Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Left Hand Ache
steve25
post Jul 13 2007, 11:43 AM
Post #1


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.197
Joined: 19-April 07
From: Wiltshire, England
Member No.: 1.626



Today while trying to play i've noticed i;m getting a left hand ache at the left side of my wrist is this normal? It doesn't hurt yet but it's just really uncomfortable do you think i should just stop playing for a day or so? I haven't changed my playing ways at all and this is the first time it's happened. It's as if i've had my hand in an awkward position for an hour or so but all i've been doing is just playing guitar.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Muris Varajic
post Jul 13 2007, 11:50 AM
Post #2


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.459
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Sarajevo,Bosnia
Member No.: 2.159



You should probably take a small break when you notice pain like that.
Important is to get warm-up before playing or practicing.
Otherwise you may hurt yourself pretty bad and be out of shape for some time.


--------------------
Youtube
MySpace
Website



Album "Let It Out" on
iTunes
and CD Baby

Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Pianist
tune is progress,check it out!

"ok.. it is great.. :P

have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Robin
post Jul 13 2007, 12:47 PM
Post #3


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2.483
Joined: 9-January 07
From: Alta, Norway
Member No.: 1.061



QUOTE (muris @ Jul 13 2007, 10:50 AM) *
You should probably take a small break when you notice pain like that.
Important is to get warm-up before playing or practicing.
Otherwise you may hurt yourself pretty bad and be out of shape for some time.

Indeed.


I've also had some pain in my fingers/wrists, a couple of days rest is good.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
steve25
post Jul 13 2007, 03:31 PM
Post #4


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.197
Joined: 19-April 07
From: Wiltshire, England
Member No.: 1.626



Ok well i'm at work this weekend anyway so i guess i can go today with out guitar.... only just though
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Travelin' Man
post Jul 13 2007, 04:03 PM
Post #5


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 179
Joined: 10-July 07
From: Pa. USA
Member No.: 2.284



I noticed, playing the scales, that my picking wrist is starting to hurt. Is this normal? Maybe its due to spending over an hour on practicing?


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andrew Cockburn
post Jul 13 2007, 04:24 PM
Post #6


Moderation Policy Director
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 10.459
Joined: 6-February 07
From: CT, USA
Member No.: 1.167



QUOTE (Travelin' Man @ Jul 13 2007, 11:03 AM) *
I noticed, playing the scales, that my picking wrist is starting to hurt. Is this normal? Maybe its due to spending over an hour on practicing?


Ok, I'm going to jump right in here ...

I'm expecting the younger guys will start in with popsts saying they practice 93 hours a day and get no pain smile.gif I suspect that its a lot easier when you are younger to practice and play for longer periods of time. I'm 40, and radically increasing the amount of playing I did about a year ago has given me some problems in this area.

It pays to be careful here - an hour isn;t a lot of practice by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a lot if this is somehting you ahven;t done a lot of recently, and as we get older it gets harder to pick up new stuff, the body is less flexible etc.

So, be careful, if you get pain taht isn;t just straight forward tiredness then rest or you could harm yourself!


--------------------
Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ...

My Stuff:

Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass
Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon
Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood
Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
steve25
post Jul 13 2007, 04:33 PM
Post #7


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.197
Joined: 19-April 07
From: Wiltshire, England
Member No.: 1.626



Are you trying to say i'm old Andrew! laugh.gif no but seriously i know what you mean. I hadn't been practicing for that long i think what it was is i didn't do any warm ups or i haven't been doing warmups and started practicing you know my speed limit trying to get faster that might have caused pain so i'm leaving it for the weekend for my wrist to heal
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mattacuk
post Jul 13 2007, 04:36 PM
Post #8


Lets go fishing!
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 5.526
Joined: 21-December 06
From: illinois
Member No.: 1.001



Hey dudes,
I noticed this thread because as some GMC members will remember ive been complaining of "left hand ach" for months. After a chat with Kris i decided to shuffle my routine around!

I used to start of with doing an hours sweep-picking to metronome and I found by the time i got to my alternate picking practice my left hand ached so bad i was often forced to give up the session premature.

Not only did my left hand ache but my index finger started locking up into "U-shape" blink.gif

I really couldnt see what i was doing wrong as my playing sounded great, and i was doing everything ive been told to do!

