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Sounds good - I will look through these and pull some exercises smile.gif

Next cover is going to be a full cover of So Cold by Breaking Benjamin:



Here is a quick tone test (although the playing is sloppy, it's not as bad as I thought it would be for only practicing the song for a brief time)

https://m.soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/so-cold-cover-tone-test

I think the clean is pretty close - the lead I need to work on a little more - and the distortion sounds okay to me


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post Aug 15 2016, 02:07 AM
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^^Since that cover is going to take me a while I decided to work on some "fillers" or easy covers to keep things flowing.

This is one of the very first songs I tried to learn on guitar - I learned it in Drop D because I was too stupid to figure out how to tune to Drop C haha tongue.gif

I decided to do it justice and make a proper cover smile.gif



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Hi mate! that Ramstein cover sounds killer!! Are you playing it over the full song? or you've found a track without guitars?

About the BB song, it's a really cool song, and from what I can hear in your sample, your guitar tone is very close. Are you going to do the mix of all instruments?





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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 15 2016, 06:38 PM) *
Hi mate! that Ramstein cover sounds killer!! Are you playing it over the full song? or you've found a track without guitars?

About the BB song, it's a really cool song, and from what I can hear in your sample, your guitar tone is very close. Are you going to do the mix of all instruments?

Thanks man smile.gif

It's the full song - so it's a blend of my guitars and the original. I bump up the levels of my tracks so they stand in front of the original, instead of being drowned out by it.

I will most likely end up doing the same for the BB cover.



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Hi Chris, that sounds good! I was wondering how you make those guitars sound that big but now I understand that it's your guitar added to the mix. biggrin.gif


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Another easy cover in the works - this song is the song I played my girlfriend to show her I like her smile.gif

Artic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know?

Tone test:

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/do-i-wanna-know-covertone-test



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I love this song!! The tone sounds very close. smile.gif


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'Tis a good song! I plan on having it done for my girlfriend's birthday September 16th smile.gif

On a side note - YOU HAVE TO CHECK THIS OUT! tongue.gif wink.gif

So you know how a big part of my problem is tracking progress, well I found something that blew me out of the water!

Here is a little jam I did called "Hear Our Cries" BEFORE I started working with you on GMC:

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/hear-our-cries-soooo-old

And here is my new take of that same song AFTER working with you on GMC:



So on that note I would like to THANK YOU! I still have a long way to go but I can hear a difference in everything from mix quality, melody, blah blah blah smile.gif

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This is totally awesome man! This before/after stuff is totally impressing! Congratulations on your hard work here!

I think that this could be inspiring for other students. Is there any problem if I share it at the Practice Room?



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 27 2016, 08:37 PM) *
This is totally awesome man! This before/after stuff is totally impressing! Congratulations on your hard work here!

I think that this could be inspiring for other students. Is there any problem if I share it at the Practice Room?

Couldn't have done it without you, man!

I don't mind you sharing it - hopefully anyone who is unsure if they want a mentor will change their mind smile.gif

EDIT: Alright so one thing I am noticing - I can practice a speed picking lick or whatever, and I will get good at that lick, but when it comes to actually creating my own speed licks I don't even know where to begin.

For example, for the hear our cries idea, I wanted to have some quick little passages here to fill some gaps but where do I begin?

Any advice?

Thanks man smile.gif

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Cool question! There is not 1 way to work on this but here is an idea.

Our improvisation skills are similar to our speaking skills. There more we do it, and the more we hear other people doing it, the more tools we have to express ourselves clearer. When talking, we don't learn phrases by our own, we learn it from other people (we could also learn it from books but that's not natural) so I would apply this principle to guitar playing.

I would identify passages in my favourite players that are similar to the ones that would fit in my soloing and that I feel that my playing is lacking. Try to find around 3/5 possibilities, learn and practice them as exercises. Once you can play these ideas at tempo, try using them (or variations of the licks) in those wholes that you have. With the pass of time, this passages will become more and more natural.

Let's start with the first step:

- Identify 3/5 licks that would fit in what you feel you are lacking.


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Hey Gab, long time no see!

I've been following you on Facebook, I'm glad to see you and your band are doing well! smile.gif

As for me, I've been busy with school - I decided to study to become an electrician instead of taking on producing (it's near impossible to find any production work wear I live).

But I haven't come back empty handed - I have a new song in the works!

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/the-monster-that-youve-made-of-me-rough-backing-track

Featuring the same vocalist on my last song - Goodbye

The Monster that You've Made of Me

Behind these eyes
It rains with tears to wash away
The lies, you deny
Your picture perfect alibi

Where I must pretend
All of this is in my head
Where I must pretend
This "fairy tale" will never end

But I'm done pretending
If you're done pretending
Are we done pretending
There's truth to your lies?

This storybook ending
Is so close to ending
There's no more containing
The monster inside

Don't you see
All the pain that you have caused me?
Don't you see
The monster that's inside of me?

