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That's a writing rule. The notes are usually grouped to differentiate the beats from the measure and to make it easier to sight read. The beat is based on 4th notes, so if you have 8th notes, they are grouped in 2, if the notes are 16th, they are grouped in 4. Does it make sense?



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Yes thank you Gab, sorry if I ask too many questions.

Ok here is my Hives take, first 20 bars at 80bpm. Fluffed a couple of chords but it's the timing I'm asking about. I think it's ok but your ears will know better.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/hives-20-bars-80bpm

Still struggling along with the Darius solo but really enjoying how hard it is, it is hard but I am slowly progressing, it is not like anything I have ever learnt before, lots of string skipping and diving around the neck, not to mention the dynamics which is probably the hardest to get right. Once I have 12 bars down in some sort of scruffy fashion, I'll send you a video so that you can give me advice if that's ok with you?

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Hi Phil, good job!

The hives lesson is on the right track now, you are playing the riff as it is over the backing. You just have to continue playing it to make it sound tighter and to be able to play it at faster tempos.

About Darius lesson, I'll wait for your video. wink.gif


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You may be waiting a long time Gab rolleyes.gif This solo is a real struggle for me biggrin.gif

Sorry, but the ear training assignment slipped my mind. I have sat here for over half an hour trying to work out number one, for some reason, I keep getting 8th (E) or Perfect 5th (E B ), they both sound close to me but you said that both of them are incorrect so I am lost. I don't understand why this particular interval is so hard for me to recognise, nor do I understand how both of them can sound like they match:rolleyes:

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Hi Phil, it's a 3M, please check it with your guitar and let me know if it's clear now.



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Thanks Gab,

I wouldn't have got that in a million years. I can hear the E matching but not the G# at all huh.gif . I thought that Major 3rd was my strongest interval because I was getting those the quickest before.

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Yeah, but maybe it's tricky on lower strings, don't you think so?



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To be honest I'm not sure, this is the first one where I haven't been able to hear each note in tune with the guitar. All of the other, once I had found it, I could identify each not with the guitar. Strange huh.gif

Ok, this is scruffy but I've had a go at The Hives Style, first 20 bars at full speed. Somehow, rhythm works best for to learn this way whereas lead seems to work best with me learning the whole thing slowly and scruffy and then speed and refining at the same time. Weird I am laugh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/hives-20-bars-full-speed

Still working hard on the Darius solo but my fingers just don't seem to want to go where his do laugh.gif I guess for years and years I've noodled with the minor pentatonic scale shape that has the root on the E string. My fingers protest at going out of that box rolleyes.gif

I'll get there, slowly but surely I will climb this mountain cool.gif

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Hi Phil! Good job with everything! The hives first riff sounds good now, so you are ready to go for the following sections. I think that it's a good idea to work on small blocks and then connect everything so keep working like that.

About expanding pentatonics, it's a must! If you want to make your phrasing richer so it's great to know that this lesson is helping to do it.

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Thanks Gab,

I'm really really struggling with the first 3 notes of bar twelve in the Darius solo, HERE. It's all hard but when Darius plays those notes, they are almost ghost like. Any tips?

I've put a video together, no backing just guitar, I didn't want any distractions. I just hope you can help me. After watching my lst video of this lesson I actually think I've got worse at the first few bars. Maybe this is too much for me at the moment?????



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Hi Phil! This is not sounding bad! I think that it's very promising. There are obvious things to polish, but that's the next step: working on details. At first you should focus on:

- Timing
- Bending

Once you master these two elements, you can start to pay attention to vibrato, dynamics, other ornamentation stuff, and also on that tapped harmonics that are not bad. If you want more info about this technique, check out the explanations on this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Tapped-Harmonics/

I think that working over the backing track is important to be sure that you are playing the rhythm right, so please use the slowly backings but use them. wink.gif


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Thanks Gab

Yeah it's OK but the beginning of bar 12 is so hard to play as lightly and smoothly as Darius does. I understand what you are saying about playing with the backing, I usually do but just threw that together at the last minute when I was finishing because I was so frustrated. I think I will just try to get the rest under my fingers and then refine it later, otherwise I'll just keep stopping at bar 12 mad.gif

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Hi mate, do you mean the bend at fret 18, string 2?



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Hello Gab,

No mate, I mean this part, it is just after 00:24, those first three notes Darius plays so so quick and sooooo softly, like a whispering ghost blink.gif

-----8-----------------------------|
--L-----10------13--15--17------|
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Ah ok, I see. I'd like to see you at least trying to play the part to see how I can help you.



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 27 2015, 04:53 PM) *
Ah ok, I see. I'd like to see you at least trying to play the part to see how I can help you.



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It is there mate, I "play" all of bar 12. It's the last bar I "play" wink.gif




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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 27 2015, 01:25 PM) *
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It is there mate, I "play" all of bar 12. It's the last bar I "play" wink.gif



Ah yeah, now I got it. Well, you are not playing it with the right rhythm. I don't mean that you are playing this slower, you are playing with a wrong rhythm. A good idea would be to use the guitar pro file and play along with it setting a slower tempo. There is a 50% tempo tool there that is good for practising.

Do you get what I mean? I know that you cannot play the lick, but the idea is that you start at a very slow tempo but practice it with the correct rhythm. Then, with repetitions, you'll be able to increase speed.


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Thanks Gab,

I have been trying in GP5 at 50%. I think that basically my impatience is coming back. I must control myself more and try not to rush. I try to get something to you most days but with this solo it is hard. For me anyway smile.gif

I am really enjoying the challenge with this one though, even though it feels totally unnatural to me, I know I will eventually manage it at some level, I just worry that when things take a long long time that you might think I'm not putting the time and effort in. I don't want you to think you're wasting you time with me, maybe this is part of the reason I am getting impatient rolleyes.gif

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No mate, I can note that you are focused and working hard on these tasks. Don't be impatient, keep the hard work, and enjoy the journey because the journey is everything... there will be always a new goal so we need to learn to be happy now! smile.gif


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Thanks Gab smile.gif

Ok, here is my latest recording of the Darius solo. After listening long and hard to it, I have realised another aspect that makes this very tricky. A lot of the notes, even first notes of a lick, don’t start on the beat or even on the offbeat. Like the 12th bar, the first note comes in somewhere in between, I can’t technically explain where it comes in, maybe a 16th after the beat????? The worry I have with this kind of thing is that I will be learning it “parrot fashion” rather than technically knowing when to come in. What I mean is, if I halve the speed I won’t know when to come in with that first note, I guess time will prove me right or wrong rolleyes.gif .

Anyway, here it is, I think it is a big improvement but your ears will know better smile.gif


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