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Darius Wave
post Jan 2 2015, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Jim S. @ Jan 1 2015, 11:01 PM) *
Darius I knew something wasn't right about that. No wonder, tempo at 140 is at my threshold for 16th notes... I was counting 1 for every 2 beats. 16th notes is what I was trying to play. I'll give those triplets a feel, it's tricky because I'm forcing control of that hammer on. I just picked up some 10's and I'll send my files asap. Any leniency on the deadline?

Don't live in fear Darius, it won't bite you.... Just kidding. Making you tube videos is a good idea...



he he smile.gif I'm not aware - wasn't considering You could bite tongue.gif I'm glad we could clear things up about the tempo and counting method smile.gif I think You could handle those 8th notes triplets. Give it a try - I think that slight delay from the deadline would be forgiven by other GMC'ers as long as You deliver Your files during final mix process smile.gif I also enjoy to see how well You work on this! Seems like You fight for some extra time to play guitar. That's excellent biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jan 1 2015, 11:19 PM) *
Excellent! We'll leave it at that!
I, too, get what Darius said although if he can fatten the 2nd part up with some delay I think it won't sound so 'thin'!
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Decision is up to You Neil smile.gif I will add the delay for sure. I can dig the idea that Kris pointed - Your akward take can put something different to the collaboration smile.gif

QUOTE (Rhida @ Jan 2 2015, 07:31 AM) *
Some time to work on my solo this morning.

I tried to sum up all the comments I got on this one (Kris, Darius and Cosmin).
I also played with my treble pick-up and I like the sound better. hopefully you will like it too.

Thanks for all your help and patience guys! wink.gif


Being present through all the process of tweaking Your take I can proudly say You made it man biggrin.gif Choice of the pickup position is up to You- though I find it being pretty ok smile.gif Thanx for the patience and all the work Your brought to deliver what we hear today smile.gif

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Jan 2 2015, 08:32 AM) *
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Yeah You tongue.gif But his guilty of posting the take - He knew this could happen smile.gif))


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post Jan 2 2015, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 2 2015, 03:28 PM) *
Being present through all the process of tweaking Your take I can proudly say You made it man biggrin.gif Choice of the pickup position is up to You- though I find it being pretty ok smile.gif Thanx for the patience and all the work Your brought to deliver what we hear today smile.gif


Excellent! Thanks for your kind words darius! smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2015, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 30 2014, 08:38 PM) *
Now let me simply ask You how do You feel about Your take comparing to the very first version? Last few times You asked us about our feedback, now it's time to ask same questions to Yourself nad aprove the solo or make any absolutely tiny details. I think Your solo has got a chill out mood and it leads somewhere - to next solo fox example. If You're satisfied with it, we can leave it this way smile.gif


Well Darius, I'm never satisfied but at the moment my ideas outweigh my ability. I could keep on fiddling for days but I am scared of going away from the essence of what I originally felt from my heart. That may sound pretentious but it's not meant to. If I think of anything between now and the deadline I'll put it up here.

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 30 2014, 08:38 PM) *
No matter what is Your playing skills level - everyone here is wellcome to share his thoughts smile.gif I'm glad You did it. It helps to confirm or deny some conclusions that might be subjective smile.gif


Thanks, I often feel intimidated as a beginner to put my thoughts forward for fear of being told "What do you know?". I know you aren't like that on here but it's part of a mind set. Hope you understand rolleyes.gif


QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 31 2014, 12:03 PM) *
Here is my take:



I was a little bit nervous about this one since I felt the need to deliver something 'perfect', having spotted mistakes in everyone else's takes unsure.gif Since there is no such thing as perfect, this was not a very good starting point in the creative process.

So instead I went for something different and experimented more with the 'singing + guitar lead' concept. I called it "pray" since I accidentally [somewhat] sang that word towards the end.

@ Darius - I did a longer take because I wanted it to provide some value to the viewers of my youtube channel as well. Let me know if you think you can fit it in, in the final mix?


