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Bogdan Radovic
post Jul 16 2014, 11:20 AM
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Comments by Gabriel Leopardi


Jeroen:
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Your take was noticeably in the style of Iron Maiden and you captured their vibe really well. The intro section was ideal spot for recording another guitar playing Maiden harmonies. If you don’t have experience with this, I recommend you to check my Iron Maiden Masterclass lesson where I explain how to harmonize guitars and give more info about Maiden’s music.

What I notice is that your guitar/playing sounds just slightly out of tune for some reason. Have you checked your tuning? Maybe your tuner wasn't set to frequency of 440hz? If the guitar is perfectly in tune, it might be that you are pressing the strings with too much force to the frets which can sometimes detune the notes slightly. I would like to ask you if you note this issue, because if you don’t you should add some ear training into your diary routines. You should be able to recognize intervals, triads, chords and the best way to train this is transcribing music by ear, you can even start transcribing GMC lessons!

Another thing that I noted in the intro section is that you have some timing issues starting at 00:11. It seems that the reason is that you are not 100% comfortable with the idea yet, so it needed more practice. It’s a pity because the melody was pure Maiden. Remember to practice the ideas before you record them some more time and focus on details as expression (vibrato, dynamics) and groove/timing. Talking about expression, the long notes on this melody are asking for vibrato! Remember to use this technique that makes this type of phrases sounds cooler!

Solo section : very good idea to start with shredding and bending one note, that really puts in the Iron Maiden flavor. The landing note after the long solo intro note sounds slightly weak against the backing track (0:48-0:50). That lick could utilize a stronger note(s) and when I say stronger, I think mostly about notes that form the chords in the backing played in that section. Those notes always sound "at home". Once again, your ear should be trained enough to make you notice that there are better notes to stay there. The use and practice of triads and arpeggios can help on this topic so I recommend you to give a look at this section from our Theory Board: link

Overall the playing energy and performance of your solo was really good and what I like to name to as "convincing". This is something which can be hard to achieve, especially when the REC light is shining on the camera. Please check the tuning issues with the guitar, that can be very damaging to your playing as for example you might train your ear not to bend to the correct pitch or get used to playing slightly out of tune.

Bleez:

On a very first impression, you had the best guitar tone in this collab. Really organic and suitable for Iron Maiden. The intro section is strong and sounds authentic. The main solo was very good and balanced. I would suggest focusing on the notes which you used to slow down the pace (long bends etc) + the starting, long notes of licks (for example 0:15). The bends felt slightly problematic when it comes to pitch and those sections might need a bit stronger licks to support the solo as a whole. The main problem is that this is a tricky part to solo since we have a diatonic power chords movement that seems to be more like a riff, so in this case, you have to be careful with the notes selection and even more if you decide to use a few long notes. My approach to tricky rock/metal backings is to trust on my ear instead of thinking too much about scales, arpeggios and all that stuff, but I obviously need some trial and error when progressions become difficult like this one. I can hear that the licks starting at 00:26 sound like if you were playing out of scale, and everything becomes better when you decide to follow the power chords. A melody more connected to the chords rhythm and notes would be a safe option.

Try experimenting with those "landing" notes to see which one sounds the best to you and feels that it doesn't have too much tension in it. I think those landing notes are what currently holds you back from strong solo phrasing. Besides this, I think that there are just some timing details in the first half .

You have played over a trickier part of backing and pulled it off - great job there! Kudos again for the tone, really organic!

Spock:
(full take)

Your solo is the most Maiden style in this collab. You used many licks and melodies that remind me of them and you organized them wisely during the whole solo. I think that your solo has a good structure and a balanced combination of shred and melody. The main thing that I think you have to pay attention on your next solos is intonation and pitch of your guitar and/or playing. There are some artificial harmonics, bends and sections that have this problem and the reason can be your guitar or your playing. You must check your guitar tuning if everything regarding strings and calibration is ok, you have to polish your playing and the way you press the strings to be sure that you aren't generating this issue that affects the overall quality of your take. Check from 00:47 to 00:50 and you will hear a bend and a harmonic that have this pitch problem.

