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post Jul 18 2014, 01:33 AM
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I hate to say it, but I am very unmotivated musically lately. I don't understand why either. Maybe I'm just tired or burned out from work or something, but mentally, I have got nothing left when I get home.

I started working on the drum part to that old Loverboy song I'm wanting to remake for the heck of it, but that is as far as I've gotten.

Experiencing burn-out and lethargy and sure hope this goes away quick, I have too much I want to accomplish to feel this unmotivated. I want to "do it" not dream about doing it.

There are days I can't wait to get home to play guitar, weekends that I have spent hours and hours playing - but I seem to just have a lose of motivation for some reason. It's like, I don't have an ultimate goal, no sense of urgency - just lots of equipment and nothing in my head or spirit that feels inspired.
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post Jul 18 2014, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE (Spock @ Jul 18 2014, 12:33 AM) *
I hate to say it, but I am very unmotivated musically lately. I don't understand why either. Maybe I'm just tired or burned out from work or something, but mentally, I have got nothing left when I get home.

I started working on the drum part to that old Loverboy song I'm wanting to remake for the heck of it, but that is as far as I've gotten.

Experiencing burn-out and lethargy and sure hope this goes away quick, I have too much I want to accomplish to feel this unmotivated. I want to "do it" not dream about doing it.

There are days I can't wait to get home to play guitar, weekends that I have spent hours and hours playing - but I seem to just have a lose of motivation for some reason. It's like, I don't have an ultimate goal, no sense of urgency - just lots of equipment and nothing in my head or spirit that feels inspired.


Hey mate, don't worry, there are times and times - I spent last year in a state similar to yours, only playing the guitar to keep my chops up. But otherwise, I felt like doing totally different things. It'll pass the same as it came smile.gif Just don't think about it - the more you do, the more frustration it'll cause. Just let it cool down for a few days - but in the mean time, watch concerts, listen to music, on short, fill yourself with musical energy and chances are, all of this will explode in practicing/creation sooner than you have imagined.

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I didn't forget about you all! smile.gif

Not thrilled with this video, my first one was way better, just I had a smudge on the lens that I didn't know and well that just upset me. So I cleaned it re-did the video it's good, but I know it can be way better. I know the sweeping is kinda bad as its super hard to do it that slow, I may increase the speed when I do it for soundcloud as I will just go go go and then lay the track on the spot instead of in a long single take. Tapping is off as well, I need to get the feel of a single, double, double, single, tap with each drum hit. But I just felt the need to post up so you guys didn't think i gave up. This has been an extremely great experience it makes me loving to pick up the guitar more and more.

Also taking that day of did wonders, I just didn't listen or play this song just did some noodling and exercises instead. Great idea I must say.

But anyways,


Hey mate smile.gif glad to hear the break payed off wink.gif If you are to ask me, I'd slow down the piece around 20% and I'd practice focusing on tightness with the drum groove, articulation and expression, as right now, you are playing with the same dynamics all around and the phrases could catch very nice nuances, if you would take things at the next level and think about what you want to express with each of them. Also, the more technical parts, like the sweep should be done slower, as difficult as it mights seem. If you can't do it slow, you won't be able to do it fast wink.gif

I'll let Gabi comment on the tone as he is far more experienced in explaining parameters than I am.


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post Jul 18 2014, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Jul 17 2014, 06:07 PM) *
I didn't forget about you all! smile.gif

Not thrilled with this video, my first one was way better, just I had a smudge on the lens that I didn't know and well that just upset me. So I cleaned it re-did the video it's good, but I know it can be way better. I know the sweeping is kinda bad as its super hard to do it that slow, I may increase the speed when I do it for soundcloud as I will just go go go and then lay the track on the spot instead of in a long single take. Tapping is off as well, I need to get the feel of a single, double, double, single, tap with each drum hit. But I just felt the need to post up so you guys didn't think i gave up. This has been an extremely great experience it makes me loving to pick up the guitar more and more.

Also taking that day of did wonders, I just didn't listen or play this song just did some noodling and exercises instead. Great idea I must say.

But anyways,



Hi mate! Thanks for the update! It's good to see you working hard. This video sounds and looks very good. It has a balanced lightening and tone, well done!

You already know the things that you have to work on this one: tapping, sweep picking, vibrato, timing. Each of these things must be worked to make your guitar playing better. I think that the best to improve each one would be to isolate the sections for practicing but also to work on some other exercises that cover those techniques.

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https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-lesson/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Tappin...-16th-Triplets/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey-5/



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post Jul 19 2014, 08:19 AM
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Hey mate!

