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Phil66
post Nov 27 2014, 08:36 AM
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Alo Cosmin,

The HT1 has an ISF control but sometimes, depending on the guitar I am using, I want a bit more treble so I put the guitar through the ME80 and just use the EQ. There is a section on the ME80 that is just EQ without any pre-amp in the circuit, eg, tweed, metal etc.

http://www.blackstaramps.com/products/ht-1rh/

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post Nov 28 2014, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 27 2014, 07:36 AM) *
Alo Cosmin,

The HT1 has an ISF control but sometimes, depending on the guitar I am using, I want a bit more treble so I put the guitar through the ME80 and just use the EQ. There is a section on the ME80 that is just EQ without any pre-amp in the circuit, eg, tweed, metal etc.

http://www.blackstaramps.com/products/ht-1rh/

Noroc

Phil


Now it all makes sense smile.gif If you can use just some things from the ME80 and complete the HT1 tone with them, then that's sweet smile.gif However, I still don't know what could be causing the hum - maybe some bad cable? What sort of cables are you using?


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post Nov 29 2014, 09:48 PM
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Alo Cosmin,

I am using Whirlwind Leader cables, not pro quality I know but I am sure a lot of the issues are from the shitty mains.

Noroc buddy.

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post Nov 30 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 29 2014, 08:48 PM) *
Alo Cosmin,

I am using Whirlwind Leader cables, not pro quality I know but I am sure a lot of the issues are from the shitty mains.

Noroc buddy.

Phil


Hey mate - what exactly do you mean with mains? Main cables? Never heard about these cables, but I had lesser quality cables which were not causing trouble, so if you don't want to invest any extra cash into the idea, I think you can try your luck with some 15-20 bucks cables which will work fine for home recording. I had Cordial, which worked fine smile.gif


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 30 2014, 12:44 PM) *
Hey mate - what exactly do you mean with mains? Main cables? Never heard about these cables, but I had lesser quality cables which were not causing trouble, so if you don't want to invest any extra cash into the idea, I think you can try your luck with some 15-20 bucks cables which will work fine for home recording. I had Cordial, which worked fine smile.gif


Alo Cosmin,

When I say "mains" I mean the wiring in the house. When I had those new pickups in the Epiphone the hum was horrendous, took it back to the shop with my amp and my leads and there was no hum, well, there was only the amount you would expect from a Peavey Bandit on full gain.

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post Nov 30 2014, 02:21 PM
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Thank you Phil smile.gif Well, I never had such issues in the house, but now I understand the problem completely - I believe a rewiring is not something which is planned or possible, right?


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post Nov 30 2014, 06:34 PM
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If your house wiring isn't grounded properly you can get some HORRIBLE hum. I suffer this issue myself. The only answer I've found so far is judicious use of stacked noise gates. I actually use up t four in my signal chain when using TH2. One hardware smart gate and three software gates all set at different spots. It's a huge amount of tweaking but if it's your house wiring as you just indicated, it may be one of your only options. I'd say get an MXR smart gate smile.gif

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Alo Cosmin,

When I say "mains" I mean the wiring in the house. When I had those new pickups in the Epiphone the hum was horrendous, took it back to the shop with my amp and my leads and there was no hum, well, there was only the amount you would expect from a Peavey Bandit on full gain.

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post Nov 30 2014, 08:39 PM
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Here are some solutions for dirty power at your casa ...

http://www.tripplite.com/products/series/sid/825
http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?id=AC-215_PRO

These aren't just glorified power strips. Neither are inexpensive but they have worked for me.


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Hello folks,

Probably looking at around £5000 to rewire the house so no no no no biggrin.gif

Cheers Todd, I'll look into that MXR.

Cheers Klasaine I'll look into those too.

All the best

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The MXR Noiseclamp is a very interesting device smile.gif I saw this video a few years ago and it got me totally hooked:



Notice how the little light in the right corner of the pedal stays on when you are not playing? That's the coolest thing about this little one - it's only active when you aren't playing, so that it won't eat any of your gain while you are actually playing biggrin.gif

@Todd - mate, isn;t stacking all those noisegates eating away at your gain?

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K man has a great point. If you don't already have a decent power filter on the front end, you should get one. Some of the cheaper units really are just glorified power strips. You pay a little extra for noise isolation/filtering but it will help. It won't fix things but it will help smile.gif

COSMIN: The Black Art of noise gating is one I've been working on for years as I love high gain. I use fairly subtle gating which is why I stack gates. Each gate has it's own noise elimination profile and does a certain type of noise removal/reduction so each one is set to it's bare minimum. That way I dont have to be ham fisted with one single gate just crushing my gain or sustain. smile.gif But if I had to pick only one it would be the MXR as it's the most variable in it's control. It's the upgraded version of the NOISE CLAMP unit you mentioned. You can choose to gate only the treble, treble and mid, or full sound, so it's very flexible.



P.S. There is a 2 port version of that very spiff trip lite box which you could then run a power strip out off smile.gif It's a bit cheaper but still has the nice filtering section of it's big brother.

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-ISOBLOK2-...1QMG8NCMV9J0407
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 1 2014, 03:52 AM) *
The MXR Noiseclamp is a very interesting device smile.gif I saw this video a few years ago and it got me totally hooked:



Notice how the little light in the right corner of the pedal stays on when you are not playing? That's the coolest thing about this little one - it's only active when you aren't playing, so that it won't eat any of your gain while you are actually playing biggrin.gif

@Todd - mate, isn;t stacking all those noisegates eating away at your gain?


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I was certain there was a sort of a technique to it biggrin.gif But I had no clue about the new MXR pedal smile.gif Tell me Todd, do you think that it can bring me more advantages, if we compare it to the ISP Decimator? I am currently using that one and it has served me right so far, but you know how you never know if something a little more evolved can help out better. That idea of the pedal automatically kicking in when you don't play is what attracts me most, but maybe there are some more things to it?

The ISP is a very, very simple device - you turn its only ONE knob and that's it smile.gif


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post Dec 11 2014, 03:39 PM
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Hi!

UPDATE wink.gif

I didn´t bought the GEORGE LS cable, I bought the EVIDENCE AUDIO SIS. Also solder free.
And the PALMER 01 http://www.thomann.de/gb/palmer_pli01_line_isolation_box.htm
And the cables have now a bigger distance to the power supply.

The PALMER is very sensitive and start to hum if the distance to the power supply is to short. So I removed the PALMER from the board and put it directly onto the amp head.

So now, I am almost hum-free wink.gif
But the hissing gets louder mad.gif
So I bought the ISP Noisegate, to reduce the hiss.

Honestly, I would think twice if I would start to build a pedalboard again.

Thanks
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post Dec 12 2014, 05:03 PM
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Hey mate - glad to hear you found a way smile.gif Well, about noise gates, you can talk to Todd Simpson - I know he knows a lot about the topic!


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