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post Jan 22 2015, 11:12 PM
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Alo Cosmin,

OK, another take, I'm doing more video than just sound now, I am gradually becoming more comfortable with the REC button. Slowly, slowly catchee monkey wink.gif

Still some unwanted noise and some fluffed chords but I think it is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1WGiNb7g8Y...eature=youtu.be



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Hey Phil!

I think you cleaned it up pretty nicely, man! No more unwanted sounds, but I think you should definitely work on the timing now - some of the chord changes are not dead on and you have a tendency to rush some strokes of the right hand, thus creating the impression that the playing i a bit ahead of the beat. Please try to stay as dead on the beat as possible - that's pretty much what you need to cover, in order to get this one done!

Keep it up!

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Hey again, mate!

Your tune sounds pretty manic and descriptive to me biggrin.gif As for what you are doing, it sounds like a riff built around the B minor pentatonic scale out of what I can figure out. Let's dissect it together a little, shall we? What chords are you using in there? smile.gif

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Alo Cosmin,

I'll sort the chords out this evening. I think sometimes it is good for an instructor to see someone playing things of their own making, not just to see any level of creativity but sometimes skills show through that aren't apparent when trying to play someone else's piece. Hope that makes sense.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 23 2015, 08:12 AM) *
Alo Cosmin,

I'll sort the chords out this evening. I think sometimes it is good for an instructor to see someone playing things of their own making, not just to see any level of creativity but sometimes skills show through that aren't apparent when trying to play someone else's piece. Hope that makes sense.

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That actually makes A LOT of sense wink.gif We can never 100% imitate one's style, simply because we are ourselves and not that other person! You have made a great assumption, Phil wink.gif Looking forward to see what your conclusions are, on the chords!


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Alo Cosmin,

So can you see anything that I am doing that you didn't think I could do? I think my right hand looks much more relaxed than when I have don'e anything else.

Anyway, the chords are:

B C# B C# A B C# E C# B C# E D# D (All 6th string root)

E D E B (All 5th string root)

I know I could have played it all with 6th string root chords but I didn't realise that until I wrote the chords down this evening rolleyes.gif

Ok I have noted that the C# and D# are not in the B minor pentatonic but the C# IS in the normal minor scale.

Is it ok to have this D# chord in the piece? I like it in there but it isn't correct as far as I can tell with my very limited knowledge of theory.

When I came up with this piece I fiddled around until I found what I wanted, I didn't think of any theory as I don't know much, how much does it matter that things "fit" into a certain scale?

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Alo Cosmin,

I just noticed that in the last video I had left the video sound on from the camera mic lol, oooops.

Ok here's another, I'm gradually getting more comfortable with the REC button smile.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kSPmu3chU...eature=youtu.be



I'm hoping I can put this to bed this before you leave, it's a big big struggle for some reason rolleyes.gif .

I have to build a new PC tomorrow too.

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Hey Phil!

I have checked out the video and I can still note some timing and unwanted noises

See 0:05, 0:17 - 0:19, 0:21, 0:24 - 0:27 (you're going a bit ahead of the beat here), 0:30 - 0:36 still rushing a tiny bit.

As I said, you need to take care on being very precise with the chord shifts and with the groove of the piece - have you tried to play along with Ben? It will surely work on the groove and you will just need to pay attention to playing as clean as possible wink.gif

About your piece - I noticed that the first phrase has A and B not B and C# - am I right? smile.gif The B minor pentatonic has the B D E F# A and B minor scale has the C# and the G but the D# is a major third which you probably used as a passing tone. Theory should be used to understand what you are doing and to communicate with others or to chisel a creation, but the creation itself, should be something that comes from the soul and it should be heard in the mind first smile.gif So, your course of action is the right one, if you ask me biggrin.gif

IF you like how that D# sounds there, it's all good!


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Alo Cosmin,

Ok, the new bits for my PC haven't arrived so I'm here, mind you it took me an hour to get this one working, bloody corrupt hal.dll file then once that was fixed I had some other major issues so basically wasted an hour grrrrrrrrrrrrr mad.gif

You are right I must have been dyslexicolated rolleyes.gif , the chords are:

A B A B G A B D B A B D C# C (All 6th string root)

E D E B (All 5th string root)

For some crazy spaced out reason (too much JD?? laugh.gif ) I was taking note of where my third finger was so even though I was playing power chords rooted on the 6th string I was naming them from the 5th string position but with the 6th string note at the fret where my finger was on the 5th string blink.gif . I'll never understand why I did that so I'm not going to try laugh.gif

My apologies if I confused you.

