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Nick6373
post Feb 6 2015, 01:58 AM
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Hey everyone, I was wondering about some suggesting for improving the distance I can reach since my hands are pretty small.
I figure the best advice I can get is just practice and play but just incase I decided to ask XD.

I can reach from fret 6-11 fairly easy (around the middle of both frets) but if I'm actually playing I can't implement a reach that length into my playing, especially not at fast speeds. When I actually have my hand in my playing postition I can reach the edges of 6-11 (beginning of 7th fret and end of 10th fret is what I mean by edges) but it's painful to do and the notes are kind of muted and sloppy since I'm usually right on or near the frets and can't put enough pressure down on the frets a lot of the time.

Any advice?
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post Feb 6 2015, 06:55 AM
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Here is a KILLER thread all about the physicality of playing guitar including stretching smile.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=53571


Also, here is a vid of stretches that I do before EVERY Practice that really helps my reach.



Beyond that I'd say take is slow, and practice! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Nick6373 @ Feb 5 2015, 08:58 PM) *
Hey everyone, I was wondering about some suggesting for improving the distance I can reach since my hands are pretty small.
I figure the best advice I can get is just practice and play but just incase I decided to ask XD.

I can reach from fret 6-11 fairly easy (around the middle of both frets) but if I'm actually playing I can't implement a reach that length into my playing, especially not at fast speeds. When I actually have my hand in my playing postition I can reach the edges of 6-11 (beginning of 7th fret and end of 10th fret is what I mean by edges) but it's painful to do and the notes are kind of muted and sloppy since I'm usually right on or near the frets and can't put enough pressure down on the frets a lot of the time.

Any advice?
Thanks!



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post Feb 6 2015, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 6 2015, 01:55 AM) *
Here is a KILLER thread all about the physicality of playing guitar including stretching smile.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=53571


Also, here is a vid of stretches that I do before EVERY Practice that really helps my reach.



Beyond that I'd say take is slow, and practice! smile.gif

Todd


Omg Todd I can't believe how far back your hand goes!!!! Wtf man
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post Feb 6 2015, 06:07 PM
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Iremember the petrucci book had a few stretching sort of exercises.



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post Feb 6 2015, 06:13 PM
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Yeah, John Petrucci's Rock Discipline definitely has some stretches in it that works your fingers. Well worth getting that DVD/book if you haven't already. Lots of good exercises as wel.


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post Feb 6 2015, 11:57 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll research his book a bit. Also nice video Todd, I never really actually thought of stretching haha. I'll have to try that.
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post Feb 7 2015, 12:05 AM
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Hehehehe, yeah smile.gif It didn't start out that way but after several years and years of stretching before every practice, you get really flexible! smile.gif


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Omg Todd I can't believe how far back your hand goes!!!! Wtf man



Give it a shot! smile.gif Try to stretch before each practice session and do some light stretches to cool down after smile.gif


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Thanks guys, I'll research his book a bit. Also nice video Todd, I never really actually thought of stretching haha. I'll have to try that.



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post Feb 7 2015, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 6 2015, 07:05 PM) *
Hehehehe, yeah smile.gif It didn't start out that way but after several years and years of stretching before every practice, you get really flexible! smile.gif






Give it a shot! smile.gif Try to stretch before each practice session and do some light stretches to cool down after smile.gif


That's pretty inspirational actually. Check this out.... Crazy
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post Feb 7 2015, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (Jim S. @ Feb 6 2015, 11:09 PM) *
That's pretty inspirational actually. Check this out.... Crazy

Wow that's awesome. That stuff is actually way harder to do than it looks like (at least for me haha)
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QUOTE (Jim S. @ Feb 7 2015, 01:09 AM) *
That's pretty inspirational actually. Check this out.... Crazy


Wow, that's crazy. A lot of those I can't do at all!


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QUOTE (Nick6373 @ Feb 6 2015, 07:48 PM) *
Wow that's awesome. That stuff is actually way harder to do than it looks like (at least for me haha)



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Wow, that's crazy. A lot of those I can't do at all!


I have done some of these and went way overboard quick. Seriously seriously sharp lightning pains that I never ever ever want to feel especially when you pull back the ring finger and wiggle your others.

Actually after doing it now I exagerated a lot but there is pain that burns inside of my arm.
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post Feb 7 2015, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE (Jim S. @ Feb 7 2015, 06:10 AM) *
I have done some of these and went way overboard quick. Seriously seriously sharp lightning pains that I never ever ever want to feel especially when you pull back the ring finger and wiggle your others.

