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Hi Petr! Welcome to our thread for Gab's Army!

Here we will work together in order to take your guitar playing to a new level based on your music goals. Please organize here all the info that about you regarding your technique and theory knowledge, current practice and goals. Please also tell me which are your favorite musicians and bands.



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post Jan 14 2015, 05:19 PM
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Hi Gab,

I have been playing over 3 years now. I can usually practice 1-2 hours a day.
You can see two recent lessons which I worked on with Cosmin.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=53661
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...c=53423&hl=

one older one which failed and I would like to finish it because I have been on it for ages ...
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...c=52726&hl=

I have been working recently also on the lesson which you suggested, but the original tempo is bit fast for me at the moment
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Altern...king-Workout-2/
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/20150108-140

Lessons which I would like to do
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Vo...Of-Your-Guitar/ - another one I have been working on it for ages ... without much success

So it seems that I need to do some level 2 lessons first:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metal-...rs-Megadeth-1/#
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metallica-For-Beginners/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Iron-M...-For-Beginners/ I have worked on this one but can not get my head around the rhythm from 0:20

In general I would like to be able play some covers (lets start with some old Metallica) and work on applying some theory.

Theory - I think most of it has been written somewhere, so I would ask just to pick a topic, give me some link to read and then quick question to test if I got it.

I read the Guthrie's Govan Creative Guitar 1,
topics - scales (maj, min), intervals, chords (triads), chord progressions

I also have "Fretboard mastery" book from Troy Stetina which seems good as well.

So if I use the book Guthrie's as reference,
I read and I think fully understand following pages and topics

pages 48-54
- I can find all notes on the fretboard when starting at zero fret and then moving up but dont remember them by hard
- i know the circle of 5th basics, but dont remember it by hard
- Rhythm - notes length should be all clear

pages 55-60
- major scale pattern (formula)
- intervals (know the basics, but have to count them on fretboard one by one to find them)
- triads - major and formulas for the others - for this and the below, i understand but dont remember by hard
- I know how to name triads which harmonize a scale
- the formula of them I ii(m) iii(m) IV V vi(m) vii(m), typical progressions

pages 61-62
- CAGED - understand but never practiced

pages 63-64
- minor + major pentatonic - know the formula, not much recent practice

So thats about it. Beside taking it further I would like to be able to use what I know already, as I said to be able to find a key, simple chord progression on a song. Also on many things where i said "I understand principle but can not do it instantly" such as find a interval without counting etc - it would be great if you gave me the priorities what are the most important to start with learning.

Looking forward what will be the plan

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Hi Petr, thanks a lot for all this organized material. I understand what you mean and what you are looking for. We should divide your practice routine in two big sections that would be technique and theory applied.

During this first week I would like to suggest this plan:

Technique:

Working on this lesson by Cosmin since it is great for practicing phrasing, vibrato, bending, dynamics and groove. It's not an easy lesson since it has lots of bends and vibrato. Please take it patiently and work on 1 section each day or each 2 days. Dont' try to learn and play the whole things by once. Work on small blocks during the first week.

While you do this, please also play each days at least twice the technique lessons that you already know (picking hand basics, easy megadeth, etc) to keep your diary training.


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Work on Week#1 of the improvisation course. Replay the Vchat to see my explanations and work on the concepts for the first week. Record yourself and share your stuff here.


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Hi Gab,

so here are some recordings,
The "voice" lesson, first part
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/voice-20150121

Because I worked recently on the alternate picking lesson - first part, I would like to continue with it, I hope it is fine to do so
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/ap150-20150121

and also some slow take of the "Neoclassical" lesson
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/neo-20150121

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Hi Petr! Thanks for this new audio files. I can notice that you are doing a very good job, this are really good takes. You are not hurrying, you are working at your level, and focusing on making things sound consistent and clear. Keep working in this way.

Here I'll give you some specific feedback:

The voice of your guitar: Good tone on this one, as well as nice dynamics. You are playing the phrases tight but there is a different in the rhythm used compared to the original lesson. Please check again the rhythm of the first 4 notes of each phrase which is different to the one that you are playing. Besides this, the lesson is evolving well. Keep going.

Alternate picking: Great job with this lesson! Your picking is sounding consistent and tight most of the time. There are only some little moments when your picking moves a bit from the beat. Other than that you are also doing a good job with this one, please continue with the following parts.

Neoclassical lesson: Nothing to fix on this one! Great job! Just start increasing tempo using metronome. Well done!


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Hi Gab,

thanks for the feedback, here is another set

The "voice" lesson, first part. I was not sure what I'm doing differently so I tried to record over original track. Is it still different?
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/voice-20150122

Alternate picking lesson, first part, original backing track
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/ap2-20150122?in=petr-14/sets/20150122a

"Neoclassical" lesson, 90% of orig tempo
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/neo-20150122-90

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Hi Petr, thanks for this new audios.

The "voice" lesson is closer but there is still a small difference compared with the original lesson. If you listen to your recording, you will hear a double note when the third note appears. The original lesson plays this note upbeat and you play it downbeat. Can you hear it in your sample?

The other two lessons are evolving well. Be careful with timing when you practice the neoclassical lesson, and also try to make your bending more precise. Sometimes it is not totally consistent. The lesson based on alternate picking is sounding very good and timing is tight now.

So this means that you just have some details to improve, the overall is really good. Congrats, keep on the great job.


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Hi Gab,

The alternate picking - second part seems much more difficult to me so I have nothing to post yet.

