all that stuff that people nowadays like. But yea i think thats a good goal, arrange a rock Festival!! sounds awesome!

And about the tragic event, i never heard of it, can you explain me what happened...if its ok with you of course.

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post Jul 13 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Jul 13 2007, 02:14 AM) *
yeah i guess i should take initiative! but its gonna be so hard trying to change whats Reggaeton, Rap and all that stuff that people nowadays like. But yea i think thats a good goal, arrange a rock Festival!! sounds awesome!


There's reggaeton and rap at Roskilde too (although I rarely go to the rap concerts, reggaeton isn't as much of a popular genre here). smile.gif

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And about the tragic event, i never heard of it, can you explain me what happened...if its ok with you of course.


Well, I'll give my full account rather than link to a news clip, because, while long, this is still important today, and the more people are aware of what ruthless behaviour at such an event can lead to, the better for all of us. But I have to warn, it's not a nice story. sad.gif

Pearl Jam was scheduled to play at the Orange stage on the Friday at 10:30 in the evening. And so they did, and everything was pretty normal. Crowd security was on the spot, as always. It had rained, and the area was muddy, as it had been several times before. It was very very crowdy near the front of the stage, as it always was back then. So crowdy that you'd often find yourself over time involuntarily moving 50 feet or more towards mid-stage no matter where you started out, as long as it was in front.

But we were enjoying the concert even though the crowd rushed harder against the stage each minute. I think some people mentioned they were annoyed that the speakers in the rear of the area didn't work, and since there were no real barriers at that time, everyone was free to push their way all the way up to the stage.

Some people fell over - we helped them up, which wasn't easy with people standing so close that you pretty much had 6 or 7 people's shoulders pushing you from all sides - most of the time we were out of balance too. At that point I was just glad we were a bit away from front mid-stage, where it could only be worse.

Around an hour into the concert, Eddie Vedder stopped the music, told us that the next 5 minutes would have nothing to do with music, but it was very very important - he told people to stand back, give some room to the people up front, because people were getting hurt. People stepped back - for about half a minute.

When we felt the pressure coming on again, we decided it was time to get out - a friend of mine shouted to a crowd safety guard that they had to shut this concert down completely, right now. Heard some security announcer tell the people again, to quietly step back.

We only got about 20 feet away from where we were, when we heard screaming from right in front of the stage. Looked up towards the stage - heard Eddie Vedder, clearly in tears, say "Well, f*** you guys", then he squatted down on the stage.

I'd like to be able to say, like in a movie, that it's all blank after that, but it isn't. Could describe the next hour very clearly, but I wouldn't like to, on a forum which has young visitors, and this is quite enough: 8 men between 17 and 23 or 24 died right there, being crushed under the crowd or suffocated. One died a few days later in the hospital.

The blamefest started the day after and hasn't really ended. Some blamed the festival management, who could have stopped the concert earlier, had better crowd safety etc. But other, honest, festival leaders admitted that it might as well have happened at their festival, and that Roskilde actually was probably one of the safest festivals in the world. Some weeks later, people (including the police mellow.gif) started blaming Pearl Jam, who, in my opinion as someone who was close by, did everything they should - and much much more, everything they could - to try and prevent this from happening.

The festival crowd safety has been much improved - to the point where I'm confident in saying it won't ever happen again (it must never happen again). Pearl Jam are still affected by it to this day. Until this year, they haven't played any festivals. We went to their first (indoor) concert in Denmark since the festival a few weeks ago, and the band had invited the families of the ones who died - they've been in contact with them for the past 7 years. Vedder talked very emotionally about the tragedy and the people who died.

I'd say the blame for the accident, if there is any, falls almost entirely on the crowd - that would include myself. If everyone had been a bit less selfish and ruthless and thoughtful, it wouldn't have happened. Thankfully, people know that by now - not just those of us who were there. I've talked to lots of new festival goers, and since that year everyone has been much more aware of taking care of each other.

Countless times since then, I've seen people slip and immediately have 7 or 8 people standing in a circle around them keeping the rest of the crowd back to allow them to get up. Which is possible because the festival has put up fences, limiting how many can get into the front.

As you can see from the photos, it's not exactly deserted in the front, but there's an infinity of room compared to 2000 - makes things very very safe, and yet doesn't detract from the "community" of going to a concert (actually adds to it). Lots of other festivals have done the same since then.

We were hesitant to return the next year, it felt very very strange, but the atmosphere really had changed, and life does to on, however cynical that may seem. And with security and atmosphere and circumstances changed, there really is nothing more life affirming than rock festivals smile.gif - however strange it may sound right after all the stuff I wrote above.