Great suggestions here from Gabriel smile.gif I would also like to tell you that the tapping technique needs good legato technique to function, so practicing some legato is also a good idea. This is why, I'd like to add some suggestions as well:

- https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato/ - this one may be the first in the series, but it has a very important focus on pretty challenging position shifting, so I strongly recommend it to strengthen your left hand
- https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Sweep-...-7th-Arpeggios/ - this one has a lower tempo and is focused on definition and playing sweep picking with a clean tone smile.gif It will work wonders on your technique wink.gif Focus on clean and articulated playing and on the general flow of the piece

Please do tell me how you feel about these recommendations, ok Travis?


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post Jul 19 2014, 11:18 AM
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This is what I am currently working on




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post Jul 19 2014, 12:44 PM
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I was rather shocked of the quality of the video myself. I've still gotta change 1 light out in my ceiling fan, 2 are daylight 1 is "warm" so most of the room looks like I have giant florescent lights in it.

I was planning on setting the metronome down to 120bmp and work it up to 145bpm as the track is 137bpm. This way I can play it at the correct speed and it should be easier to do as I'm use to faster.

Those are all great looking lessons.

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 18 2014, 08:56 AM) *
Hi mate! Thanks for the update! It's good to see you working hard. This video sounds and looks very good. It has a balanced lightening and tone, well done!

You already know the things that you have to work on this one: tapping, sweep picking, vibrato, timing. Each of these things must be worked to make your guitar playing better. I think that the best to improve each one would be to isolate the sections for practicing but also to work on some other exercises that cover those techniques.

Here are some suggestions:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-lesson/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Tappin...-16th-Triplets/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey-5/



Those all look great. I just recently started to do trills as I'd like to gain some speed with fingers and add to finger independence. So this will make it a bit more fun with gaining to speed/strength instead of just 1-2-1-2-1-2, then all the rest of my fingers.

Sweeping for me has to be one of the hardest things for me to do. Worked it for years, I can do it on certain things but can't just pull it out mid playing.

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 19 2014, 03:19 AM) *
Hey mate!

Great suggestions here from Gabriel smile.gif I would also like to tell you that the tapping technique needs good legato technique to function, so practicing some legato is also a good idea. This is why, I'd like to add some suggestions as well:

- https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato/ - this one may be the first in the series, but it has a very important focus on pretty challenging position shifting, so I strongly recommend it to strengthen your left hand
- https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Sweep-...-7th-Arpeggios/ - this one has a lower tempo and is focused on definition and playing sweep picking with a clean tone smile.gif It will work wonders on your technique wink.gif Focus on clean and articulated playing and on the general flow of the piece

Please do tell me how you feel about these recommendations, ok Travis?




Looks like I have some working to start on today! smile.gif Thanks guys!


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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Jul 19 2014, 08:44 AM) *
I was rather shocked of the quality of the video myself. I've still gotta change 1 light out in my ceiling fan, 2 are daylight 1 is "warm" so most of the room looks like I have giant florescent lights in it.

I was planning on setting the metronome down to 120bmp and work it up to 145bpm as the track is 137bpm. This way I can play it at the correct speed and it should be easier to do as I'm use to faster.

Those are all great looking lessons.


Those all look great. I just recently started to do trills as I'd like to gain some speed with fingers and add to finger independence. So this will make it a bit more fun with gaining to speed/strength instead of just 1-2-1-2-1-2, then all the rest of my fingers.

Sweeping for me has to be one of the hardest things for me to do. Worked it for years, I can do it on certain things but can't just pull it out mid playing.


Looks like I have some working to start on today! smile.gif Thanks guys!




yeah, keeping the same lightening temperature is a good choice to get better color balance so it can be a good improvement, but even with the current settings, your video looks good!

Let's talk about Sweep Picking. Have you worked on any GMC lesson that covers mostly this technique? Do you have a video?


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post Jul 20 2014, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 19 2014, 09:15 PM) *
yeah, keeping the same lightening temperature is a good choice to get better color balance so it can be a good improvement, but even with the current settings, your video looks good!

Let's talk about Sweep Picking. Have you worked on any GMC lesson that covers mostly this technique? Do you have a video?


I used a video maybe 2 years ago, just to play a sweep in 1 single song, past that I've never really used it.


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post Jul 20 2014, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Jul 19 2014, 11:44 AM) *
I was rather shocked of the quality of the video myself. I've still gotta change 1 light out in my ceiling fan, 2 are daylight 1 is "warm" so most of the room looks like I have giant florescent lights in it.

I was planning on setting the metronome down to 120bmp and work it up to 145bpm as the track is 137bpm. This way I can play it at the correct speed and it should be easier to do as I'm use to faster.

Those are all great looking lessons.




Those all look great. I just recently started to do trills as I'd like to gain some speed with fingers and add to finger independence. So this will make it a bit more fun with gaining to speed/strength instead of just 1-2-1-2-1-2, then all the rest of my fingers.