You also should pay some more attention to your timing and work on your vibrato since I think that your playing deserves a wider and more consistent vibrato. For this, I extremely recommend you to work on Ben Higgins Vibrato series.

Your tone is very good and I really appreciate the time you dedicated to create the amazing video that you edited for this collab. To summarize, your composing skills are very promising but you must be careful with the intonation of your guitar and playing. Keep on rocking.

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Huargo:
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This was a very interesting take! Sounds like Iron Maiden on steroids and its very unique. The sweeping intro is really technical and you pulled it off! It could be played just slightly cleaner but you managed to get it in shape very nicely. The lick that stood out as slightly weaker in the solo, was the one at 0:26-0:30 due to the groove it has which stops the flow a bit yet still feels busy.

If you wanted to create a nice contrast with the blazing fast licks that go before and after that one, you could experiment with adding few melodic, long notes with added expression tools like vibrato or bending. The part at 0:40 - was very unexpected and neoclassical sounding and it acts as a cool build up for the solo that goes after it. The ending solo was very Maiden like, but maybe you could try holding more sustain on the bended double stop notes and minimizing pauses when switching positions. If you want to develop your phrasing a little bit more in the Maiden direction, I think this lesson would be suitable for your level: Janick Gers Style and it has a lot of fast stuff as well as longer notes, precisely the kind of combo in the discussion smile.gif You could also brighten up your tone a bit, as it's too muddy, if you ask me. I am more of a definition dude and this is why I usually like recording with the bridge pickup, as it makes my sound more defined usually, but that's just me wink.gif

Overall - this was a furious and very creative collab take with lots of stuff going on. I really liked how you added your unique style and phrasing to it while at the same time keeping the Maiden vibe by using their signature techniques/licks here and there. Great job!

Sensible Jones:
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Interesting take, mate! The intro section was the perfect spot for classic Maiden harmonies! Technique wise, it could have been played a bit tighter and cleaner (there are some missed notes and unwanted noises here and there). The part from 0:19-0:44 sounded a bit weaker in comparison to the intro and the main solo and this is most likely due to backing tracking being a bit tricky in that section and that type of backing track which can suck you into it and make you play or try to reinforce the melody which the backing track rhythm guitars are playing. You should take a bit of time to analyze the chords being played there and the possibilities that could arise from the sheer trickiness of the track - you never know what sort of creative idea could spring out smile.gif

What makes it tricky is that the melody which rhythm guitars play is not very suitable or strong as the lead guitar melody and needs a different lead approach for squeezing the best effect on the listener. The main solo was very nicely done and I really liked the tapping ending - technically, please focus on the bending pitch and cleaning up the unwanted noises using the muting technique on the strings that are not being played. Your tone is clean and I can hear the defined notes, so nothing much I'd add there. Maybe you'd wanna take one of Ben's lessons dealing with bending and vibrato for a ride: Ben's Vibrato Odyssey - it's a great series that will hone a lot of your articulation skills! Overall, authentic Maiden vibe - great to have you in this collab, Neil!

Ulrik:
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Great to see you participating in this collab, Ulrik! The intro solo had a very good idea, but technically, there are timing issues which break the flow a bit. Please try focusing on the hammer-on/pull-off combinations, as these seem to throw you off a bit, or maybe even cut a few notes here and there to help go through the passages with a stronger flow. The main (ending) solo was very similar to the intro one and I noticed that you are playing in the same position on the neck. This limits the potential of the solo a bit and makes it slightly flat, so maybe try contrasting sections starting on lower parts of the fretboard and building up towards a climax. You could do it by finding out how to connect two or 3 scale boxes smoothly. Maybe working on some legato will definitely strengthen your left hand for the future collabs and I think that the best drills are definitely Ben's: Ben's Land Of Legato - this one may look easy at the beginning, but it's not smile.gif It'll work your fingers very hard! As for the tone - it's definitely very 80s style, although I'd take the highs a bit down a notch, if you ask me, but overall - really nice solo and it had a sort of 80s vibe due to effects and phrasing.