Anyway, Now i start of my session with some gentle improvisation - I generally start of playing gently and slowly build the speed of my chops up.

Then I move onto my Alternate picking practice which is done at a faster pace.

The last part of my session i go all out on Sweep arpeggios by which time my hand now feels warm and ready! laugh.gif

Ive found my left hand ache has dropped to almost nothing! So what im trying to say is, just take a look at your own routine and see if your going too fast - too soon! cool.gif

P.S Im 26 so im about Kris's age i think? tongue.gif


--------------------
mysql> SELECT * FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert'));


"The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Travelin' Man
post Jul 13 2007, 04:50 PM
Post #9


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 179
Joined: 10-July 07
From: Pa. USA
Member No.: 2.284



Thats so true Andrew....'specially since arthritis has attacked my old body.
My 1st attempt at learning guitar was put on hold when I was younger, and I refuse to let something else get in my way now. Call me stubborn, or just an old gov't mule, but a little pain wont stop me...just a respite now and than..thnx for the incite on aging laugh.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jeff
post Jul 13 2007, 04:51 PM
Post #10


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 877
Joined: 25-April 06
From: Virginia, US
Member No.: 706



Anytime you feel pain in your wrist you should hit yourself in the knee with a hammer. You'll forget all about your wrist pain and you can continue to practice. laugh.gif

Seriously though, what do you guys do when you say you "warm up" before you practice? Do you mean you do some kind of wrist or hand stretching? I have always just grabbed the guitar and started playing. I get "warmed up" as I go and after an hour or so, I am nimble enough to play fairly well.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mattacuk
post Jul 13 2007, 06:54 PM
Post #11


Lets go fishing!
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 5.526
Joined: 21-December 06
From: illinois
Member No.: 1.001



jeff, i improvise over a backing track to get warmed up. I cant go straight into speed picking / sweeping without it! smile.gif


--------------------
mysql> SELECT * FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert'));


"The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MickeM
post Jul 13 2007, 07:07 PM
Post #12


Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader
*

Group: Members
Posts: 8.562
Joined: 9-January 07
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Member No.: 1.062



My post is going to be slightly off track here but I just noticed how weak my hands were. I've been doing some blue collar labor here at home lately, carpenting, and my wrists and fingers have been aching ...not from striking my fingers with the hammer... well that too but anyway.
My work is like 8 hours by a laptop, or I rather extended it to 9 hours caus of this forum steals some time laugh.gif and this work doesn't really strengthen the muscles.
But after my carpenting, digging holes, moving rocks around, pulling up stubs (no it's not a summer job, I'm too old for that, it's gardening and "vacation") for a period of time now, like a little every night for a months time, I can feel my hands getting bulked. Like I had to take off the wedding ring since it went from lose to being too tight.
And after all this I have been thinking I couldn't be able to play with my hands and fingers becoming rough... On the contuary, I havn't practiced any of the lessons lately (no time) but I picked up the guitar to play some old stuff and boy... speed, accuracy and stamina has increased while doing no practice at all, just hard labor.

So I'm definitly (after rebuilding is finished) set up my old gym and start lifting weights again. I found that hand and finger strength is one key.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
funkymilk
post Jul 14 2007, 01:13 AM
Post #13


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 50
Joined: 8-October 06
From: Sweden
Member No.: 869



Haha MickeM, that cool, maybe i should get my butt out off the sofa and start building some muscles too. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by funkymilk: Jul 14 2007, 01:15 AM


--------------------
Dance with me !
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kahall
post Jul 14 2007, 03:07 AM
Post #14


Learning Roadie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 989
Joined: 21-March 07
From: Springfield Missouri USA
Member No.: 1.393



QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jul 13 2007, 10:24 AM) *
Ok, I'm going to jump right in here ...

I'm expecting the younger guys will start in with popsts saying they practice 93 hours a day and get no pain smile.gif I suspect that its a lot easier when you are younger to practice and play for longer periods of time. I'm 40, and radically increasing the amount of playing I did about a year ago has given me some problems in this area.

It pays to be careful here - an hour isn;t a lot of practice by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a lot if this is somehting you ahven;t done a lot of recently, and as we get older it gets harder to pick up new stuff, the body is less flexible etc.

So, be careful, if you get pain taht isn;t just straight forward tiredness then rest or you could harm yourself!