Another video below. I have played along with Ben and I have also recorded along with Ben, I think it's one of those pieces that sets the panic in my head so I rush to get to the next bit so I don't miss it. I seem to have a tendency to do that for some reason. It's also one of those pieces that I have to concentrate hard on and then I don't relax, I also find it hard to listen to the backing track for reference points, basically I don't think I'm feeling the groove if you know what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFC12Wa0y14...eature=youtu.be



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Alo Cosmin,

And another one from tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVPsDMDVIUw...eature=youtu.be



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Hey Phil!

You got on the other side now biggrin.gif You are rushing a bit and you are raising your hands too quickly off the positions so it sounds like someone is chasing you when playing. It's cleaner tho, but, lay back a little and try to feel the groove, mate. Playing alongside Ben a little bit more should be a good way to solve things. In the recording that you did before this one - I guess that one you did with Ben's recording, right? - things feel a lot more groovy, so try to nail that feeling - as I said, the more you play it with Ben's recording, the more you will get it in your system smile.gif Deal?


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Deal mate cool.gif

One thing i want to ask though. Is there anything you see/hear in "The Chase" that reveals something you thought was beyond my current ability?

I'll try to get another video to you before you leave, this is a tricky one for me, I do seem I struggle with timing on chords.

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Hey Phil,

About the Chase - it sounds more natural than anything you have played so far - just like in the acse of the collab take, most likely because it's yours. That doesn't mean you should stop working on lessons, it just means you should dedicate time to creating music and implementing the things you learn in the lesson in your creations wink.gif Time usually solves a lot of problems, if spent right biggrin.gif


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Thanks Cosmin,

I have watched it a couple of times and I notice how relaxed my right hand is, chugging away. There are a couple of choked strums in there at the 0:06 mark, this was what I did on purpose but wasn't thinking about it, I do it every time I play it, what I think though is that if they were in a lesson and I had to analyse it I would probably struggle, I would probably struggle with the strumming pattern too. This is why I think it is good for a teacher to see this kind of thing.

Anyway, I'm going to spend a lot of time just playing along with Ben, hopefully I'll get a video to you before you stop mentoring, if not Gab may take over from where you left off.

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Hey Phil - once again, it's all about what feels instinctively natural to us smile.gif The bad part about it, is that if we do not strive to learn other things and make them sound natural, we will become redundant.

You haven't reached that point yet, but for instance, when you would only know 4-5 licks and repeat those in all your solos on a 12 songs album, it would be pretty obvious. That's one reason for which you are training, by practicing things which push you further and further, so that you won't become redundant at some point smile.gif


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Alo Cosmin,

I fully understand and there's no way I will give up lessons, they give you skills and ideas. I have also put a first take into the AC/DC collab, it's pretty bad but I put it in there wink.gif

I enjoy the lessons but it's more difficult when they don't feel at all natural, I know this is one of the hurdles to overcome that's why I keep plugging away even though I moan about it rolleyes.gif

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Alo Cosmin,

Unfortunately I have had computer issues, I haven't been able to record. I was going to do a new build earlier in the week but put it off until you stopped mentoring but now I am forced to do the build today. So I'm sorry that I didn't manage to get the power chord lesson to the REC zone before today but these things happen eh? rolleyes.gif
I think I've realised something regarding my impatience, it's possibly down to the fact that you guys make everything look so simple smile.gif . its the old thing about watching anyone who is proficient, you often think "I could do that" laugh.gif watch a potter throw clay onto the spinning wheel and create a tall shapely vase, it looks so easy, then you try and it ends up in a heap laugh.gif I can't believe it's took me so long for the penny to drop with guitar. I apologise if my impatience has offended you. Read Bens thread "How long until I can play like you?". I remember being offended once by a young upstart, I had been doing a certain job for around fifteen years working to +\- .005mm and I I was having to work late one day to get a job done as I was going on holiday the next day. This young lad who was a trainee said to me, "if you want me to stay with you for twenty minutes after work, you can quickly show me the ropes and I can do the job while you're on holiday", I said " its OK thanks" but I was thinking "who the f*** does he think he is, it took me years to get to this level!".
Anyway, I wish you well on your new path, don't be a stranger. Will you still be judging in the REC zone ?
All the best mate. Thanks for everything you helped me with for guitar and beyond.
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Hey Phil,

Well, that's surely one very good perspective on things wink.gif I for one have learned on my own skin that if you want to be good at something, you have to practice and stay hungry for that thing. Be consistent and things will come your way when the time is right - I know it sounds like a big mumbo jumbo esotherical heap of thingies, but that's how it is. The great Musashi said that one needs about 11000 days of practice (tanren) in order to become a master in his Way.

I leave you with this book: http://www.bookoffiverings.com/ - read it from the beginning from time to time and strive on perceiving the abundence of wisdom it shares each time. It can act as a guide that keeps you on your Way smile.gif

See you around, Phil!

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