Gentlemen! Thank you for making this collab happen! We are looking forward to having you on the next one as well, but in the mean time, take a little time to implement our thoughts above in your playing and I'm sure you'll take one step forward on your wonderful journey.

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post Jul 16 2014, 02:22 PM
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Hey guys! Congrats one again on making this happen! Cheers to all and get ready for the new one! biggrin.gif It'll soon be up and it's gonna be a blast! biggrin.gif


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post Jul 16 2014, 02:44 PM
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It's been a pleasure to work on this one and I'm very happy with the final mix and video! Congratulation everybody!


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post Jul 16 2014, 03:22 PM
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Nice one!
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post Jul 16 2014, 04:11 PM
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These Collabs just keep getting better and better!!
Great job everyone!
Well done Gab and Cosmin for the awesome editing job and thanks for the comments C-man, all duly noted and taken on board!!
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Man, I found that collab really difficult mellow.gif fun to work on but really tough..... I dont think I'll be invited to join Maiden on stage anytime soon..... unlike Spock of course LOL!


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post Jul 16 2014, 06:06 PM
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Thanks for the feedback Bogdan! Interesting enough, I have not taken that guitar in to be set-up yet - those are even the same strings that came on the guitar. Gab did a great job of editing these different takes together and I especially enjoyed when two solos were overlapped in parts - great editing there too.

This was fun and I look forward in being part of another one too.

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post Jul 16 2014, 11:06 PM
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Gabriel, thank you for your comments, I can really work on those things. And working on those things means a chance to make progress! smile.gif

My intro sounds off as you mentioned, but when I play it on my daw, it sounds good. I'm pretty damn sure something went wrong when you processed the audio file? Compared to the original take, it's just not the same at all.

https://soundcloud.com/jeroen-van-der-put/gmc-up-the-irons-collab-take-4-jeroen

Anyway,

This collab is full of Great Maiden vibes. I love it.

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post Jul 17 2014, 12:55 AM
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I hate to say it, but yet again, I noticed the same thing as was mentioned with the "Tuning Issues" in your solo? I keep hearing it over and over. You should probably take your guitar to a luthier to have it Re-Intonated as I am pretty sure at this point it's not just a simple tuning issue. sad.gif This is the third recording I've heard so far where it sounds like the notes are just barely out of intonation. The good news is your playing is improving each time!!!!!

On a side note, congrats again on your spiff pics I keep seeing on facebook of Merel Bechtold and others. Great work!!

QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jul 16 2014, 06:06 PM) *
Gabriel, thank you for your comments, I can really work on those things. And working on those things means a chance to make progress! smile.gif

My intro sounds off as you mentioned, but when I play it on my daw, it sounds good. I'm pretty damn sure something went wrong when you processed the audio file? Compared to the original take, it's just not the same at all.

https://soundcloud.com/jeroen-van-der-put/gmc-up-the-irons-collab-take-4-jeroen

Anyway,

This collab is full of Great Maiden vibes. I love it.



I blinked and almost missed the bit of my solo that got used but it's all good, great fun as always! Great job guys!!

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Comments by Gabriel Leopardi


Jeroen:
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Your take was noticeably in the style of Iron Maiden and you captured their vibe really well. The intro section was ideal spot for recording another guitar playing Maiden harmonies. If you don’t have experience with this, I recommend you to check my Iron Maiden Masterclass lesson where I explain how to harmonize guitars and give more info about Maiden’s music.

What I notice is that your guitar/playing sounds just slightly out of tune for some reason. Have you checked your tuning? Maybe your tuner wasn't set to frequency of 440hz? If the guitar is perfectly in tune, it might be that you are pressing the strings with too much force to the frets which can sometimes detune the notes slightly. I would like to ask you if you note this issue, because if you don’t you should add some ear training into your diary routines. You should be able to recognize intervals, triads, chords and the best way to train this is transcribing music by ear, you can even start transcribing GMC lessons!

