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post Jan 1 2015, 01:51 PM
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I thoroughly enjoy Facebook, and I'm not sure how the web browser version on your personal computer is capable of hacking all your information - but I know that tracking is industry standard via Google. For instance, through Google analytics my company can watch and record someone's entire experience on our site. We can watch their mouse on the screen, know what site they clicked to go to our site from, know what computer system they are using and what they're monitor resolution is as well as where they are located.

I was okay with all of that - because it still can't go into you information from other web browsers or your applications or take control of your computer. I'm sure this is done via worms which are downloaded by disguise in .exe files (which macs will not open), for macs you have to be tricked into installing something - so some malicious software is disguised as a Flash Player update, just got to be on your toes and not trust anything.

But something seems much more sinister with Facebook now, and I'm not sure of what the capabilities are - or if the intrusive software is limited to the downloaded desktop App version of FB messenger and the mobile versions.

If I could be sure the browser version could not be as intrusive as the downloaded and installed Apps, I would keep it - but I just don't know at this point.

Anyway - incase you've been in the dark, here's a great article of just how much FB is asking you to allow them to rummage through your dirty laundry...


WARNING: IS THE FACEBOOK MESSENGER APP SPYING ON YOU?
You need to be aware of this.
http://www.sugarscape.com/celebs/news/a105...-spying-on-you/


or here: The Insidiousness of Facebook Messenger's Android Mobile App Permissions (Updated)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-fiorella..._b_4365645.html


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a few of the most aggressive app permissions you've accepted."

- Allows the app to change the state of network connectivity

- Allows the app to call phone numbers without your intervention. This may result in unexpected charges or calls. Malicious apps may cost you money by making calls without your confirmation.

- Allows the app to send SMS messages. This may result in unexpected charges. Malicious apps may cost you money by sending messages without your confirmation.

- Allows the app to record audio with microphone. This permission allows the app to record audio at any time without your confirmation.
- Allows the app to take pictures and videos with the camera. This permission allows the app to use the camera at any time without your confirmation.

- Allows the app to read you phone's call log, including data about incoming and outgoing calls. This permission allows apps to save your call log data, and malicious apps may share call log data without your knowledge.

- Allows the app to read data about your contacts stored on your phone, including the frequency with which you've called, emailed, or communicated in other ways with specific individuals.

- Allows the app to read personal profile information stored on your device, such as your name and contact information. This means the app can identify you and may send your profile information to others.

- Allows the app to access the phone features of the device. This permission allows the app to determine the phone number and device IDs, whether a call is active, and the remote number connected by a call.

- Allows the app to get a list of accounts known by the phone. This may include any accounts created by applications you have installed.


It's pretty bad - with these cloud drives. Eventually everything will be web based apps, and storing your files on a cloud drive will make more sense and be more "secure" than your own drives. But all anyone is doing is handing the keys to the kingdom to whoever they "trust" to utilize.

The thought that a company is asking your permission to have the capability to rummage through everything from your contacts to your checkbook information and to be able to control your device without your knowledge is appalling to me.

To be able to use Facebook, you could get a cheap tablet and FB would be the only thing installed on it. The tablet would not have cellular capabilities or be networked to any of your other computers - and a piece of black electrical tape placed over the camera. You could not use it for email except for the email address associated with the Facebook account - which you would use an anonymous yahoo account for that.

An option would be one of these...

Amazon Fire HD 8 gig. $99. But it could ONLY be used for Facebook and nothing else.

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post Jan 1 2015, 08:24 PM
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I was aware about the new messenger and I quit using it. Not only new terms of use and access to all information but also the way facebook app and messenger app does affect performance of PC or Mobile. I got rid of it. I'm not satisfied on how thehe things work these days but in this business they semms to be essantial for self-promotion sad.gif


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post Jan 3 2015, 05:12 AM
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So far no strange outbound calls on my call log or my cell phone bill smile.gif Thankfully!! Most Google Android Apps have some shocking things as part of the EULA (end user license agreement) that's meant as a catch all which is sorta what facebook is doing here. Sorta like, "we may need to do whatever we want at some point so don't say we didn't warn ya!"

For me, chopping off facebook isn't such a great option at this point but I"m certainly no fan of their approach to how they treat folks!!! Then again, it's only a matter of time right? Anybody remember MYSPACE?




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I was aware about the new messenger and I quit using it. Not only new terms of use and access to all information but also the way facebook app and messenger app does affect performance of PC or Mobile. I got rid of it. I'm not satisfied on how thehe things work these days but in this business they semms to be essantial for self-promotion sad.gif



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post Jan 3 2015, 09:46 AM
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Well - I kept my FB account after putting it up for deletion.

I purchased an Amazon Fire 6" HD today for $100, brand new, from Best Buy. I downloaded the TOR browser and kept the account.

I deleted FB from all my machines, reset the browsers, deleted the automatic fill-ins from the built in key-chains and deleted the links from all my browsers from all my machines.

The Fire is not connected to my other computers in any way, has no apps, other than stock apps, no contacts, and nothing on it associated with my real name. “Spock’s Fire” is the name on the device.

So - that's what I did to keep FB, which sucks, but I'm glad I still have it at the same time. And to be honest, I could even use the Fire's stock web browser (Silk). I really don't care if FB knows where I'm posting from, but the TOR browser is nice - it shows my IP originating from all over the world and works great - plus it's free.

So if you wish to circumvent some of those intrusive policies - that is a quick, easy and inexpensive way to do it.

oh - and of course put black electrical tape over the two cameras.

The New World Order can snoop all they want to on my Kindle Fire - Have At It!

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post Jan 4 2015, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (Spock @ Jan 3 2015, 09:46 AM) *
The New World Order can snoop all they want to on my Kindle Fire - Have At It!


I don't know if the Fire has this but devices that are voice controlled would need the microphone element to be switched on permanently in order to receive your commands, including you saying something like "device on". The Amazon Echo and Fire TV are voice interactive and connected to the cloud.

There's huge pressure on many of the .com companies to turn a profit, so the screws get turning on the customers and users, often for their information for marketing. Yelp still hasn't made a profit, Amazon hasn't made a profit since is started 20 years ago and Facebook share price is still lower than its initial public offering.

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