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post May 14 2014, 09:01 PM
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i would like help from our instructors, i feel i need more direction in composing, curently i can put chords together and create a melody, and simple solos, over my progression and simple leads. i have been practicing scales and learning to use different chords away from the typical major and minor chords (adding the 9th, 7th, and suspended) im having problems trying to find the right place to use these, alond with diminished chords, for the week to come i have set a plan to try to learn my triads memorize triads all over the fretboard.
i want to become fluid at writing unique tunes away from typical progressions, i want to be more colorful .i want to be able to move from lead to rythym back to lead creating melodies in between chords, or creating rythym using melodies, i dont know if im making scence right now tongue.gif think bands like atreyu and avenge sevenfold and killswitch engage, and in flames, and how guitarist like hendrix and philip sayce are able to break away from the typical mold of chord bashing and then adding the typical penatonic solo. i want direction to hopefully become as unique as i could be and i need help understanding how to put these together.
im studing therory but need help putting this togther, as im starting to feel im buried in books and im just kind of like, how the hell do i use this? cosmin or gabe can we tackle this and start i menor thread and start out basic and slow, do you have any ideas?
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Cosmin Lupu
post May 15 2014, 10:40 AM
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Hey mate smile.gif

In general, a good approach, after understanding the structure of a scale, harmonizing it and building various chords, alongside typical progressions, would be to see various progression examples applied in GMC lessons - it's all about enriching your vocabulary, until you will be able to come up with your own, let's say more complex stuff.

We can work together on this - I recommend some lessons, you learn the chord progression and see the scale at work, thus learning a new progression each time and then, why not - transposition can be of great help - learning how to play that progression in each tonality!


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post May 15 2014, 11:02 AM
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Hi man, have you actually tried writing some pieces of music yet ?

I know it sounds obvious but the best way to learn how to write is to write.. even if you write stuff that is 'normal' at first it doesn't matter because you've still got to exercise your writing muscles.

I guarantee you none of those players just went straight to the guitar with no compositional practise and just wrote great stuff straight away, it's not possible.

You've been putting in a lot of time with theory which is good but right now the last thing you need is to to add even more of the same. The reasons we get into a rut is because we're doing the same things with no differing results. So a change is needed to give you some freshness and inspiration.

Just write. Try not to think and theorise your way around it. I know it's easy for me to say this stuff as you're the one going through it.. but I promise you this is the key. Don't think about it or read about it for a while.. just do it smile.gif


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post May 15 2014, 03:14 PM
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Hi friend, that's a very interesting goal. You will be able to achieve it but you have to be patient and enjoy the process. This is not something totally related to technique, you are talking about finding your unique style based on your personality. It's very good to learn theory but don't be obsessive with it, it can become negative to learn a lot of theory without knowing how to use it. It's very important that you start creating your own compositions the sooner possible, applying the concepts that you already know, and trusting in your mind, ear and feelings.

I usually work on composition with students at my personal board, so if you are interested, you are invited. Just write me a PM. wink.gif


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post May 16 2014, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 15 2014, 09:40 AM) *
Hey mate smile.gif

In general, a good approach, after understanding the structure of a scale, harmonizing it and building various chords, alongside typical progressions, would be to see various progression examples applied in GMC lessons - it's all about enriching your vocabulary, until you will be able to come up with your own, let's say more complex stuff.

We can work together on this - I recommend some lessons, you learn the chord progression and see the scale at work, thus learning a new progression each time and then, why not - transposition can be of great help - learning how to play that progression in each tonality!

Ok see you mean when going through lessons learn the progressions to see how they work with the progressions scales and in different keys, makes sence that it would build my vocabulary, be having a library of chords and there progressions that could be used in different circumstances.

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *
Hi man, have you actually tried writing some pieces of music yet ?

I know it sounds obvious but the best way to learn how to write is to write.. even if you write stuff that is 'normal' at first it doesn't matter because you've still got to exercise your writing muscles.

I guarantee you none of those players just went straight to the guitar with no compositional practise and just wrote great stuff straight away, it's not possible.

You've been putting in a lot of time with theory which is good but right now the last thing you need is to to add even more of the same. The reasons we get into a rut is because we're doing the same things with no differing results. So a change is needed to give you some freshness and inspiration.

Just write. Try not to think and theorise your way around it. I know it's easy for me to say this stuff as you're the one going through it.. but I promise you this is the key. Don't think about it or read about it for a while.. just do it smile.gif

Thanks Ben, great points here. Just dive in a go. Best way to learn. Try to apply what I've learned and don't throw more on my plate than I can digest at the time.
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post May 16 2014, 02:26 PM
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Exactly man! smile.gif If you wish, we can start working on that together - just PM me so that we can establish the details smile.gif


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