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Hello Gab,

Working out the new version of Rock Steady tonight trying to retrain fingers.

Worked on the Darius lesson and got it under my fingers approximately up to the part below which is a little bit tricky. Also, his tone is incredible, I can't get anywhere close with spending a WEEK at it and then it still won't be close laugh.gif
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I'll leave the improvising for a bit until I get the Darius part down a bit better, hopefully this will inspire me.

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Thanks Gab,
I'm not using the same as Darius because I go via my Boss GT100 into my valve head via the effects loop and either mic it or use the mic emulated output from the head. I don't tend to like messing about with plugins. I also go straight into my GT001 and info my PC but still don't like plugins, they are a time consumer.

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Hello Gab,

No practise tonight. I tried to access the tab for the Darius lesson and got a message saying i need to log in or sign up to view member content. It is as though my membership has run out so i tried to log into my online credit card account to check when I paid but for some reason i got locked out and it said to call them. I've been sitting here on the phone in a queue for over an hour and a half. I'm sure i selected the GMC ongoing subscription so i didn't have to keep renewing, but either way I need to sort it out.

Still sitting here and typing this with one finger while I wait for the stupidly long queue mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Sorry Gab.

UPDATE:

Finally after nearly 2 hours it's sorted. I sometimes think the guitar gods are against me sad.gif To make it worse, the bloody music while waiting was the MOST tense classical I've ever heard not nice relaxing music more like music for a film with someone hanging off a balcony hoping not to get caught by the raiders of their apartment mad.gif

UPDATE 2:

Ok, I feel I need to get something to you, it's looks like I'm not practising but I am working hard on this difficult (for me) task.

Here is a take of the Darius "simple" A Minor soloing. I left a mistake in. My fingers are hurting so it's hard to hold notes at pitch (see pic).
Obviously this needs polishing A LOT but I really felt the need to give you something. I can hear that the bends aren't accurate, I am struggling with even attempting to do vibrato on the bends but I guess that's mainly down to finger strength and needs more practice.
Anyway here it is, warts and all.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-3-a-minor-darius-take-1

That blister is painful and making the bends even harder mellow.gif


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Hi Phil,

great to hear a new take from you. I understand your feeling but there is something important that you need to have in mind. This type of workout is affected when it's stopped so soon and that's what happened with your vacation. I'm not meaning that you've have done something wrong but I want you make you remind you that we just worked for around 25 days and then you had 10 days off. This definitely affects the continuity of the workout and your progress.

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Thanks Gab,

I was surprised that my fingers/brain remembered the Rock Steady rhythm so well, well the incorrect one that I first learned anyway. I picked up my guitar and played it along with the original track without looking at any tab. This Darius one is one of those that sounds simple but is so full of dynamics and subtle techniques that it makes it tricky but hey, if it's not challenging what's the point? So long as it's achievable by me I won't lose tenacity.
I'm going to have to stop the Darius lesson for a day or two because if that blister bursts it will be hard to play anything with bends in.
I feel bad about having my holiday now sad.gif
Cheers buddy smile.gif

UPDATE:
Had a good go at the Rock Steady solo, got a blister on my middle finger now laugh.gif I find version 2 of the TAB much much less user friendly, the solo is different to the one I've been learning too. I think I've sussed out the correct rhythm pattern by listening to the studio recording but the other parts I find easier to use the open chords than jump around the fretboard using power chords. Hopefully I can piece something together that would sound ok to most pub audiences.

For now, this assignment asks for the solo of Rock Steady, the Darius lesson (first 30 seconds) and an improvisation in A minor over the Darius backing. That is what I am going to concentrate on until I pass, hopefully on the second deadline as I don't think I will get enough coins on the Wednesday 17th deadline.

After that hopefully we can re-group with the confusing tabs for the rhythm section.

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Hi Phil! Thanks for the update.

I love the fact that you keep me updated with diary details. This makes me feel much more connected with you in this wonderful music and life journey. smile.gif

Your plan looks perfect to me. I have good vibes about the future of this workout.

