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post Jan 28 2015, 09:19 AM
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Hi guys!

Reviving the topic, i think there is a style which uses a lot of nice guitar licks and has a very typical sound: bachata! And it's very popular nowadays. Check this videos, focusing on the guitars wink.gif

Of course Enrique Iglesias... Acoustic guitar + electric at 0:47


Almost 500.000.000 views for Prince Royce


More than 500.000.000 views on the next one (guitar starts at 0:47)!


On all 3 songs the guitar part is pretty nice, not too technical but with enough tricks to spend some time learning it! A "bachata" style class will be a must, don't you think?


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post Jan 28 2015, 01:36 PM
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Hi mate, thanks for this request! This is a very good idea that I'll add to my list. Great to find some Spanish lyrics stuff here. smile.gif


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post Jan 28 2015, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 28 2015, 12:36 PM) *
Hi mate, thanks for this request! This is a very good idea that I'll add to my list. Great to find some Spanish lyrics stuff here. smile.gif


And playing bachata greatly enhance your possibilities to impress girls tongue.gif


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post Jan 28 2015, 03:36 PM
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Chord Melody, I mean I can fingerpick a melody and accompaniment in more of a folk guitarist kind of way, but with Jazz type chords it's really the only Jazz I like (I do like some others like gypsy jazz) it's now that I'm attempting to start learning the chords used in Jazz comping and understanding the approach to jazz comping and trying to tackle some Ted Greene arrangements.

It's a really slow process.


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post Jan 28 2015, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jan 28 2015, 06:36 AM) *
Chord Melody, I'm attempting to start learning the chords used in Jazz comping and understanding the approach to jazz comping and trying to tackle some Ted Greene arrangements.


If you have any questions regarding the TG stuff, ask me. I studied with him.


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post Jan 28 2015, 04:57 PM
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The jealousy I'm feeling right now is unreal. I'm so glad there are so many youtube clips people have made available of him teaching


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post Jan 28 2015, 06:45 PM
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Do you go to the website? ... http://tedgreene.com/
All that stuff in the lessons area is compiled by his former students. As a teacher he had no equal.
Not a day goes by where I don't think about something he said to me.

The album 'Solo Guitar' is his best recorded work and a must have if you dig chord melody.
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Guitar-Ted-Greene/dp/B0007CNXQ4

The best book of the 4 he wrote is 'Modern chord Progressions' - http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Chord-Progres...rd+progressions


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post Jan 29 2015, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 28 2015, 05:45 PM) *
Do you go to the website? ... http://tedgreene.com/
All that stuff in the lessons area is compiled by his former students. As a teacher he had no equal.
Not a day goes by where I don't think about something he said to me.

The album 'Solo Guitar' is his best recorded work and a must have if you dig chord melody.
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-Guitar-Ted-Greene/dp/B0007CNXQ4

The best book of the 4 he wrote is 'Modern chord Progressions' - http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Chord-Progres...rd+progressions


I go to Tedgreene.com quite regularly that place is an absolute goldmine. I have all the recordings of him that I can find, and of course Chord Chemistry and Modern Chord Progressions. I just wish my fingers would bend and stretch more easily!

I've started working on Send in the clowns, very slowly!!!


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post Jan 29 2015, 02:40 PM
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Hey guys! This talk is turning really cool! Klasaine, you have a great talent playing chord melody, and now I've just noticed that you studied with one of the masters!

What do you recommend to players who like chord melody but don't have experience with it? Which are the first steps? How was your journey?


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post Jan 29 2015, 04:18 PM
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In the beginning ...

1) Pick a song that has some harmonic motion to it. *2 or 3 chord songs are difficult to translate to a solo instrumental arrangement. Certainly not impossible, just harder. The more chords (harmony/motion) the easier to keep and add interest to the arrangement.
2)Learn the chords and melody separately.
3) In 'general' try to keep the melody on the top 3 strings (G, B and E) so you can have some harmony below.
4) Learn the notes that make up the chords so that you can re-arrange the voicings. This is helpful when the melody is a chord tone that is not usually on top (the highest note) of the chord - which is much of the time.
5) Listen to as many different versions of the song as possible (vocal, instrumental, etc). Steal the ideas that you like.
6) Learn as much as you can about harmony (more of a long-term process - TG knew more about harmony than any other musician I've ever met).

*All these suggestions are just that - suggestions. I actually don't play anything like Ted Greene when I do a chord melody arrangement.

'My journey' was an unintentional one. I always loved and still do love playing in a band with other musicians. Playing solo evolved from my love of melody and harmony. And probably from the fact that I'm a really lousy singer ... but I want to play 'songs' laugh.gif

If anybody has specific questions I'll be happy to talk about it.

**I love the Bachata stuff. It reminds me a bit of Mexican guitar feature bands like 'Trio Los Panchos' from the 50/60s.
'Sin Ti' and 'Perdida' were big hits even in the States ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDme9SBjfec...Dme9SBjfec#t=10 Tons of 'lead' guitar in these tunes.

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post Jan 29 2015, 08:54 PM
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Country. Bottleneck and anything by this master below, though I feel I am light years away from doing anything like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a2P-fJhN7U




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXXh24HnmY




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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 29 2015, 12:18 PM) *
In the beginning ...

1) Pick a song that has some harmonic motion to it. *2 or 3 chord songs are difficult to translate to a solo instrumental arrangement. Certainly not impossible, just harder. The more chords (harmony/motion) the easier to keep and add interest to the arrangement.
2)Learn the chords and melody separately.
3) In 'general' try to keep the melody on the top 3 strings (G, B and E) so you can have some harmony below.
4) Learn the notes that make up the chords so that you can re-arrange the voicings. This is helpful when the melody is a chord tone that is not usually on top (the highest note) of the chord - which is much of the time.
5) Listen to as many different versions of the song as possible (vocal, instrumental, etc). Steal the ideas that you like.
6) Learn as much as you can about harmony (more of a long-term process - TG knew more about harmony than any other musician I've ever met).

*All these suggestions are just that - suggestions. I actually don't play anything like Ted Greene when I do a chord melody arrangement.

'My journey' was an unintentional one. I always loved and still do love playing in a band with other musicians. Playing solo evolved from my love of melody and harmony. And probably from the fact that I'm a really lousy singer ... but I want to play 'songs' laugh.gif

If anybody has specific questions I'll be happy to talk about it.

**I love the Bachata stuff. It reminds me a bit of Mexican guitar feature bands like 'Trio Los Panchos' from the 50/60s.
'Sin Ti' and 'Perdida' were big hits even in the States ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDme9SBjfec...Dme9SBjfec#t=10 Tons of 'lead' guitar in these tunes.




Fantastic stuff, this tips deserve a workout! I wonder if there are some students interest in starting this journey of re-arranging song. It would be really cool to follow a thread based on this.


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post Jan 31 2015, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 31 2015, 08:21 AM) *
Fantastic stuff, this tips deserve a workout! I wonder if there are some students interest in starting this journey of re-arranging song. It would be really cool to follow a thread based on this.


If that happens I would be more than happy to informally assist in the thread (if that's cool with the GMC admins - ?).




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