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post Jul 13 2007, 11:33 AM
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WOW this is an awesome post Kaneda blink.gif biggrin.gif - I liked the fact that you showed all the different aspects of the festival from the mud to the sunny gigs!

We should definately have a concert review board! Would anybody else be interested in this?


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post Jul 13 2007, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 13 2007, 12:33 PM) *
WOW this is an awesome post Kaneda blink.gif biggrin.gif - I liked the fact that you showed all the different aspects of the festival from the mud to the sunny gigs!

We should definately have a concert review board! Would anybody else be interested in this?


Thanks Kris smile.gif - well, I live for this festival, for better or worse... And I felt we needed to see some sunshine, since all the media had were the mud photos wink.gif And I often prefer concert reviews to CD reviews, because even if the reviewer doesn't like the band, he may turn out to like the concert smile.gif I know that happened a lot with the Muse concert.

Oh, I'll add one thing about the atmosphere here, because the previous post got devilishly long...

The most baffling (and wonderful) thing about the Roskilde festival is this:

The town of Roskilde has about 40000 inhabitants

The Roskilde festival each year has 76000 paying attendees + about 30000 volunteer workers

That's over 100000 people gathered in an area of around 220 acres (40 acres for the actual festival area - the rest is camping areas)

Yet there's less crime/violence in the course of the festival than during a typical weekend in Roskilde.

Other than 2000, I've never witnessed any violence whatsoever - this year 1 incident was reported to the police (and a lot of theft - that's another story - still, about 40 police reports over a week of festival)

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post Jul 13 2007, 12:47 PM
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This is awesome - what a positive event! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 13 2007, 12:33 PM) *
We should definately have a concert review board! Would anybody else be interested in this?

Definitly! I only have one fresh one, with pictures. But I have some I can recreate from memory. Well, I could try atleast. I've never been good at details.


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 13 2007, 01:47 PM) *
This is awesome - what a positive event! biggrin.gif


You should go next year, Kris! smile.gif Not that far from Stockholm, after all - it's like 5 hours by train to Copenhagen, then 20 minutes to get to Roskilde smile.gif
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QUOTE (Kaneda @ Jul 13 2007, 03:29 PM) *
You should go next year, Kris! smile.gif Not that far from Stockholm, after all - it's like 5 hours by train to Copenhagen, then 20 minutes to get to Roskilde smile.gif


Yes not a bad idea- I have never been to a "real" rock festival. smile.gif


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Yea I definitely like the idea of a concert review board!

by the way, great posts Kaneda. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Pantalaimon @ Jul 17 2007, 09:46 PM) *
Yea I definitely like the idea of a concert review board!

by the way, great posts Kaneda. smile.gif


Heh, this wasn't really a concert review like the subtitle indicated - more a way of writing down some thoughts right after the festival. Could have been much more detailed (and then left out some of the sidenote stuff). I considered retitling the thread right after posting it, to just "Festivals" or something, since I wanted it to be more about festival experiences in general (then I found you can't retitle threads wink.gif). But whatever. smile.gif

And then some ripping up of the past in the last couple of weeks spawned the third of the lengthy posts. FretDancer just gave me a much needed excuse to write about it (thanks for that, FD smile.gif)

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Yes not a bad idea- I have never been to a "real" rock festival. smile.gif


You totally should go. Besides, we could use some mature Swedes to show certain other Swedes that it's not just about getting cheaper alcohol and being generally annoying. wink.gif

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Too far away to go to! I wish I could go to Mudslide!


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In Flames was amazing too, but the sound of Orange stage wasn't for some reason not especially good at that concert...
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Now that's a festival to remember man, great review, and I specially like the shots! smile.gif


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Heh, strange to see this dug up again, on the one day I show up. smile.gif

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In Flames was amazing too, but the sound of Orange stage wasn't for some reason not especially good at that concert...


Yeah, the Orange stage has always been inconsistent -- sometimes great sound, sometimes awful -- although they seem to have tightened it up a lot in the past years.

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Now that's a festival to remember man, great review, and I specially like the shots! smile.gif


Every Roskilde is a festival to remember. smile.gif

Thanks Ivan, but again, was never really intended as a review wink.gif

So, Kris, going this year? smile.gif There are still tickets left -- probably will be until it opens -- that's how it tends to be the year after a "flood".
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Awesome review. There are a lot of amazing festivals in Europe...
while I'm here in South America... sad.gif


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That Muse Concert was probably the greatest experience of my life biggrin.gif

Ecxept for the other muse koncert i've been to in Forum Copenhagen laugh.gif


@ Kaneda: Roskilde sidste år var for sindssygt! biggrin.gif jeg er stolt over at kunne sige at jeg overlevede alle dagene laugh.gif
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