44 here and I have experienced lots of aches and pains in my 10 weeks of playing. First it was my wrist, then my left hand fingers, then by back and recently I was having really bad headaches from being too tense and not breathing (enough) when practicing I guess or it could be from practicing with headphones on. I am in pretty decent shape considering what I put my body through in my 20's partying, and I attend the gym for an hour about 4 days a week. The doc I went to wanted to do an MRI for the headaches but I held off once I found out how much that could cost me and thought it they may be related to my new hobby. So I started a routine of 1 mg of xanex, 6 beers and a shot of tequila before practicing and man does it work.... just kidding.



Actually I can't really drink anymore (much) so I just make sure I am way cool (damb work stress!) before and during practice now and the pains are becoming less and less. The pains were not that bad except for the headaches but even they are not as severe or long lasting as they were a week ago. Still I can do no more than 1.5 - 2 hours before the bod says "hey man go do something else like mow the yard, sort your socks or hit the gym." So don't forget to breathe dammit! or dogoneit if that is not allowed. It's a cliche but it really does suck getting older but of course it is better than the alternative. unsure.gif


--------------------
Had a guitar hanging, just about waist high, and we are going to play these things until the day we die.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jeff
post Jul 14 2007, 03:57 AM
Post #15


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 877
Joined: 25-April 06
From: Virginia, US
Member No.: 706



QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jul 13 2007, 12:54 PM) *
jeff, i improvise over a backing track to get warmed up. I cant go straight into speed picking / sweeping without it! smile.gif


Got ya Matt. wink.gif I smell what you're stepping in. laugh.gif I need to work on that because I have a tendancy to jump right in full speed and I should warm it up a little first. thanks for the advice!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mattacuk
post Jul 14 2007, 09:24 AM
Post #16


Lets go fishing!
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 5.526
Joined: 21-December 06
From: illinois
Member No.: 1.001



QUOTE (jeff @ Jul 14 2007, 03:57 AM) *
Got ya Matt. wink.gif I smell what you're stepping in. laugh.gif I need to work on that because I have a tendancy to jump right in full speed and I should warm it up a little first. thanks for the advice!


Im glad i was of use to someone laugh.gif The longer and slower the "build up" the better for sure!

BTW, you can wipe your shoe of on the grass tongue.gif


--------------------
mysql> SELECT * FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert'));


"The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hungus
post Jul 25 2007, 04:07 AM
Post #17


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 368
Joined: 24-July 07
From: New Zealand
Member No.: 2.380



If the problem persists I would sugest buying something like this: http://www.zillion.co.nz/listing/3676672/
When I was working on an orchard last year doing purning I had some major problems with my hands. My whole hand and wrist would ach and my fingers would feel tight and sore even all the way up my forearm got quite sore and tense. Eventually I decided I needed to do something about it because it was getting pretty bad and then I read about these gyroscopic balls and decided to buy one. They are pretty easy to use and the resistence is set entirely by you so you can have a really mellow workout with one or you can push it really fast (which is bloody hard, you will feel like arms gonna fall off after a couple of minutes). Im kinda rambling now and lost my train of thought but basically my point was that it is extremely helpful for recovering from hand injury and I also felt it gave me a great advantage having fairly strong hands before I started playing guitar.



p.s. if you do buy one dont get put off if you struggle to use it properly at 1st because the technique can be difficult to get down and the coordination needed to use it with your left hand is pretty difficult also.


--------------------
IPB Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ibanezkiller
post Jul 25 2007, 04:23 AM
Post #18


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 282
Joined: 7-July 07
Member No.: 2.262



That happend to me when i started playing live probably because i was nervious... just relax your hand.


--------------------
METALLICA ROCKS!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kjutte
post Jul 26 2007, 06:55 PM
Post #19


GMC:er
*

Group: Passive
Posts: 1.710
Joined: 17-July 07
From: Norway
Member No.: 2.337



I can play play a whole day without feeling a thing. Played 9 hours in a row last saturday. If you're feeling musclerelated plain, you should practise really hard, relax one day, practise really hard again, etc, till you won't feel any pain. fingermuscles are just the same as real workouts, the muscles needs time to improve, and they do that when they relax.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Fast ReplyReply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 20th September 2017 - 10:46 PM