Won't you see
What this pain has done to me?
Won't you see
The monster that you've made of me?

The monster that you've made of me? x4

Behind these lies
I'm forced to wear this perfect smile
And all of this while
You beat me, and hit, convince me your sorry

All of these scars
The weakness buried deep inside
All of these scars
I'll wear with pride to turn the tide

'Cause I'm not a victim
I won't be a victim
I won't be a victim
Of your little game

I'm done pretending
If you're done pretending
There's no more containing
The monster inside

Don't you see
All the pain that you have caused me?
Don't you see
The monster that's inside of me?

Won't you see
What this pain has done to me?
Won't you see
The monster that you've made of

Come and see
The monster that's inside of me
Come and see
The monster that you've made of me

The monster that you've made of me

Song should hopefully be done and mixed within the next few weeks smile.gif

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Hi Chris! Nice to hear from you mate! I think that's a good move if you think that the commercial potential was very low there. The producer career is sometimes that requires time, it's a long and slow journey.

The track is very promising! I can hear that this keeps your composing style. Are the vocals melodies already composed?





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Hey Gab!

I got your message - there is some news with my playing but not much. I restructured 'The Monster That You've Made of Me" however, the vocalist I wanted to hire (the one who did Goodbye) left the studio and the remaining vocalists don't seem to be a good fit.

Recently, I went through a breakup so I decided to channel that energy into a new track I am working on called 'Lost':

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/lost-idea

It's in Drop C# which I've never composed a song in before. The only lyrics/vocal melody I have is for the chorus:

Love is lost
A stranger in the dark
Erased with time, forever
History will not remember

I was lost
I could not be saved
An angel without her wings
Falling for eternity

Alone
Lost
Falling forever

I've been keeping busy with song writing and composing, however, when it comes to practicing it feels more like work than anything, with no enjoyment. I guess that's just a phase all musicians go through now and again though.

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Hi mate! Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry about the breakup.

For any reason, the song Goodbye is always the next song from everything I play on Soundcloud so I keep listening to it a few times each week. I'm a fan. biggrin.gif

I'm now checking your new track and I like it. It sounds very promising and it's related to the other track. I can get that Evanescence New Metal feel on this one too. The same singer would really fit.

I'm fine thanks! We are on the mix of our 4th album with Cirse, so nice things are coming. I'll be on vacation the next week so I'm finishing everything before going.



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 25 2017, 06:22 PM) *
Hi mate! Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry about the breakup.

For any reason, the song Goodbye is always the next song from everything I play on Soundcloud so I keep listening to it a few times each week. I'm a fan. biggrin.gif

I'm now checking your new track and I like it. It sounds very promising and it's related to the other track. I can get that Evanescence New Metal feel on this one too. The same singer would really fit.

I'm fine thanks! We are on the mix of our 4th album with Cirse, so nice things are coming. I'll be on vacation the next week so I'm finishing everything before going.

Wow, it means a lot to me that you like Goodbye - thanks man!

Glad to hear about the new album, man - you guys just keep getting better and better!

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My latest two creations:

A cover from my favorite band Stabbing Westward:




And a birthday present I am working on for someone. It's an instrumental cover of Marilyn Manson's Coma White, built from the ground up. It's my most ambitious cover yet and I want it to be perfect haha!

It's a work in progress but if you can give me any critique on what I have so far I'd super it appreciate it, man!


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Hi Chris! Great pair of songs! smile.gif

That one from Stabbing sounds killer! Good job with those rhythms.

An Manson's tune is GREAT! I love it. It's definitely one of my favorite tracks from him. The arrangement is very promising. I think that it's essential to find a killer guitar tone for those leads so I would put a lot of effort on tone and performance. Also, drums should sound outstanding so once you have the track, wotk on making them more unique and less "ez drummer" type.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 13 2017, 04:47 PM) *
Hi Chris! Great pair of songs! smile.gif

That one from Stabbing sounds killer! Good job with those rhythms.

An Manson's tune is GREAT! I love it. It's definitely one of my favorite tracks from him. The arrangement is very promising. I think that it's essential to find a killer guitar tone for those leads so I would put a lot of effort on tone and performance. Also, drums should sound outstanding so once you have the track, wotk on making them more unique and less "ez drummer" type.

Thanks Gab!

I'm curious as to what your opinions/suggestions are for the lead tone?

To my ears, I feel there is too much reverb - I think I need a good amount to match Manson's tone in the song but the Cathedral setting is a bit too much. I also feel like there might be too much gain for the verses, maybe even the chorus.

Any advice?

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Yes, I agree about reverb and gain. Try replacing some of that reverb with Delay. You could combine a Plate reverb with delay. I also thing that it could sound warmer so some EQ work would be good too unless you are referencing with John 5 tone who uses more "highy" balance.



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