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 Jun 26 2014, 07:32 AM Post #21 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (liveOASISforever @ Jun 25 2014, 07:23 PM) Hi CosminGreat lessons. I love learning more about theory I have one question. I hope it doesn't sound stupidThe third lesson a B diminished chord is being played and the lesson is being played in C MajorC major doesn't contain any flats or sharps and a Diminished Triad = R b3 b5So the notes of the B Dim chord being played are B F and DHow does the notes tie in with the formula Hey bro - the question is not stupid at all - it is a very good one!Now, the formula is 1 b3 b5 - that means that the intervals are flattened with a half step not that the notes are flat!If we would have 1 3 5 - a major chord, having B as a root note - that is a B major chord - we would have B D# F#, right?But because the diminished formula dictates that we should lower the 3rd and 5th steps with a half step - the 'b' in front of each step, we get:B D F These notes belong to the C major scale, so it's all ok The main rules that you need to keep in mind whenever you are harmonizing a natural major scale and it's modes:- you can only have minor, major or diminished chords- the notes making up the chords have to be a part of the scale/mode you are harmonizingLet me know if this makes sense to ya, man --------------------
 Jun 26 2014, 08:03 AM Post #22 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Scotland Member No.: 9.844 QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 26 2014, 07:32 AM) Hey bro - the question is not stupid at all - it is a very good one!Now, the formula is 1 b3 b5 - that means that the intervals are flattened with a half step not that the notes are flat!If we would have 1 3 5 - a major chord, having B as a root note - that is a B major chord - we would have B D# F#, right?But because the diminished formula dictates that we should lower the 3rd and 5th steps with a half step - the 'b' in front of each step, we get:B D F These notes belong to the C major scale, so it's all ok The main rules that you need to keep in mind whenever you are harmonizing a natural major scale and it's modes:- you can only have minor, major or diminished chords- the notes making up the chords have to be a part of the scale/mode you are harmonizingLet me know if this makes sense to ya, man Ah I see Cosmin. Makes perfect sense. I thought the note was getting flattened not the intervalThanks very much mate
 Jun 26 2014, 08:31 AM Post #23 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (liveOASISforever @ Jun 26 2014, 07:03 AM) Ah I see Cosmin. Makes perfect sense. I thought the note was getting flattened not the intervalThanks very much mate Hehehe! I knew that's what was on your mind Do you think you could harmonize the E major scale for instance, with the newly acquired knowledge? --------------------
 Jun 26 2014, 01:45 PM Post #24 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Scotland Member No.: 9.844 QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 26 2014, 08:31 AM) Hehehe! I knew that's what was on your mind Do you think you could harmonize the E major scale for instance, with the newly acquired knowledge? Here goes Cosmin Major scale 2212221 E major scale = E F# G# A B C# D# F# G# A B C# D# E G# A B C# D# E F A B C# D# E F# G# B C# D# E F# G# A C# D# E F# G# A B D# E F# G# A B C#Triad Formula 1 3 5 E G# B = E major F A C# =F# minor G# B D# =G# minor A C# E =A Major B D# F# =B Major D# F# A =D# minor So these Triads Harmonize the E Major scaleAm I on the right path This post has been edited by liveOASISforever: Jun 26 2014, 02:13 PM
 Jun 27 2014, 08:15 AM Post #25 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 It's perfect, with one little exception Why is D# minor? Think about the interval created between D# and A - is it a perfect 5th? --------------------
 Jun 27 2014, 10:29 AM Post #26 Learning Tone Seeker Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 5-March 13 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 17.838 I'm taking a short break from lessons right now concentrating on covers, working on seek and destroy, black dog, and immigrant song. Trying to put solid covers together before a try to start a cover band. Thinking it's time for me to start playing with others.