Sweeping for me has to be one of the hardest things for me to do. Worked it for years, I can do it on certain things but can't just pull it out mid playing.





Looks like I have some working to start on today! smile.gif Thanks guys!


Glad you like the lessons - I chose the sweeping one at that tempo, because I knew that's where you need to orient your focus - mid level speed and control smile.gif

I think it's more of an anticipation thing, Travis - focus on being in control at a low speed when playing and implement the technique there. For me, it was always a matter of control and relaxation. Maybe you are over thinking things and thus you tense up unconsciously?

Let's talk about this and maybe I can help you with the relaxing tips smile.gif You must be in control, not your mind wink.gif


QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 19 2014, 10:18 AM) *
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Hey Mert!! Very nice rendition, man! For me, one of the reasons that makes it difficult to play Dream Theater songs, is remembering a lot of information biggrin.gif

I think that as an overall ensemble, everything sounds good out of what I can perceive, judging by the fact that you have recorded over the original. The timing seems good, the tones as well. I would like to suggest you to focus a little on the part around 02:44 where that little solo is played - the bends are in good pitch, but they could be a bit more expressive, so take some time to rehearse that part having this in mind, ok?

Great work, man and maybe you would like to work on your bending skills with a GMC lesson as well wink.gif How about this one?

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bendin...Friedman-Style/

It's something a bit unusual, but it will definitely work out your control on bending smile.gif Let me know what you think man! Congrats once again!


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I've spent probably 10 hours so far on trying to write a midi drum part for this song I'm trying to redo - I'm not using stock beats but making my own (midi and EZ Drummer) -for the first time. and it is apparent that this song was not recorded in the studio to a metronome which would make the copying soooo much easier. But at this point I'm on a mission to see this through.

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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Jul 20 2014, 02:49 AM) *
I used a video maybe 2 years ago, just to play a sweep in 1 single song, past that I've never really used it.




Well, this means that you'd need a more serious Sweep Picking practice to master the technique. It's not a difficult technique to master but it requires some diary practice to ahieve different things:

- Sync between both hands.
- Good timing
- Clean playing (muting the strings that you are not playing when a new note sounds)

These three things are the basics once you understand the details about the motion.

This is a good lesson to start: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-lesson/



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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 20 2014, 03:32 AM) *
Glad you like the lessons - I chose the sweeping one at that tempo, because I knew that's where you need to orient your focus - mid level speed and control smile.gif

I think it's more of an anticipation thing, Travis - focus on being in control at a low speed when playing and implement the technique there. For me, it was always a matter of control and relaxation. Maybe you are over thinking things and thus you tense up unconsciously?

Let's talk about this and maybe I can help you with the relaxing tips smile.gif You must be in control, not your mind wink.gif


I want to say yes? Because when I use to play it was open handed placed across the strings, it was easy for say rhythm but lead picking it would be like playing a record almost pick the hand up and place the needle on a different groove to change the track. Which after some boot camp work with Todd, I started to close my fist, it effected my muting because I can't rely on my full hand. So I've started to look at songs by Lamb of God that mixes the 2 styles. Which has greatly helped me start to open close my hand without even thinking about it.

So this is probably why my sweeping has taken a slight detour. I'm thinking to much about it now due to how should I place my hand to mute and cut through notes as my hand is in a fist. But once I get in the motion I'm great until I change it up, lead into it with anything other than sweeping. I tend to dig in deep instead of the rustle of wind going through leaves. I shall have to pay attention to that. Maybe start with the basics again and add a few notes to lead and out so I can get use to blending it all together?


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Nowadays I am working for shorter but very rhythmic musical sentences!
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That alone will burn you out smile.gif Just a friendly suggestion, but if you are working on a cover for fun, I'd suggest focusing on the fun part maybe? Killing yourself on tedious tasks will probably just make you resent the entire thing. For more any song under the sun you can find a midi track with bit of googling, and probably the specific midi drum track to that song. Toss that on a track in your daw with EZ Drummer applied and Bingo, you've got the drums sorted smile.gif It doesn't have to be perfect, it's for giggles right?

Then you can focus on the fun bits and play guitar and such. smile.gif Having to spend too much time on the other bits will start to make it feel like "work" which the exact opposite of what it's supposed to feel like smile.gif

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QUOTE (Spock @ Jul 20 2014, 05:19 AM) *
I've spent probably 10 hours so far on trying to write a midi drum part for this song I'm trying to redo - I'm not using stock beats but making my own (midi and EZ Drummer) -for the first time. and it is apparent that this song was not recorded in the studio to a metronome which would make the copying soooo much easier. But at this point I'm on a mission to see this through.


