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Bogdan Radovic
post May 12 2014, 10:02 PM
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Do you know of any albums which have a bit extreme mixes?

This album seems to have noticeable panning of instruments in the mix:



Also this album by RHCP seems to have guitars hard panned and feels a bit "different" :



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post May 12 2014, 10:48 PM
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Interesting you picked that RHCP album; their guitarist liked the hard panning of old Beatles albums and wanted to emulate it, and something to do with no phase cancellation.

Anything from before 1970s, Beach Boys etc. will have hard panning due to technical limitations of 2/3 track tape machines. In order to get round the track limit they would bounce down tracks they recorded to a single track and keep adding to it, e.g. they would end up with vocals and bass guitar on one track; guitars and drums on another.


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post May 12 2014, 11:06 PM
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GnR panned their guitars hard left and right back in the day. Slash on the right and Izzy/Gilby on the left.


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post May 12 2014, 11:37 PM
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Early Van Halen...

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post May 13 2014, 12:11 AM
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I have a friend who is a huge John Frusciante fan, I didn't examine yet but pretty interesting albums. I guess he's the guy who influenced RHCP albums pannings, also Imy friend said he is against mastering;



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post May 13 2014, 01:21 AM
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This is a very interesting topic. I was very surprised the first time I heard this album and noticed how it was panned. Pappo is Argentinean blues guitar hero. Check this album from 1973:



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post May 13 2014, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ May 12 2014, 02:02 PM) *
Do you know of any albums which have a bit extreme mixes?

This album seems to have noticeable panning of instruments in the mix:



The stereo release of Rubber Soul was done after the fact. The band wasn't even there and it was done really quickly only because (in '65) there were some folks that had 'STEREO' receivers and amps. The band, EMI and even George Martin didn't think that stereo was that important yet (even up through Sgt. Pepper) as most people only had monophonic systems and radios were still only mono.

The version you want to hear is the original 1965 MONO mix.


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post May 13 2014, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ May 13 2014, 12:25 AM) *
The stereo release of Rubber Soul was done after the fact. The band wasn't even there and it was done really quickly only because (in '65) there were some folks that had 'STEREO' receivers and amps. The band, EMI and even George Martin didn't think that stereo was that important yet (even up through Sgt. Pepper) as most people only had monophonic systems and radios were still only mono.

The version you want to hear is the original 1965 MONO mix.


Exactly. If you want to know more about how most Beatles recordings were made than Mark Lewisohn's 'The complete Beatles recording sessions' is a great read. Actually it's a great read if you're interested at all in analogue recording.

A little OT - if you listen to a lot of recordings first in stereo and then in mono you may hear some things dissappear in some of them rolleyes.gif . Always mono check a mix.


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post May 13 2014, 06:14 PM
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As mentioned, most stuff before 1970 was hard panned. I love it. The early Funkadelic albums did some wild stuff with panning and their production.

TW Walsh put out an album that is rad. Drums on one side, bass on the other.

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