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post Aug 13 2014, 05:41 PM
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Hey Gab!Definetly I am in...The first impression is that I don't hear clearly what is going on in the song....but I will try the secrets you have told me and write my opinion here. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 13 2014, 01:41 PM) *
Hey Gab!Definetly I am in...The first impression is that I don't hear clearly what is going on in the song....but I will try the secrets you have told me and write my opinion here. biggrin.gif



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After listening to the song with the slow downer software I can say that the song is in G major key...and the first chords are G-C and G-Am and after that I don't know cause there comes a part wich they play only the low strings and I can't figure it out...
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Hi mate, you are close. The first two chords are ok, not the third one. Are you using the ideas shared by Ben in the lesson that I posted?

I have another idea, what about going for this song which doesn't include lead guitars:



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Suure I am using his ideas...I listen to the chord and hear how many strings are involved and also listen if it's major or minor.I listen also if he goes higher or lower on the fretboard,with hard training I am sure I can do it....I will give it a go with this new song biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 16 2014, 01:04 PM) *
Suure I am using his ideas...I listen to the chord and hear how many strings are involved and also listen if it's major or minor.I listen also if he goes higher or lower on the fretboard,with hard training I am sure I can do it....I will give it a go with this new song biggrin.gif



Great! the process sounds good. Looking forward the chords for Polly. biggrin.gif


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I am sure the first 2 chords are G and C...and the third I think it's F biggrin.gif
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Hi Vince, those are wrong chords. sad.gif

I give you another chance, let's go for the first chord. Try to discover the root of the chord, sing the chord and then try notes on the 6th string until you find the one that sounds like the root. Ok?


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sad.gif Then I will sing the chord and also sing for new gear cause what I have right now ain't helping me mad.gif

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Hi Vince, those are wrong chords. sad.gif

I give you another chance, let's go for the first chord. Try to discover the root of the chord, sing the chord and then try notes on the 6th string until you find the one that sounds like the root. Ok?

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sad.gif Then I will sing the chord and also sing for new gear cause what I have right now ain't helping me mad.gif



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Well I use a 2.1 speaker system connected to my laptop and the sound isn't so great....I am sure some studio monitors will help me much more to develop my ears.
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 19 2014, 07:24 PM) *
Well I use a 2.1 speaker system connected to my laptop and the sound isn't so great....I am sure some studio monitors will help me much more to develop my ears.



Sure, it's always good to have good monitors. Your recordings and mixes will be better and you will be able to hear more details, but just a pair of headphones could do the job by now.

Could you find the root of the first chord?


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Sure I found it ...The root of the first chord it's E.
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 20 2014, 02:25 PM) *
Sure I found it ...The root of the first chord it's E.



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Nope.But definetly I am sooooo interested.
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 20 2014, 02:41 PM) *
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hehehe I think that we had a great time yesterday. Have you worked on the concepts and exercises?


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Great?It was not great...it was totally awesome and so inspiring cool.gif .I am working on it right now but I am using my headphones or else you will have a student less in your army laugh.gif

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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 21 2014, 04:47 PM) *
Great?It was not great...it was totally awesome and so inspiring cool.gif .I am working on it right now but I am using my headphones or else you will have a student less in your army laugh.gif



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After experimenting a little bit I can say for sure that the first chords are E5 and D5.The next ones I think they are D5-C5 and G5-A#5 but I can't figure it out the tonality wich they belong to. mad.gif
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Ok, that's not totally right. The correct progression for the intro and verse is: E5 - G5 - D5 - C5

If we want to determine the tonality of this progression, you can check the chord function taking each of the chords as the root chord. Based on my experience, I can say that this track is not in E major, because G chord appears that is the chord based on the minor third. As most of the songs start or end with the root chord, my main suspect would be that this track is in Em.

These are the 3 possible tonalities that include the chords:

If the song would be in Em:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
Im - III - VII - VI


If the song would be in G:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
VIm - I - V - IV

If the song would be in C:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
IIIm - IV - VII - I


If you check the progressions, you will notice that the first one seems to be the most reasonable, it's a very used movement in music. But now there is a last step that you can do to define it. In a tonality, playing the root chord as the last chord gives the sensation of "end", of "resolution", so you can play the progression 3 times and end it, first with Em, then with G, and finally with C.

Which chord fits better in the end?

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