I hope I have fixed the issue with the "Voice" lesson
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/voice20150131?in=petr-14/sets/20150202a

And here is an attempt to the "Neoclassical" lesson
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/neo20150202?in=petr-14/sets/20150202a

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Hi Petr! Great to find new audios from you. I can say that both lessons are sounding good! There is just some room to make the vibrato and some faster section a bit more consistent, but it's just a matter of practice. The "voice" lesson, still has that little difference, and I think that you can notice it comparing the first 3 notes of the lesson and the first 3 notes of your take. You will see that, in the original lesson, the second note is a bit shorter than yours, and the third note is played a bit before.

Here I created a guitar pro file with the original phrase and your version. Please note the difference at the end of measure 1 and beginning of the second measure. Play the GP file to hear it.

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About the alternate picking lesson, what is exactly the thing that is giving you problems?


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Hi Gab,

thanks for the suggestions, here is another try
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/voice-20150209

In the alternate picking lesson is the most problematic part starting at 0:40, when the hand goes from 2nd fret to the 7th fret

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Please check the video part number 5 of the alternate picking lesson. Pay attention to Darius left hand thumb when he plays the part that it giving problems. You will notice that he changes its position and you can't see it anymore. He uses what's is commonly called a classical position for the thumb in order to be able to reach a wider stretch.

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PS: The voice lesson is better but sometimes you tend to forget playing the slide. Please keep on listening careful to the original lesson and sing along the melody to incorporate it.


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Hi Gab,

just to be clear - I was talking about difficulty to move from the 24th to the 25th measure and play it cleanly, not to actually play it on its own.

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Ah ok, yes, this kind of jumps require practice and precision. You just have to isolate the connection and work on it as a loop. You should put your sight on the target a bit before you move to be more precise with the jump, but it's just a matter of practice, there are no short cuts for it.


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Hi Gab,
yes the alternate picking lesson is slightly better now, I will post the recording later.
For now I would like to get some suggestions for

"Neoclassical" lesson - Im not sure if it is any better than last time
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/neo20150225

and also this old Metallica song
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/fwbt20150225

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Hi Petr, how are you?

The neoclassical lesson is evolving well, I note that there are a few things that you could have in mind during the next days of practice:

- Your vibrato could be wider. This style requires notorious vibrato while you are doing a very slight one.
- Your bending is not reaching the correct pitch most of the times, pay attention to it. It's very close, but not there.
- There are two licks that include trills like the one at 00:59. Isolate them and make the trills sounds clearer.


I love that song by Metallica! I used to play it with my friends when I was a teenager! You can play the riffs correctly but your timing is not tight and some palm muting sections are not sounding smooth enough. It's time to go deeper with your timing and put all your focus on it. The main problem appears when you play palm muting riffs, so the best thing would be to isolate them, and work over a drum loop, tapping the tempo with your foot while you practice, to feel the groove.



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Hi Gab,

please cab you check if the Metallica song is any better?
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Metallica - For whom ....
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/fwbt20150321

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QUOTE (petr @ Mar 21 2015, 07:22 PM) *
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please cab you check if the Metallica song is any better?
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Metallica - For whom ....
https://soundcloud.com/petr-14/fwbt20150321



Hi Petr! This is a better take on this killer song!

Your riffing is more precise than your previous take. However there is still work to do mostly regarding timing. I note that the main problem appears when you go from one section to the following one (for example at 01:19, 01:52). So working on connecting one part with the other could be a good idea. That's riffing section starting at 01:52 is the weaker one, it's not totally tight most of the time. Also focus on details and make that every chord change goes tight with the drums, mostly when you have fills like at 00:28.

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This one is also on the right track. I think that there must be a string out of tune on this take since there are section in which I hear pitch issues but not related to bending. I think that the overall lesson is sounding good and that there is only room to make this one sound with more feeling and dynamics. This two elements are related to bending, vibrato and the use of different intensities with your pick to make it sound more organic. These are not thing that are learnt in a few days so be patient and keep this lesson on your diary practice while you start some other lesson that cover the elements listed.


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Hi Gab,
what do you think, does it have any chance to pass in the REC zone?



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Hi Petr, I think that this one needs more time to polish some details but also think that it would pass on REC. You shouldn't see REC as program in which you have to pass, it's a program where you receive feedback from many instructors at the same time so I strongly recommend you to post this take there.

Your vibrato looks good but you are doing it too soon. Remember to let the note sound first and then start the vibrato trying to make it sound like a natural part of the note. The last phrases could be polished a bit more, I think that it's the part that needs more practice, in order to make it sound smoother.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 2 2015, 12:48 PM) *
Hi Petr, I think that this one needs more time to polish some details but also think that it would pass on REC. You shouldn't see REC as program in which you have to pass, it's a program where you receive feedback from many instructors at the same time so I strongly recommend you to post this take there.

So once again, go for the REC! smile.gif


Hi Gab,
thanks for the feedback.

I just think that because you are doing perfect job here on the mentoring thread, there is no point sending the takes to the REC zone until they are at least close to the pass level. Sending some garbage to the REC seems to me like wasting of the time of the other instructors smile.gif

I have been on the "Neoclasic lesson" for OVER a YEAR smile.gifsmile.gif now and it seems to me really too much smile.gif so passing it would mean that I can start on something else.

Please can you check this video, Im practising there the down picking required for the Metallica song. I know it is not perfect, I just want to ask if im not doing something obviously wrong regarding hand position etc.



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