Different but I like it, the guitar playing is awesome. The singing is almost like the Tibetan monks and I mean that with respect. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 30 2014, 11:29 PM) *
Cool, the extra layer definitely gave that push in th ending we were looking for! I think we can settle for this one, very well done! cool.gif


Thanks Kristofer,

Even though it's very simple, I am happy with it for my level of beginnerness cool.gif I am even more happy at how much I enjoyed the process of creating. It's infinitely more enjoyable than lessons but i fully understand why lessons are required to get techniques into your fingers.

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I've just thought, do I need to do a video of the take??? I may have to "mime" over the take I've got recorded laugh.gif Time is short and a few days away have made a little rust appear in my knuckles rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 2 2015, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 2 2015, 03:28 PM) *
Decision is up to You Neil smile.gif I will add the delay for sure. I can dig the idea that Kris pointed - Your akward take can put something different to the collaboration smile.gif

Cool, it'll be interesting to hear it in context with everybody elses takes now!!
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post Jan 3 2015, 12:27 AM
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Here are my file for the collab. From the 2nd version. Thanks! smile.gif


https://soundcloud.com/degroot-2/kris-mas-version-2

https://soundcloud.com/degroot-2/kris-mas-version-2-nb


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post Jan 3 2015, 04:28 AM
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Here are Ye Files! I had to write an entirely new piece but kept the ideas and suggestions given here. What do you think?
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post Jan 3 2015, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (Rhida @ Jan 2 2015, 04:13 PM) *
Excellent! Thanks for your kind words darius! smile.gif


You're welcome - Well deserved wink.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2015, 08:21 PM) *
Well Darius, I'm never satisfied but at the moment my ideas outweigh my ability. I could keep on fiddling for days but I am scared of going away from the essence of what I originally felt from my heart. That may sound pretentious but it's not meant to. If I think of anything between now and the deadline I'll put it up here.


Thanks, I often feel intimidated as a beginner to put my thoughts forward for fear of being told "What do you know?". I know you aren't like that on here but it's part of a mind set. Hope you understand rolleyes.gif



Phil


You cought us wink.gif Yes it's very hard to be an instructor who's trying to help, point the issues and at the same time not being just a rude smartass biggrin.gif I think we understand each other very well and that's what really matters when it comes to development of Your playing. I do like the way You enjoyed the game called "collaboration" smile.gif I hope it was just a start and You'll improve during next collaborations! smile.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jan 2 2015, 10:04 PM) *
Cool, it'll be interesting to hear it in context with everybody elses takes now!!
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You know Neil...If I would be insane a bit....I would simply reverse Your take a make a "horror movie solo" biggrin.gif

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Got it! Excellent smile.gif

QUOTE (Jim S. @ Jan 3 2015, 03:28 AM) *
Here are Ye Files! I had to write an entirely new piece but kept the ideas and suggestions given here. What do you think?



Ok...now You'll bite me for real Jim tongue.gif To be honest I liked Your previous version better...was more natural and had "that flow". Only thing that was missing was just a little more smashing final but I really loved it.
This one is ok but not compareable to prvious tongue.gif Sorry for being honest. Let's wait for other guys to say what they think. I might be wrong smile.gif

Jim - Ok, have give the honour back...Was listening to Your newest take a couple more times and i8t is nicaley constructed solo smile.gif Only the finish is a bit broken - You somehow break it. Does not sound like the end of conversation nor the introduction of next "speaker" If You know what I mean.

It's a common problem for a lot of players - it's a thing worth working same as any other technique

THE ABILITY TO LEAD THE SOLO so it has a proper tension built and clear ending (2 options to choose - end of all "sentense" with release of the tension to prepare the listener for the end...or...constant tension insceasement to preapre background for next song part like even stroneg bridge or just a chorus with vocals)


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post Jan 3 2015, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jan 3 2015, 02:34 PM) *
You know Neil...If I would be insane a bit....I would simply reverse Your take a make a "horror movie solo" biggrin.gif

Now there's a thought!!!
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post Jan 3 2015, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Jan 2 2015, 09:32 AM) *
You have right, collabs are golden! I really like when I must to do something and I have a deadline. Makes me focus much more, I have more ideas than usual and I learn new things.
Also, I love the fact that this time, wasn't only a collab was a real workshop smile.gif For me the benefit was double because I already added new stuff in my daily practice wink.gif


Agreed, it was very cool to try something new this time! Looking forward to hear the result of your new practice elements!