Another thing that I noted in the intro section is that you have some timing issues starting at 00:11. It seems that the reason is that you are not 100% comfortable with the idea yet, so it needed more practice. It’s a pity because the melody was pure Maiden. Remember to practice the ideas before you record them some more time and focus on details as expression (vibrato, dynamics) and groove/timing. Talking about expression, the long notes on this melody are asking for vibrato! Remember to use this technique that makes this type of phrases sounds cooler!

Solo section : very good idea to start with shredding and bending one note, that really puts in the Iron Maiden flavor. The landing note after the long solo intro note sounds slightly weak against the backing track (0:48-0:50). That lick could utilize a stronger note(s) and when I say stronger, I think mostly about notes that form the chords in the backing played in that section. Those notes always sound "at home". Once again, your ear should be trained enough to make you notice that there are better notes to stay there. The use and practice of triads and arpeggios can help on this topic so I recommend you to give a look at this section from our Theory Board: link

Overall the playing energy and performance of your solo was really good and what I like to name to as "convincing". This is something which can be hard to achieve, especially when the REC light is shining on the camera. Please check the tuning issues with the guitar, that can be very damaging to your playing as for example you might train your ear not to bend to the correct pitch or get used to playing slightly out of tune.

Bleez:

On a very first impression, you had the best guitar tone in this collab. Really organic and suitable for Iron Maiden. The intro section is strong and sounds authentic. The main solo was very good and balanced. I would suggest focusing on the notes which you used to slow down the pace (long bends etc) + the starting, long notes of licks (for example 0:15). The bends felt slightly problematic when it comes to pitch and those sections might need a bit stronger licks to support the solo as a whole. The main problem is that this is a tricky part to solo since we have a diatonic power chords movement that seems to be more like a riff, so in this case, you have to be careful with the notes selection and even more if you decide to use a few long notes. My approach to tricky rock/metal backings is to trust on my ear instead of thinking too much about scales, arpeggios and all that stuff, but I obviously need some trial and error when progressions become difficult like this one. I can hear that the licks starting at 00:26 sound like if you were playing out of scale, and everything becomes better when you decide to follow the power chords. A melody more connected to the chords rhythm and notes would be a safe option.

Try experimenting with those "landing" notes to see which one sounds the best to you and feels that it doesn't have too much tension in it. I think those landing notes are what currently holds you back from strong solo phrasing. Besides this, I think that there are just some timing details in the first half .

You have played over a trickier part of backing and pulled it off - great job there! Kudos again for the tone, really organic!

Spock:
(full take)

Your solo is the most Maiden style in this collab. You used many licks and melodies that remind me of them and you organized them wisely during the whole solo. I think that your solo has a good structure and a balanced combination of shred and melody. The main thing that I think you have to pay attention on your next solos is intonation and pitch of your guitar and/or playing. There are some artificial harmonics, bends and sections that have this problem and the reason can be your guitar or your playing. You must check your guitar tuning if everything regarding strings and calibration is ok, you have to polish your playing and the way you press the strings to be sure that you aren't generating this issue that affects the overall quality of your take. Check from 00:47 to 00:50 and you will hear a bend and a harmonic that have this pitch problem.

You also should pay some more attention to your timing and work on your vibrato since I think that your playing deserves a wider and more consistent vibrato. For this, I extremely recommend you to work on Ben Higgins Vibrato series.

Your tone is very good and I really appreciate the time you dedicated to create the amazing video that you edited for this collab. To summarize, your composing skills are very promising but you must be careful with the intonation of your guitar and playing. Keep on rocking.

Comments by Cosmin Lupu


Huargo:
(full take)

This was a very interesting take! Sounds like Iron Maiden on steroids and its very unique. The sweeping intro is really technical and you pulled it off! It could be played just slightly cleaner but you managed to get it in shape very nicely. The lick that stood out as slightly weaker in the solo, was the one at 0:26-0:30 due to the groove it has which stops the flow a bit yet still feels busy.