Actually after doing it now I exagerated a lot but there is pain that burns inside of my arm.


That's a sign one has to stop, I reckon!


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post Feb 7 2015, 05:19 PM
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My reach is pretty good. My hands are very average sized for my height (5' 9")
I just got there by doing it.
Mostly reaching for big chords.
I personally don't believe that any 'off the guitar' exercises help in any way. *Unless you're recovering from an injury.


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post Feb 8 2015, 07:02 AM
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Well, to each his own smile.gif But I have to disagree on this. I"ve benefitted greatly from doing stretches before and after playing. IN fact, it was NOT doing stretches before and after that led to my getting CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME. So I do suggest everyone do some light stretching before and after playing smile.gif


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My reach is pretty good. My hands are very average sized for my height (5' 9")
I just got there by doing it.
Mostly reaching for big chords.
I personally don't believe that any 'off the guitar' exercises help in any way. *Unless you're recovering from an injury.



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post Feb 8 2015, 04:41 PM
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I'll amend my statement to say that if you immediately go for the stretches or speed w/o warming up a bit (on or off your instrument) then yes, you'll most likely hurt yourself at some point.

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post Feb 8 2015, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 7 2015, 06:19 PM) *
My reach is pretty good. My hands are very average sized for my height (5' 9")
I just got there by doing it.
Mostly reaching for big chords.
I personally don't believe that any 'off the guitar' exercises help in any way. *Unless you're recovering from an injury.


Mind sharing some of those chords? smile.gif It'd be cool to practice some big chords!

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 8 2015, 08:02 AM) *
Well, to each his own smile.gif But I have to disagree on this. I"ve benefitted greatly from doing stretches before and after playing. IN fact, it was NOT doing stretches before and after that led to my getting CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME. So I do suggest everyone do some light stretching before and after playing smile.gif


Ouch, I had a friend who never properly got over his carpal tunnel syndrome. He quit playing guitar in the end. He used to practice many, many hours a day but never did any proper warm up or stretches I think.


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post Feb 8 2015, 05:14 PM
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Sure.

Gmaj7 - 3X5477
Gm13 - 377333
Gadd9 - 357433

If/when you can do those move them down to the 1st fret.
If at the 3rd fret they're too much, move them up a few frets.

Am9 - 5XX413 (try it up two at the 7th fret if 5 is too tough)

C9sus4 - X35763 (barre at the 3rd fret)

*Get the Ted Greene book chord chemistry or the Alan Holdsworth book just for the curious. Lots of (almost) impossible chords in those.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 8 2015, 06:14 PM) *
Sure.

Gmaj7 - 3X5477
Gm13 - 377333
Gadd9 - 357433

If/when you can do those move them down to the 1st fret.
If at the 3rd fret they're too much, move them up a few frets.

Am9 - 5XX413 (try it up two at the 7th fret if 5 is too tough)

C9sus4 - X35763 (barre at the 3rd fret)

*Get the Ted Greene book chord chemistry or the Alan Holdsworth book just for the curious. Lots of (almost) impossible chords in those.


Thanks! smile.gif

My main problem is my middle and ring fingers. They don't really want to spread more than 1 fret around the lower frets or 2 frets around the 12th fret. It's something I don't really know what to do about.


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post Feb 8 2015, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Feb 8 2015, 08:31 AM) *
Thanks! smile.gif

My main problem is my middle and ring fingers. They don't really want to spread more than 1 fret around the lower frets or 2 frets around the 12th fret. It's something I don't really know what to do about.


Sometimes practice helps/adapts/changes your technique, sometimes it doesn't. Depends on your physiology.
You guys all play faster than me, I play bigger chords. Vive la difference!


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post Feb 10 2015, 01:46 AM
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Sorry to hear that sad.gif CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME is pure evil. But it can be avoided just by warming up with some stretches and cooling down with some stretches, and some frozen peas smile.gif


QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 8 2015, 12:14 PM) *
Sure.

Gmaj7 - 3X5477
Gm13 - 377333
Gadd9 - 357433

If/when you can do those move them down to the 1st fret.
If at the 3rd fret they're too much, move them up a few frets.

Am9 - 5XX413 (try it up two at the 7th fret if 5 is too tough)

C9sus4 - X35763 (barre at the 3rd fret)

*Get the Ted Greene book chord chemistry or the Alan Holdsworth book just for the curious. Lots of (almost) impossible chords in those.


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