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2015, 09:21 PM) *
Different but I like it, the guitar playing is awesome. The singing is almost like the Tibetan monks and I mean that with respect. smile.gif


Thanks Phil, I have always wanted to get that monk choir sound, watch this space! =)

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2015, 09:21 PM) *
I've just thought, do I need to do a video of the take??? I may have to "mime" over the take I've got recorded laugh.gif Time is short and a few days away have made a little rust appear in my knuckles rolleyes.gif


No panic, this is an audio collab. I recorded a video just to give something to my youtube followers.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2015, 09:21 PM) *
Even though it's very simple, I am happy with it for my level of beginnerness cool.gif I am even more happy at how much I enjoyed the process of creating. It's infinitely more enjoyable than lessons


Cool, well by the sound of it, it seems several people would want to see more of these kinds of collabs. Great! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Jim S. @ Jan 3 2015, 04:28 AM) *
Here are Ye Files! I had to write an entirely new piece but kept the ideas and suggestions given here. What do you think?


Nice, this sounds great, and it also has some clever guitarist stuff which should please our kind! =)

I don't really agree that the solo is broken towards the end - it feels clever throughout to me.

QUOTE (Rhida @ Jan 2 2015, 08:31 AM) *
Some time to work on my solo this morning.

I tried to sum up all the comments I got on this one (Kris, Darius and Cosmin).
I also played with my treble pick-up and I like the sound better. hopefully you will like it too.

Thanks for all your help and patience guys! wink.gif


Well done in this collab, it is obvious you are serious about your playing Rhida. Keep going like this and remember to play super super super slow when practicing technique.


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post Jan 3 2015, 10:50 PM
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Hey!

My take will be a couple days late since I need to polish the composition a bit.
Hope this is ok with you smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 08:45 PM
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Ok, I don't know whether you need it or not but here's my video. There are some slight out of sync parts, I was playing along with my sounds that you already have and I put the original sounds over this video. Time is very limited today so if you need another I need to know ASAP.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XIG723MRQ...eature=youtu.be



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post Jan 4 2015, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Jan 3 2015, 09:50 PM) *
Hey!

My take will be a couple days late since I need to polish the composition a bit.
Hope this is ok with you smile.gif



It's fine ofr me since it always takes some time to make to final mix but You have to ask other students aince they had to made it to the deadline biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 4 2015, 07:45 PM) *
Ok, I don't know whether you need it or not but here's my video. There are some slight out of sync parts, I was playing along with my sounds that you already have and I put the original sounds over this video. Time is very limited today so if you need another I need to know ASAP.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XIG723MRQ...eature=youtu.be



Phil



This particular collaboration is an audio collaboration but of course it is a great idea to show us how did You play Your take. And of course...cool way to promote yourself on YouTube and similar. This way You can get beck to this video someday and compare Your progress...let's say few years later smile.gif


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post Jan 6 2015, 03:00 PM
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update!


Please take a look at the list and see if You're on it smile.gif Now it's time to review all the files before doing the final mix. Text files are for those who did not post all necessary files. Titles says it all smile.gif

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post Jan 6 2015, 03:49 PM
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I'm not on the list, but you will have my take today wink.gif


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Hey!
Thanks for letting me post my take even if I am late smile.gif
My timing is a bit off, but I felt I shouldn't take more time from you smile.gif
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Hey Darius, hope I ain't too late biggrin.gif Here be my files! Thank you!
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Attached File  Kris_Cos_Full.mp3 ( 1.38MB ) Number of downloads: 73
Attached File  Kris_Cos_Solo.wav ( 3.03MB ) Number of downloads: 32
 