If you wanted to create a nice contrast with the blazing fast licks that go before and after that one, you could experiment with adding few melodic, long notes with added expression tools like vibrato or bending. The part at 0:40 - was very unexpected and neoclassical sounding and it acts as a cool build up for the solo that goes after it. The ending solo was very Maiden like, but maybe you could try holding more sustain on the bended double stop notes and minimizing pauses when switching positions. If you want to develop your phrasing a little bit more in the Maiden direction, I think this lesson would be suitable for your level: Janick Gers Style and it has a lot of fast stuff as well as longer notes, precisely the kind of combo in the discussion smile.gif You could also brighten up your tone a bit, as it's too muddy, if you ask me. I am more of a definition dude and this is why I usually like recording with the bridge pickup, as it makes my sound more defined usually, but that's just me wink.gif

Overall - this was a furious and very creative collab take with lots of stuff going on. I really liked how you added your unique style and phrasing to it while at the same time keeping the Maiden vibe by using their signature techniques/licks here and there. Great job!

Sensible Jones:
(full take)

Interesting take, mate! The intro section was the perfect spot for classic Maiden harmonies! Technique wise, it could have been played a bit tighter and cleaner (there are some missed notes and unwanted noises here and there). The part from 0:19-0:44 sounded a bit weaker in comparison to the intro and the main solo and this is most likely due to backing tracking being a bit tricky in that section and that type of backing track which can suck you into it and make you play or try to reinforce the melody which the backing track rhythm guitars are playing. You should take a bit of time to analyze the chords being played there and the possibilities that could arise from the sheer trickiness of the track - you never know what sort of creative idea could spring out smile.gif

What makes it tricky is that the melody which rhythm guitars play is not very suitable or strong as the lead guitar melody and needs a different lead approach for squeezing the best effect on the listener. The main solo was very nicely done and I really liked the tapping ending - technically, please focus on the bending pitch and cleaning up the unwanted noises using the muting technique on the strings that are not being played. Your tone is clean and I can hear the defined notes, so nothing much I'd add there. Maybe you'd wanna take one of Ben's lessons dealing with bending and vibrato for a ride: Ben's Vibrato Odyssey - it's a great series that will hone a lot of your articulation skills! Overall, authentic Maiden vibe - great to have you in this collab, Neil!

Ulrik:
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Great to see you participating in this collab, Ulrik! The intro solo had a very good idea, but technically, there are timing issues which break the flow a bit. Please try focusing on the hammer-on/pull-off combinations, as these seem to throw you off a bit, or maybe even cut a few notes here and there to help go through the passages with a stronger flow. The main (ending) solo was very similar to the intro one and I noticed that you are playing in the same position on the neck. This limits the potential of the solo a bit and makes it slightly flat, so maybe try contrasting sections starting on lower parts of the fretboard and building up towards a climax. You could do it by finding out how to connect two or 3 scale boxes smoothly. Maybe working on some legato will definitely strengthen your left hand for the future collabs and I think that the best drills are definitely Ben's: Ben's Land Of Legato - this one may look easy at the beginning, but it's not smile.gif It'll work your fingers very hard! As for the tone - it's definitely very 80s style, although I'd take the highs a bit down a notch, if you ask me, but overall - really nice solo and it had a sort of 80s vibe due to effects and phrasing.

Gentlemen! Thank you for making this collab happen! We are looking forward to having you on the next one as well, but in the mean time, take a little time to implement our thoughts above in your playing and I'm sure you'll take one step forward on your wonderful journey.

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post Jul 17 2014, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jul 16 2014, 03:11 PM) *
These Collabs just keep getting better and better!!
Great job everyone!
Well done Gab and Cosmin for the awesome editing job and thanks for the comments C-man, all duly noted and taken on board!!
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Anytime, man! It was Gabi's merit for the editing, so kudos to him! smile.gif

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 16 2014, 11:55 PM) *
I hate to say it, but yet again, I noticed the same thing as was mentioned with the "Tuning Issues" in your solo? I keep hearing it over and over. You should probably take your guitar to a luthier to have it Re-Intonated as I am pretty sure at this point it's not just a simple tuning issue. sad.gif This is the third recording I've heard so far where it sounds like the notes are just barely out of intonation. The good news is your playing is improving each time!!!!!

