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Definetly the Em fits better in the end.The G and C give me the sensation of incomplete.
Looking forward to discover the chords of the next song biggrin.gif



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Ok, that's not totally right. The correct progression for the intro and verse is: E5 - G5 - D5 - C5

If we want to determine the tonality of this progression, you can check the chord function taking each of the chords as the root chord. Based on my experience, I can say that this track is not in E major, because G chord appears that is the chord based on the minor third. As most of the songs start or end with the root chord, my main suspect would be that this track is in Em.

These are the 3 possible tonalities that include the chords:

If the song would be in Em:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
Im - III - VII - VI


If the song would be in G:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
VIm - I - V - IV

If the song would be in C:

E5 - G5 - D5 - C5
IIIm - IV - VII - I


If you check the progressions, you will notice that the first one seems to be the most reasonable, it's a very used movement in music. But now there is a last step that you can do to define it. In a tonality, playing the root chord as the last chord gives the sensation of "end", of "resolution", so you can play the progression 3 times and end it, first with Em, then with G, and finally with C.

Which chord fits better in the end?


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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 25 2014, 03:19 PM) *
Definetly the Em fits better in the end.The G and C give me the sensation of incomplete.
Looking forward to discover the chords of the next song biggrin.gif



Excellent! This is the best way to discover the tonality of a song. smile.gif

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Hey Hey Hey!This song is in C major and the chords used are G,Cadd9,Am,C with some variations in the bridge.
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Excellent! This is the best way to discover the tonality of a song. smile.gif

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Very close man! Yes! It's in C major, and the chords are: C - Am - G - F


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mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif I think I need to have my ears checked sad.gif
On the next song I will pay more attention.
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Very close man! Yes! It's in C major, and the chords are: C - Am - G - F


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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Aug 29 2014, 07:38 AM) *
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif I think I need to have my ears checked sad.gif
On the next song I will pay more attention.


Not really! Just practice! I think that joining my Impro Course could help to train your ears...


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Gab!I already joined your improvisation course and I should post my recordings here in this thread but I think it's better that I have a thread only for improvisation...What do you think?

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Hi Vince! I think that having a complementary thread just for the Improvisation course is a very good idea, so this is the thread for it!

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Hey Gab!Thank you for support!Looking forward to start improvising but also to train my ear...I am beginning to like to discover chords biggrin.gif

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ok! So this is our new song to learn chords by ear:



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Hey Gab!The main chords are C Am Dm G and the bridge is made out of C Am G C and Am C G.The song is in C major.
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ok! So this is our new song to learn chords by ear:



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Hi mate, there are some chords that are right but some others aren't. The key is perfect! C Major. I will help you with the second chord of the ver and let you discover the third, the other two are ok.

Verse:

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So the third chord of the verse is Am7.The bridge is F-Cadd9/B-G-Am and F-Cadd9/B-G. unsure.gif



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Hi mate, there are some chords that are right but some others aren't. The key is perfect! C Major. I will help you with the second chord of the ver and let you discover the third, the other two are ok.

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Hi Vince!

Verse is now perfect... bridge...

F - ? - ? - Am

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The bridge is F-Gadd11-C-Am and F-C-G.


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Hi Vince!

Verse is now perfect... bridge...

F - ? - ? - Am

F - ? - G

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Just 1 chord to go! C isn't the right chord in the second part...


F-Gadd11-C-Am

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F-Em-G biggrin.gif

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Just 1 chord to go! C isn't the right chord in the second part...


F-Gadd11-C-Am

F- ? -G.


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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Sep 6 2014, 01:55 PM) *
F-Em-G biggrin.gif



hehehe you see! You take the decisions too quickly. Take more time to hear each chord, to play over it and see if there isn't one that sounds closer... You have to be more obsessive. By the way, this work together must definitely be helping to develop your ear. Great job!


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Our work certainly helps...now I know what I did wrong and try to not mess it up again in the future.I promise I will be more patient:)

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hehehe you see! You take the decisions too quickly. Take more time to hear each chord, to play over it and see if there isn't one that sounds closer... You have to be more obsessive. By the way, this work together must definitely be helping to develop your ear. Great job!

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Ok! So this is the new song to analyze:




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