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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 20 2014, 08:45 PM) *
That alone will burn you out smile.gif Just a friendly suggestion, but if you are working on a cover for fun, I'd suggest focusing on the fun part maybe? Killing yourself on tedious tasks will probably just make you resent the entire thing. For more any song under the sun you can find a midi track with bit of googling, and probably the specific midi drum track to that song. Toss that on a track in your daw with EZ Drummer applied and Bingo, you've got the drums sorted smile.gif It doesn't have to be perfect, it's for giggles right?

Then you can focus on the fun bits and play guitar and such. smile.gif Having to spend too much time on the other bits will start to make it feel like "work" which the exact opposite of what it's supposed to feel like smile.gif

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Right again Todd - it is a little draining, plus the fact that I don't know what a drummer would do in certain circumstances. Except for a couple of rolls, I'm doing everything on hi-hat, snare and bass drum. But it has become a mission at this point - THIS POP/ROCK WILL NOT BEAT ME!!!!! And I'm close to the end, only have to finish the last chorus, which I tried to copy and paste from the one before but it was out of sync.

Anyway, my son is a monster at this midi stuff, so once I get it down with the timing right, he's going to noodle with it and put in ghost licks, some toms, and cymbals. But while he's doing that I can start on the bass and guitars.

I'm hoping it will sound more like what a Loverboy song would if 7-Dust covered it. biggrin.gif But it will probably sound like a very drunk Alex Lifeson, emulating Adam Jones trying to play a Loverboy song. I guess that's the "voice" of my guitar. A barely conscious Alex Lifeson trying to sound like Adam Jones playing something other than Tool. I can work with that!
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Interesting stuff Spock! I specially refer to your trick to explore and find your own voice on guitar. If you feel that "your thing" is around the combination of both guitarist, it's a great starting point to combine their style to create an original style that will be a first great step in order to reveal your own personality as a musician and guitar player. You are definitely on the right track, keep going!

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Nowadays I am working for shorter but very rhythmic musical sentences!


You are great Baha! Your approaches to practice are always very fresh and creative.

What type of phrases are you working? What influences? How is this approach? Do you have any video working on it?


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I respect your defiant persistance!! smile.gif That's honestly the only way I learned to play guitar! I was considered "unteachable" by my instructors so I had to teach myself and I was pretty stubborn about not giving up. Sometimes that's just what is required. March on!!!!!

Can't wait to hear the 7 Dust version of LOVERBOY smile.gif BTW, if you would be up for me doing some guest lead work or rythm work or what not on your track I'd love to!! Big fan of RAWKING covers of 80's tunes smile.gif

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Right again Todd - it is a little draining, plus the fact that I don't know what a drummer would do in certain circumstances. Except for a couple of rolls, I'm doing everything on hi-hat, snare and bass drum. But it has become a mission at this point - THIS POP/ROCK WILL NOT BEAT ME!!!!! And I'm close to the end, only have to finish the last chorus, which I tried to copy and paste from the one before but it was out of sync.

Anyway, my son is a monster at this midi stuff, so once I get it down with the timing right, he's going to noodle with it and put in ghost licks, some toms, and cymbals. But while he's doing that I can start on the bass and guitars.

I'm hoping it will sound more like what a Loverboy song would if 7-Dust covered it. biggrin.gif But it will probably sound like a very drunk Alex Lifeson, emulating Adam Jones trying to play a Loverboy song. I guess that's the "voice" of my guitar. A barely conscious Alex Lifeson trying to sound like Adam Jones playing something other than Tool. I can work with that!



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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 21 2014, 01:35 PM) *
BTW, if you would be up for me doing some guest lead work or rythm work or what not on your track I'd love to!! Big fan of RAWKING covers of 80's tunes smile.gif

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I would LOVE to collaborate with you on something Todd. I already have an idea in my head for this tune, but how about I figure out another 80s song we can work, something I know I would not be capable of pulling the solo off on.

Would you be interested one of these - I always loved them... and some of the licks would be difficult for me...



^^^^ If we did this one we would have to talk Cosmin into cutting the vocal track. smile.gif

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Hey guys biggrin.gif what's cooking here? Cosmin would love to throw some vocals in and some guitar leads as well if you guys are willing to work on something that doesn't have anything to do with the 80s , because I can't sing like that biggrin.gif But first things first - Regarding the MIDI tracks importing in order to get the drums - well, I could never make due with this method unfortunately, regardless on how much I would've wished it to work for me - but each time, the drum track was messed up to say the least... sad.gif Todd, am I doing something wrong, or is there anything we should particularly be aware of when importing MIDI tracks?


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that doesn't have anything to do with the 80s , because I can't sing like that biggrin.gif



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