On a side note, congrats again on your spiff pics I keep seeing on facebook of Merel Bechtold and others. Great work!!




I blinked and almost missed the bit of my solo that got used but it's all good, great fun as always! Great job guys!!


Hey Jeroen - I agree with Todd here smile.gif Maybe a ride to the lutier could make a difference for that beautiful guitar you have. Congrats on the progress man - it's visible and audible! Keep rocking and hope to see you on the next one as well wink.gif


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post Jul 17 2014, 09:04 AM
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Thanks Todd!

(Although I'm not Jeroen Aarts, the photographer. smile.gif ) hahahaa


QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 17 2014, 01:55 AM) *
I hate to say it, but yet again, I noticed the same thing as was mentioned with the "Tuning Issues" in your solo? I keep hearing it over and over. You should probably take your guitar to a luthier to have it Re-Intonated as I am pretty sure at this point it's not just a simple tuning issue. sad.gif This is the third recording I've heard so far where it sounds like the notes are just barely out of intonation. The good news is your playing is improving each time!!!!!

On a side note, congrats again on your spiff pics I keep seeing on facebook of Merel Bechtold and others. Great work!!




I blinked and almost missed the bit of my solo that got used but it's all good, great fun as always! Great job guys!!



QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 17 2014, 08:52 AM) *
Hey Jeroen - I agree with Todd here smile.gif Maybe a ride to the lutier could make a difference for that beautiful guitar you have. Congrats on the progress man - it's visible and audible! Keep rocking and hope to see you on the next one as well wink.gif


Thanks Cosmin. Yep, will do that. Get the guitar checked out. And i'm going to buy a new tuner. I don't trust the tuner i have.

I forgot to mention that I'm honoured to play the intro on this collab with Gabi.

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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jul 16 2014, 07:06 PM) *
Gabriel, thank you for your comments, I can really work on those things. And working on those things means a chance to make progress! smile.gif

My intro sounds off as you mentioned, but when I play it on my daw, it sounds good. I'm pretty damn sure something went wrong when you processed the audio file? Compared to the original take, it's just not the same at all.

https://soundcloud.com/jeroen-van-der-put/gmc-up-the-irons-collab-take-4-jeroen

Anyway,

This collab is full of Great Maiden vibes. I love it.



Hi Jeroen, I think that this take also has tuning issues and I'm with Todd about the reason. Maybe your guitar needs some calibration or change of strings. There is also another thing that I note in the track that you shared. The backing track sounds with a very low quality, it has some "flanger" that appear because of the conversions. If you are playing and recording over the backing sounding like that, it will more difficult to play tight and on pitch.

What's the process since you download the backing and you record your solo?



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 17 2014, 01:56 PM) *
Hi Jeroen, I think that this take also has tuning issues and I'm with Todd about the reason. Maybe your guitar needs some calibration or change of strings. There is also another thing that I note in the track that you shared. The backing track sounds with a very low quality, it has some "flanger" that appear because of the conversions. If you are playing and recording over the backing sounding like that, it will more difficult to play tight and on pitch.

What's the process since you download the backing and you record your solo?


I download the track and import it in FL Studio without any conversion. I record my solo using a Shure 57 microphone which goes through a Behringer mic 200 microphone pre amplifier. This goes into my M Audio audiophile 2496 sound card. That signal is used in FL studio where I record guitar as a separate track. After some mixing, if needed, I export the track as a 16 bit wave.. Iron Maiden collab was recorded with 2 guitars. The intro with a Gibson LPJ and the rest with a PRS Torero..

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post Jul 17 2014, 04:26 PM
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Process sounds fine smile.gif Most notes sound in tune. Just a few sound a few cents off. I'd give the guitar to luthier for a check.