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hey Darius, here's my original take -
[attachment=40441:bleez_1_full.mp3]
[attachment=40442:bleez_1_guitar.wav]

After talking to you earlier about how I couldn't alter the second half to anything I thought was remotely interesting (or good) and going around in circles with it blink.gif I thought Id be as well uploading my attempt which I hated the least wink.gif just incase it worked better for the overall mix.
[attachment=40443:bleez_2_full.mp3]
[attachment=40444:bleez_2_guitar.wav]

thanks dude smile.gif


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post Jan 8 2015, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Jan 6 2015, 03:59 PM) *
Hey!
Thanks for letting me post my take even if I am late smile.gif
My timing is a bit off, but I felt I shouldn't take more time from you smile.gif


Thanks Alex - some feedback for you (no real need to re-record since this collab is closed):

Well done thinking about breathing room in the beginning. My advice to you will be similar to Rhida, you have included a lot of faster passages in there - and I can hear you are struggling to perform them. So I think this is distracting you from playing on time - and this brings your take down.

I would suggest practicing by just playing quarter notes (so no fast notes at all), see video part 1 & 2 here:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beat-Basics/

When that feels comfortable, see if you can play some 8th notes as well (see video part 3). I would also advise to study the whole 'beat basics' lesson carefully.

Finally I want to say it is really smart of you to participate in collabs like these, it will give such an advantage over people struggling at home who do not dare post anything "until they get better". By the the time they "get better" - you will be a pro wink.gif


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 8 2015, 10:33 AM) *
Thanks Alex - some feedback for you (no real need to re-record since this collab is closed):

Well done thinking about breathing room in the beginning. My advice to you will be similar to Rhida, you have included a lot of faster passages in there - and I can hear you are struggling to perform them. So I think this is distracting you from playing on time - and this brings your take down.

I would suggest practicing by just playing quarter notes (so no fast notes at all), see video part 1 & 2 here:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beat-Basics/

When that feels comfortable, see if you can play some 8th notes as well (see video part 3). I would also advise to study the whole 'beat basics' lesson carefully.

Finally I want to say it is really smart of you to participate in collabs like these, it will give such an advantage over people struggling at home who do not dare post anything "until they get better". By the the time they "get better" - you will be a pro wink.gif


Thanks Kristofer for your feedback smile.gif
I will definitely check out that lesson and practice it smile.gif

And actually before posting my take I considered if I should post it or not since I am not 100% proud of it, but as you say it will pay off. I will trust you wink.gif
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 6 2015, 02:49 PM) *
I'm not on the list, but you will have my take today wink.gif



Ha ha! biggrin.gif Sure Cosm! I'll add You. I thought You were very busy and You didn't find time to post a take even though I've seen You said You're in biggrin.gif

QUOTE (bleez @ Jan 7 2015, 09:54 PM) *
hey Darius, here's my original take -
[attachment=40441:bleez_1_full.mp3]
[attachment=40442:bleez_1_guitar.wav]

After talking to you earlier about how I couldn't alter the second half to anything I thought was remotely interesting (or good) and going around in circles with it blink.gif I thought Id be as well uploading my attempt which I hated the least wink.gif just incase it worked better for the overall mix.
[attachment=40443:bleez_2_full.mp3]
[attachment=40444:bleez_2_guitar.wav]

thanks dude smile.gif



Thank You soo much man! I think You underrate Your work wink.gif Even if You feel there is not much of technical stuff, Your solos are still good and have Your characteristic style and tone smile.gif It's not only me who enjoy them smile.gif I'm happy You got convinced to post the files smile.gif

QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Jan 6 2015, 02:59 PM) *
Hey!
Thanks for letting me post my take even if I am late smile.gif
My timing is a bit off, but I felt I shouldn't take more time from you smile.gif



Thanx for the files mate! As Kris said -collab is closed so we are not abel to give You full feedbakc but of course You're in! smile.gif


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