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Thanks Gab,

I didn't know if I was doing the right thing with diary updates, I thought maybe it would be a pain for you having to keep reading my ramblings. I like to keep you up to date at least that way you will know that my slow progress isn't because I'm not trying smile.gif

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UPDATE:
Here's another take of the Darius lesson. I think there are improvements over the last take, some of the bends sound pretty close. I always hear that the bends are out when I play back but not so much when I am playing. I'm also struggling with the rakes, I've post THIS in the forum.
The tab below is still the hardest part, lots going on and half tone and full tone bends with vibrato, so hard to fit it all in and get the pitches correct wacko.gif laugh.gif
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I've panned Darius into the left channel. I actually think the last bend is probably the closest.
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Hi Phil, good job! I think that the bends are getting much closer. They are not precise but very close so the workout that you are doing is giving results. Please continue practising this one in this way.

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Thanks Gab,

OK, I've neglected the Rock steady solo a little, this is one of my problems, I get my teeth into something and won't let go, I'm like a bloody terrier with a bone rolleyes.gif
Now I've got the Darius solo under my fingers, I'm going to warm up with it for 15 minutes to try and polish it, then switch to intense learning of the Rock Steady solo. Hopefully I'll get it to the standard I've got the Darius solo to, not award winning I know, but, at least recognisable. Then I'll cram in some improvisation.

I am aiming to get three videos to you on Wednesday evening, as I said, I don't think I'll get 7 coins but the holiday has caused issues.

Cheers buddy.

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UPDATE:
I've got a few more bars of the Rock Steady solo into my fingers at slow tempo tonight, hopefully get the rest tomorrow, then try to get up to tempo for Wednesday but that's a long shot.

I have something very strange happening, I did fifteen minutes of polishing the Darius solo, then 30 minutes learning more of the Rock Steady solo including polishing the bars I already know and adding the new ones a slow tempo. What is strange is that I went back to the Darius solo for 15 minutes but at first I totally couldn't remember it, I know the first note is the same on both solos but I had to listen to the Darius solo again to get it back into my head. I think both of these solos are in the same key and the first note of each is definitely the same, maybe my brain is getting mixed up blink.gif laugh.gif

These past couple of days of intense, 100% focused practise seem to be brilliant. I seem to move forwards quicker. My brain suddenly seems more receptive to new stuff, let's hope it stays switched on smile.gif As I said, I'm not expecting to pass my exam on the deadline but the main thing is I'm TOTALLY enjoying the pressure of deadlines. It really makes you focus biggrin.gif

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Hi Phil! Interesting! I'm really happy to know that you are 100% focused on your tasks. I understand that sometimes we can get confused when working on more than 1 solo at a time, so this is normal. Don't worry.


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Thanks Gab,

Just finished tonight's practise. Seriously frustrated with myself. Last night it went so well and I was so happy, but tonight I'm really struggling with the Rock Steady solo. TabPro version 1, 2nd electric guitar (solo), bars 69-72 are tying my fingers up. Up to that point I've got it ok at 75% speed. I looked at the version 2 solo and it's too different to start to learn it now and it seems less correct than the version 1 to my ears.

Listening to the studio version, WOW, it will take a lot time to get anywhere near that but for now, just getting the notes down is a struggle. I can hear some double stops I think in the studio version that aren't in the TAB on TabPro, well not in version 1 anyway, there are a couple in version 2 but that has just confused me listening to both.

Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to post a video of the Rock Steady solo tomorrow. I will post one of the Darius solo (first 30 seconds) and I'll try to get an improvisation done but obviously I'm not going to pass the exam. I will need my second chance, I've hit a sticking point I'm afraid.

Sorry to let you down Gab, my holiday screwed it all up.

Phil

UPDATE August 17th:
Haven't had chance to post, sorry.
Got a txt from my wife today to say her sister and 7 year old son had visited. Our nephew had asked if he could come out with us tonight, we go to a local pub for a meal on a Wednesday, it's kid friendly and has a play area and kids indoor section so my wife said yes. Her sister left him with my wife for the rest of the day and we took him out.
It was very busy, then we had to take him home which is an hour round trip so I've just got in at 21:05 so going to have a quick practise while wife catches up on her soap opera rolleyes.gif then spend some time together before going to bed around 10:30, 6am start tomorrow.

Sorry, I've really been trying this past few days but it hasn't come to fruition.