 Jun 27 2014, 11:34 AM Post #27 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (dcz702 @ Jun 27 2014, 09:29 AM) I'm taking a short break from lessons right now concentrating on covers, working on seek and destroy, black dog, and immigrant song. Trying to put solid covers together before a try to start a cover band. Thinking it's time for me to start playing with others. Smartest move, if you are to ask me, mate! Playing with people compares with nothing How are you planning to put up the band? Or do you already have a crew which is preparing just as you are? --------------------
 Jun 27 2014, 12:59 PM Post #28 Learning Tone Seeker Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 5-March 13 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 17.838 QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 27 2014, 10:34 AM) Smartest move, if you are to ask me, mate! Playing with people compares with nothing How are you planning to put up the band? Or do you already have a crew which is preparing just as you are? ive been searching craiglist musician classified for months now, lots of people on craigslist looking for guitar players or guitar players looking for other people. the one thing that bugs me is that most of the adds say "we are doing covers, contact us if your interested" or " we are a originall metal band looking for a guitar player to audition", there are so many, who do i call and what are they playing and what do i need to know and learn? and i wish there were some clips and vids of them to listen to and watch, but there are none. so i thought i would learn a bunch of tunes i really like and that are popular with most people who know these bands, and most poeple know the songs im learning even if thats not your type of music. when i learn them, ill record with video and post on craiglist, what i would like to do, and give a link of my covers with vid of my playing, that way anyone interested would know exactly where im at and what i know, then we could all be on the same page from the start. thats my idea anyway
 Jun 27 2014, 09:58 PM Post #29 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 951 Joined: 8-May 11 From: Warren, Ohio Member No.: 12.764 I'm trying to compose I guess kinda. I love watching everyone who takes songs and remakes them with their own spin/sound to them. So I've been trying to do this myself with simpler songs and in the process it's helping my ears greatly if I must add. I seem to be playing better overall since I've started attempting little clips. (Amature ) But I've been making things quite a bit longer lately and taking the time to note down lyrics to chords and then hitting up the scale generator to see what scales I can use to play over it.2 Months ago was this , Mad World took the modern version of Gary Julez.https://soundcloud.com/spasemoonkey/mad-junk-test/s-DFjOV1 Month ago , You're Beautiful - James Blunthttps://soundcloud.com/spasemoonkey/pretty/s-SxtUp1 Month ago , Apologize - One Republichttps://soundcloud.com/spasemoonkey/apologize_b-d/s-DAcmjCurrently, I've been working on Let It Go - Frozen (Movie)https://soundcloud.com/spasemoonkey/let-it-gotracking-testAnd yes Gab, since you added drums to my one Creative Lesson, I started to try to do mine own also! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez RG920QM (Black Ice) , Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez RG470XL (Black Perl) , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Kemper Profiling Amp , Mesa Mark 5:25 My YouTube Page.
 Jun 28 2014, 05:17 AM Post #30 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Scotland Member No.: 9.844 QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 27 2014, 08:15 AM) It's perfect, with one little exception Why is D# minor? Think about the interval created between D# and A - is it a perfect 5th? I see what you mean Cosmin. It is a flattened 5th which would make the chord a D#Dim
 Jun 28 2014, 07:08 AM Post #31 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (liveOASISforever @ Jun 28 2014, 04:17 AM) I see what you mean Cosmin. It is a flattened 5th which would make the chord a D#Dim Good call mate! Now you got it! But what would happen if I would ask you to make the chords 7th chords How would the chords look like in this situation? --------------------
 Jun 28 2014, 09:28 AM Post #32 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 QUOTE (dcz702 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:59 AM) ive been searching craiglist musician classified for months now, lots of people on craigslist looking for guitar players or guitar players looking for other people. the one thing that bugs me is that most of the adds say "we are doing covers, contact us if your interested" or " we are a originall metal band looking for a guitar player to audition", there are so many, who do i call and what are they playing and what do i need to know and learn? and i wish there were some clips and vids of them to listen to and watch, but there are none. so i thought i would learn a bunch of tunes i really like and that are popular with most people who know these bands, and most poeple know the songs im learning even if thats not your type of music. when i learn them, ill record with video and post on craiglist, what i would like to do, and give a link of my covers with vid of my playing, that way anyone interested would know exactly where im at and what i know, then we could all be on the same page from the start. thats my idea anyway Your approach is a professional one indeed. Regardless of the position in which you find yourself - the one who's looking for a spot in a band or the band who's looking for one to fill the spot, you should be offering compelling info so that you will substantially raise your chances of success. I for one would place vids with every style I can play, both as an improv and in the context of a known song. In that way, they will see that you are also a creative person not only a good executioner.What songs did you have in mind, man? --------------------
 Jun 29 2014, 12:28 AM Post #35 Learning Tone Seeker Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 5-March 13 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 17.838 QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 28 2014, 08:28 AM) Your approach is a professional one indeed. Regardless of the position in which you find yourself - the one who's looking for a spot in a band or the band who's looking for one to fill the spot, you should be offering compelling info so that you will substantially raise your chances of success. I for one would place vids with every style I can play, both as an improv and in the context of a known song. In that way, they will see that you are also a creative person not only a good executioner.What songs did you have in mind, man? the list of covers im going to post to the add are rise against- prayer of the refugee, help is on the way. Led Zepplin- black dog, immigrant song. ACDC you shook me all night long, highway to hell. Social Distortion-reach for the sky, far behind. guns and roses sweet child o mine. metallica seek and destroy most of these im learning the rythym or know already but can use improvement to play it like how its supposed to be played, im giving myself a few weeks to get these down before posting my add. and in my add i will ask anyone interested to give me songs they would be interested in playing and i will learn them, hopefully i can find a kick ass guitar player to play these leads or maybe just get close with his own solo to pass, but i want to state in my add that im looking to get as close as we can to the sound and play them accurately. also i will state that im interested in writing and working togther to come up with originalls, i just thought starting with covers would keep it fun and give us something to work on, once were comfertable we can do both. This post has been edited by dcz702: Jun 29 2014, 12:33 AM