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Nov 28 2014, 02:01 PM |
You don't eat sausage in America? Sausages are like our savoury version of the Twinkie ! |
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Nov 29 2014, 06:04 PM |
more control , spoken like a true libertarian You two.. get a room I struggle to see anything negative in what T-Master said though ? |
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Nov 29 2014, 06:47 PM
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You two.. get a room I struggle to see anything negative in what T-Master said though ? there is nothing wrong with what he said , but more control is the complete opposite of libertarian theology http://www.lp.org/platform . I am struggling to see ,If he is a self proclaimed libertarian , which part he stands for. Whilst all of his post in these types of threads talk about more control, more taxes , the government controlling your health care , etc. WE will never get to bottom of who is right or wrong on these issues, since every side has there evidence to back there position up. As any friend of yours and mine would do, we ribb our friends of their inconsistencies of what they say. Is this not true ? |
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Nov 29 2014, 06:52 PM |
there is nothing wrong with what he said , but more control is the complete opposite of libertarian theology http://www.lp.org/platform . I am struggling to see ,If he is a self proclaimed libertarian You're concentrating on the labels though, that stuff isn't as important as the message. Don't make me reach for my pocket Bruce Lee.. I will... I mean it..... Ok, I found him - you asked for it ! 1.11 |
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Nov 30 2014, 03:00 AM |
Sadly, being a "libertarian", isn't as simple as going strictly by the F.A.Q or party platform. Part of the very core idea of LIbertarian ideology is that we are free to think and do as we wish, as individuals. We don't all "Tow the party line" but we all generally paddle in the same direction.
To Wit.... Here is an article where a like minded Civil Libertarian suggest that we give the idea of gun control a fresh look. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archiv...-chance/266336/ there is nothing wrong with what he said , but more control is the complete opposite of libertarian theology http://www.lp.org/platform . I am struggling to see ,If he is a self proclaimed libertarian , which part he stands for. Whilst all of his post in these types of threads talk about more control, more taxes , the government controlling your health care , etc. WE will never get to bottom of who is right or wrong on these issues, since every side has there evidence to back there position up. As any friend of yours and mine would do, we ribb our friends of their inconsistencies of what they say. Is this not true ?
This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Nov 30 2014, 03:03 AM |
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Dec 5 2014, 07:21 PM |
The tension between the pro gun/anti gun lobbies here are intense but mostly one sided as the pro gun lobby has wads of money I wouldn't say it is one sided at all looking at the millions of dollars Bloomberg, Gates, Ballmer, Seattle venture capitalist Nick Hanauer and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. and others spent trying to influence elections in more than 12 states last month. Then there is the majority of national news outlets that get out the anti gun message for free. The NRA-ILA was actually outspent in many states in the run up to the midterms. And it is important to note that the money the NRA-ILA spends comes largely from it's members such as myself (Life Member ) and most likely some of your neighbors. As well as businesses that donate a portion of their profits. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politic...tates/19785161/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-p...on-gun-control/ This post has been edited by AK Rich: Dec 5 2014, 07:32 PM |
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Dec 5 2014, 10:53 PM |
I'd agree with you all the way the lefty billionaires impact election I was talking about the gun lobby in particular the NRA (also funded by billionaires as well as regular folks if we are honest about it) and how one sided the push against gun control is.
Again, I SUPPORT GUN OWNERSHIP AND I OWN A GUN. However, I do not support people who are schizophrenic being able to arm themselves. I know it's going to be a very hard road trying to find the proper balance of liberty vs legislation, but that's what politics is for Just to add something for THOSE OUTSIDE THE U.S. *This is a magazine rack at my local Grocery Store in Georgia I wouldn't say it is one sided at all looking at the millions of dollars Bloomberg, Gates, Ballmer, Seattle venture capitalist Nick Hanauer and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. and others spent trying to influence elections in more than 12 states last month. Then there is the majority of national news outlets that get out the anti gun message for free. The NRA-ILA was actually outspent in many states in the run up to the midterms.
And it is important to note that the money the NRA-ILA spends comes largely from it's members such as myself (Life Member ) and most likely some of your neighbors. As well as businesses that donate a portion of their profits. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politic...tates/19785161/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-p...on-gun-control/ This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Dec 5 2014, 10:56 PM |
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Dec 7 2014, 02:22 PM |
duh Is that a 'Duh' as in "Well, obviously, dumbass" ? If so, that's a bit naughty. I'm taking my ball and going home !! |
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Dec 7 2014, 02:47 PM
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I'm taking my ball and going home !! fine, take your ball, I didn't want to play anyway and I am going to tell my mom This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Dec 7 2014, 02:48 PM |
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Dec 7 2014, 02:50 PM |
School shootings in the USA go back quite a way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schoo...e_United_States Read that list item by item, say go to the 50's and 60's and read each item. Then go to recent times and do the same. It should be clear to you that what we see today was rare to non-existent if you go back 40 or 50 years. Shootings occurred, but not mass shootings. They were personal disputes for the most part, or associated in committing some crime. not loony's deciding to take out as many random people as they do now, for no reason other than insanity. The problem is not guns, we have always had guns. The problem is too much fantasy land entertainment (electronic media) in modern culture (including what we call the "news"). This post has been edited by fkalich: Dec 7 2014, 03:26 PM |
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