Awaiting you comments,

Cheers Gab

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Hello Gab,

There is another post above this in case you missed it.

UPDATE August 18th:

First 30s of the Darius lesson. I'm still amazed at how the REC button sends in the finger gremlins rolleyes.gif

I can hear on playback that I'm off pitch on bends but when playing I don't notice it so much, I am also coming in late in many places, again when playing this isn't noticed sad.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwbEzR8frdw...eature=youtu.be


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Hi Phil,

You've done a good analysis of your playing on this last video. However, I would consider this one passed for the assignment, so we just need the other stuff for the assignment to complete it and move forward.

Remember that the goal here is to get 7 coins. If you get 7 coins, you pass the assignment which means that the 10 days of practice (in this case with extended time because of the vacation) has been totally productive.

About the song. We don't need an exact version of the song. We need a well played interpretation of it, so don't worry to much on details at this point. We have time for exhaustive details.

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Thanks Gab,

That sounds great to me. I guess Mick Ralphs is a bit too hot for me to copy at the moment cool.gif

I'll try to get a "Phil's simple version" to you this weekend.

In the assignment briefing you said "A video playing the licks learnt from Rock Steady Song" by which you meant the solo soI've been really struggling to copy it as though it was for a REC take blink.gif How about a bit of an improvisation using the bits I've already learned and following the lead guitar on the studio version for cues? I'm not going to nail anything anywhere near as good as the original but it may help my development doing it like this as though I'm in the studio with Bad Co learning some tricks wink.gif

I'll regroup tonight, reassess the solo, practice some improvisation and polish the Darius solo a bit more.

I'll do my best Gab.

Thanks


UPDATE 20th August:

For clarification about the assignments. Am I correct in thinking the following?:

1: Any song I learn from a band doesn't need to be an exact copy. It needs good timing; the rhythm needs to be recognisable by anyone that knows the song but I can add or remove some flavours; the solo needs to be in the essence of the original but not a copy. The songs I will learn will have been played by top flight musicians with many many years experience so to copy them will be difficult for the most part unless it is a particularly simple solo based around one pentatonic shape or extended shape.

2: Any of the GMC lessons I learn either in part or in full need to be a REC pass level and if the whole lesson is learned it should be submitted to REC for additional critique.

3: Improvisations need to be the best I can do trying to utilise some of all of the techniques from the lesson the backing track comes from.

Hopefully I've got it right. As this is a new approach for both of us I think it's good to fine tune the system for us and for use with other students. I hope this makes sense.

With the song I'm thinking maybe you want something along these lines. I couldn't put it on SoundCloud as it is detected as copyright material. I've done the whole song and tried to play it all together best I can including an improvised solo and the outro. Even the first few bars of the solo I learnt along with Guitar Tab Pro are hard to play along with the studio version for some reason.
Attached File  Rock_Steady_full_song_take_1.mp3 ( 8.79MB ) Number of downloads: 17

If this is the way to go I'll put a video up as soon as you say so but if it's not what you want then please let me know.

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Hi Phil,

That clarification is applicable to the current assignment but it can be different in future assignments. For the current one it's perfect since it's exactly what many bands do when playing live covers and versions.


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Thanks Gab,
There was an mp3 file in my last post for you to listen to. If that's what you're looking for I can do a video, YouTube is OK with copyright stuff for some reason.
As soon as you let me know I'm on the right track I'll post a Rock Steady video and an improvisation video over the a minor backing.
Cheers
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Update:
This evening I practised my soloing over Rock Steady but more on an improvised way as in the MP3 on my previous post, I also practised improvising over the Darius backing. People who don't play an instrument think improvising is easy because "you just play what you want" I find it one of the hardest things to do, so with the Rock steady solo, I'm between a rock and a hard place, I don't have the skill to play the original solo and I don't have the skill to improvise and make it sound ok laugh.gif Really need to get this assignment wrapped up now somehow. Maybe I've bitten off more than I can chew going for classic rock songs, or maybe I should just get the rhythm part down on a few. At least when that old question from a visitor comes up ("So, what can you play then?" I can play them something they'll recognise, they'd only listen to the first couple of bars anyway laugh.gif

Cheers and thank you for your patience.
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