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I download the track and import it in FL Studio without any conversion. I record my solo using a Shure 57 microphone which goes through a Behringer mic 200 microphone pre amplifier. This goes into my M Audio audiophile 2496 sound card. That signal is used in FL studio where I record guitar as a separate track. After some mixing, if needed, I export the track as a 16 bit wave.. Iron Maiden collab was recorded with 2 guitars. The intro with a Gibson LPJ and the rest with a PRS Torero..



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As Todd said, the recording process sounds 'by the book' so I will only underline the fact that seeing the luthier is pretty much the best choice you can make right now smile.gif

The luthier should become a close acquaintance - he is your guitar's doctor, after all and as much as we don't like going to see the doctor for ourselves, we know it's for the best. I for one, am taking my guitars for a check each year, even if nothing sounds wrong with them - it's like seeing the dentist each 6 months - you don't need to have teeth trouble, but you still go and have a check, right?

Making a good habit for your guitars out of this will only prove useful and I am sure that if you find a good luthier, he will not charge that much, if you go regularly.


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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jul 17 2014, 09:09 AM) *
I download the track and import it in FL Studio without any conversion. I record my solo using a Shure 57 microphone which goes through a Behringer mic 200 microphone pre amplifier. This goes into my M Audio audiophile 2496 sound card. That signal is used in FL studio where I record guitar as a separate track. After some mixing, if needed, I export the track as a 16 bit wave.. Iron Maiden collab was recorded with 2 guitars. The intro with a Gibson LPJ and the rest with a PRS Torero..


As the guys said, the recording process sounds good, there is nothing to improve. Maybe Soundcloud has made the backing sound that bad on the last audio that you shared. It usually lowers quality of audio so it can be the reason.

If you want to be sure that your guitar doesn't need a change of string or calibration, you can use a very precise tuner and check each string opened and then playing frets 5, 9, 12 and 15. If every fret sounds well tuned on every strings, your guitar is ok, if not, it needs a change of strings and/or calibration.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 20 2014, 01:12 AM) *
As the guys said, the recording process sounds good, there is nothing to improve. Maybe Soundcloud has made the backing sound that bad on the last audio that you shared. It usually lowers quality of audio so it can be the reason.

If you want to be sure that your guitar doesn't need a change of string or calibration, you can use a very precise tuner and check each string opened and then playing frets 5, 9, 12 and 15. If every fret sounds well tuned on every strings, your guitar is ok, if not, it needs a change of strings and/or calibration.


Gabi's method for checking sounds like a very accurate one. Usually, when you can play a chord that does sound in tune on a guitar which is slightly detuned, orviceversa - tuning the guitar's open strings nicely and then when you want to play a certain chord, the guitar will sound detuned.

Try Gabi's test and then you'll know for certain if you need to take it for a visit at the guitar doc wink.gif


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The PRS is perfectly in tune, the Gibson however is not. The intonation needs to be checked after a pair of new strings. I'm bringing it to my tech guy this week to have it checked. I have one setup free of charge after a half year buying it. I bought it in february, which means that now is the perfect time to bring it smile.gif

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As the guys said, the recording process sounds good, there is nothing to improve. Maybe Soundcloud has made the backing sound that bad on the last audio that you shared. It usually lowers quality of audio so it can be the reason.

If you want to be sure that your guitar doesn't need a change of string or calibration, you can use a very precise tuner and check each string opened and then playing frets 5, 9, 12 and 15. If every fret sounds well tuned on every strings, your guitar is ok, if not, it needs a change of strings and/or calibration.



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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jul 21 2014, 05:59 PM) *
The PRS is perfectly in tune, the Gibson however is not. The intonation needs to be checked after a pair of new strings. I'm bringing it to my tech guy this week to have it checked. I have one setup free of charge after a half year buying it. I bought it in february, which means that now is the perfect time to bring it smile.gif


Hey Jeroen - glad you figured things out wink.gif Take the girl for a visit then, now that you have the means to do it for free. How much does a setup cost normally where you live?


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My guitar doctor charges 50 euro for a full setup. And where you live?

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Hey Jeroen - glad you figured things out wink.gif Take the girl for a visit then, now that you have the means to do it for free. How much does a setup cost normally where you live?



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