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post Sep 14 2014, 05:46 PM
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Hey Gab!After listening so many times this song I can say that it is in E Major Key.I am pretty sure that the chord progression involves a modulation...and the chords are D5-A5-F#5-E5.

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post Sep 15 2014, 04:51 AM
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Hi Vince! This is so awesome!! smile.gif The chords are perfect!! Some of them are major or minor but by now identifying power chord is enough and a good step forward. smile.gif

Talking about the tonality, you are close, it's E major, but not the most known or commonly used major mode. It's a different mode. Let's analyse it a bit:

These are the notes that form E major scale:

E F# G# A B C# D#


The chords that you've heard are: D5 - A5 - F#5 - E5


Everything is ok, except that D5 because we don't have D root on E major scale. E major scale is also known as Ionian mode and it's one of the 3 major modes that derive from a major scale. The other two ones are Lydian and Mixolydian.

Check out E mixolydian;

E F# G# A B C# D

As you can see, D appears there as well as the other notes from the progression so I believe that the progression is in E mixolydian tonality.

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Hi Gab!I am so happy that I got the right chords biggrin.gif and thank you for explaining the theory behind this chord progression smile.gif Now I have a new perspective about the tonality of a song.
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Hi Vince! This is so awesome!! smile.gif The chords are perfect!! Some of them are major or minor but by now identifying power chord is enough and a good step forward. smile.gif

Talking about the tonality, you are close, it's E major, but not the most known or commonly used major mode. It's a different mode. Let's analyse it a bit:

These are the notes that form E major scale:

E F# G# A B C# D#


The chords that you've heard are: D5 - A5 - F#5 - E5


Everything is ok, except that D5 because we don't have D root on E major scale. E major scale is also known as Ionian mode and it's one of the 3 major modes that derive from a major scale. The other two ones are Lydian and Mixolydian.

Check out E mixolydian;

E F# G# A B C# D

As you can see, D appears there as well as the other notes from the progression so I believe that the progression is in E mixolydian tonality.

If this stuff is completely new for you or if you have some unclear knowledge about modes, please check the following thread and let me know if you have some questions:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=48825


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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Sep 15 2014, 12:46 PM) *
Hi Gab!I am so happy that I got the right chords biggrin.gif and thank you for explaining the theory behind this chord progression smile.gif Now I have a new perspective about the tonality of a song.



Excellent! smile.gif

Dave likes to use modal progressions, mostly Lydian but in this case appears one of the most used in rock Mixolydian. Bands and musicians that have USA folk influences uses this mode a lot, for ex: Slash / GN'R, Zakk Wylde, Rolling Stones, etc...

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Hi Gab!Please help me with this one cause my ears won't cooperate when they hear something they don't like blink.gif

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Excellent! smile.gif

Dave likes to use modal progressions, mostly Lydian but in this case appears one of the most used in rock Mixolydian. Bands and musicians that have USA folk influences uses this mode a lot, for ex: Slash / GN'R, Zakk Wylde, Rolling Stones, etc...

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Ok, let's go for this one that has similar chords that clearer because guitar is more present:





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Hi Gab!The song is in D major and the main chords are D-A-G-D and also in the chorus we have A-D,G-D wich leads us back to the main chords.
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hehehe that's perfect man! I think that your ear is getting tight! Well done. smile.gif

how are the other things going? improvisation stuff? technique?


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Thanks Gab!Unfortunetly in the past 2 weeks I didn't had much time to practice and I can't keep up the rythm with your impromovisation course sad.gif THe alternate picking lesson is almost done,I am working on final details and the blues dynamics lesson I can't play it at tempo so it will take me more time to make it perfect.
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hehehe that's perfect man! I think that your ear is getting tight! Well done. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Sep 24 2014, 04:05 PM) *
Thanks Gab!Unfortunetly in the past 2 weeks I didn't had much time to practice and I can't keep up the rythm with your impromovisation course sad.gif THe alternate picking lesson is almost done,I am working on final details and the blues dynamics lesson I can't play it at tempo so it will take me more time to make it perfect.



Hi Vince, don't worry about the improvisation course schedule. The idea is that you take your time to master each of the topics, and that's why I created a thread for your, where there are no news... sad.gif

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Hey Gab!You are right again smile.gif I will take my time on week number 1 of the course and post a recording to let you see if I am on the right way biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Sep 26 2014, 01:05 PM) *
Hey Gab!You are right again smile.gif I will take my time on week number 1 of the course and post a recording to let you see if I am on the right way biggrin.gif



Hi mate, this sounds great! Please post there recording of your random practice just to check how the things are evolving. Dedicate some time every day, if it's possible at least 30 minutes of improvisation practice.


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Well...I learned everything that you thaught us at the improvisation course but when I try to improvise nothing smart comes out of my hands and everytime I am on the wrong note when the chords change...It's so frustrating mad.gif
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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Sep 28 2014, 05:20 PM) *
Well...I learned everything that you thaught us at the improvisation course but when I try to improvise nothing smart comes out of my hands and everytime I am on the wrong note when the chords change...It's so frustrating mad.gif



Start slowly. Don't try to make amazing melodies at first. Practice using random notes, playing the sequences or arpeggios up and down. Very slow melodies. You fingers can go faster than your mind so now your fingers need to be patient and wait to your mind to get use to this techniques. smile.gif


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OK Gab smile.gif I will start slow and make sure i know everything before I post the recording .Please let's move forward with the ear training cause my main focus is to play and compose for my future band.
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Start slowly. Don't try to make amazing melodies at first. Practice using random notes, playing the sequences or arpeggios up and down. Very slow melodies. You fingers can go faster than your mind so now your fingers need to be patient and wait to your mind to get use to this techniques. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Vince09 @ Oct 3 2014, 10:59 AM) *
OK Gab smile.gif I will start slow and make sure i know everything before I post the recording .Please let's move forward with the ear training cause my main focus is to play and compose for my future band.



Ok! Let's continue with some new songs to learn by year to then move to learn melodies. Today: Ramones:



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Hi Gab!As my ears hear this song is in G major with the main chords G5-A5-D5, pre chorus G5-A5 ,G5-A5-C5 and the chorus G5-A5-C5-D5 followed by G5-A5-C5...back to the main chords.
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Hi Vince. You are not on the right track from the beginning. The tune is in D minor, and D minor is the first chord. Please try to learn the intro arpeggios, no matter if you are not sure about the name of the chords, but try to learn each note played and tab it with guitar pro, is it possible?


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Hi Gab!I am so sorry that i got it wrong sad.gif I will try the way you recommended even though I have no experience with guitar pro.
Here is a quick recording of the alternate picking lesson.
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Hi mate, thanks for the update. I can see that you are doing a good job with this lesson that seems to be very effective for your Alternate Picking technique. The first thing that I would improve on this one is your tone, I don't know if it's the camera video or what, but it's a bit weak and is lacking sustain, I also think that the EQ could be warmer (less treble, more bass & mids).

About your playing, it's ok to use palm muting in the lower strings, but for any reason the notes played on the higher strings are also cut too early and sound like with a staccato effect. Try to make those notes longer to let your playing sound smoother.

This lesson is very demanding at first but it's very useful so please keep on practicing it. The next thing to have in mind is how you manage dynamics, and off course the tone that you get, not only because of the settings used, also from your fingers and pick.

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