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post Apr 3 2015, 04:18 PM
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Kristofer thank you

I am disappointed , I have ideas that I can not do what I want.
The track is short and I need to learn to manage it.
I'll try again tomorrow on the Long BT, but the video will be for Sunday.

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post Apr 3 2015, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 3 2015, 04:18 PM) *
My gear is :

Guitar : Fender Stratocaster Mexican " Lone Star"
Sound card : " Edirol FA- 66"
I use Cubase and Guitar Rig


yeah !! we share the same gear, as the FA-66 from roland and GR 5, i use a ART lamp preamp and some other guitars

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post Apr 4 2015, 10:58 PM
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Here is another look at my take with a few slight changes made, mainly in the opening phrase. It is not played exactly as I would have liked and has a few minor mistakes, basically just in the way I played it. There is an accidental pinch harmonic at about 25 seconds and the short line at about 47 seconds I didn't quite play how I wanted. I think I can still play it a little better if I can find some more time to record before the deadline but if not , this will have to be my final take.

https://soundcloud.com/richatthelake66/eye-opener-collab-20

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post Apr 5 2015, 07:58 AM
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Hi Ak Rich

Very Nice, i Like it !


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post Apr 5 2015, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 4 2015, 10:58 PM) *
Hi Ak Rich

Very Nice, i Like it !

Thank you MisterM! smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2015, 09:24 AM
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yes MM is right, it's pretty nice

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post Apr 5 2015, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Apr 5 2015, 12:24 AM) *
yes MM is right, it's pretty nice

Laurent

Ahh! Thanks to you as well Laurent! smile.gif
I like your improv style you have been showing us here. Some really nice off the cuff phrasing!

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post Apr 5 2015, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Apr 5 2015, 09:28 AM) *
Ahh! Thanks to you as well Laurent! smile.gif
I like your improv style you have been showing us here. Some really nice off the cuff phrasing!


thankx a lot

i'm already searching about the right one, but i'm depleted, this morning, i cannot do something without false notes.... awfull

seem to be stuck sad.gif

i have done these yesterday if i'm right, may a miracle can occure ! who knows ?





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post Apr 5 2015, 04:45 PM
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Hi all

Nice Laurent, keep on rock my french friend wink.gif

My last Take, I tried to play with Jam BT 5 mn, it's too long for me.
I preferred to keep my concentration in order to give better licks.



Without BT

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post Apr 5 2015, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Apr 4 2015, 10:58 PM) *
Here is another look at my take with a few slight changes made, mainly in the opening phrase. It is not played exactly as I would have liked and has a few minor mistakes, basically just in the way I played it. There is an accidental pinch harmonic at about 25 seconds and the short line at about 47 seconds I didn't quite play how I wanted. I think I can still play it a little better if I can find some more time to record before the deadline but if not , this will have to be my final take.

https://soundcloud.com/richatthelake66/eye-opener-collab-20

Thanks, I think you managed to improve both of the places I spotted (intro and 00:40). Both of these could still be played with further conviction - but it's obvious you are going in the right direction by yourself, and this basically means you just need lots of more playing time and you will you will bump up your over all level.

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Apr 5 2015, 09:52 AM) *
thankx a lot

i'm already searching about the right one, but i'm depleted, this morning, i cannot do something without false notes.... awfull

seem to be stuck sad.gif

i have done these yesterday if i'm right, may a miracle can occure ! who knows ?





Laurent


Hi Laurent, great!

I preferred Nr1, this one feels like you. And I think you keep improving with every new every take, making them more musical every time. Well done!

Nr2 felt more like a practice session where you tried to get adventurous with new licks. This is exactly how you should practice, however when recording something for a real-life musical context (which our collabs are - and this is the whole purpose with them) then you should go for whatever makes you feel comfortable. Because when you feel comfortable, that's when you relax and therefore play with much better timing (etc etc).

QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 5 2015, 04:45 PM) *
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Nice Laurent, keep on rock my french friend wink.gif

My last Take, I tried to play with Jam BT 5 mn, it's too long for me.
I preferred to keep my concentration in order to give better licks.



Without BT


Beautiful! As mentioned before you use the pauses really well. Someone said the music happens in the pauses, and you illustrate so tastefully.

Also well done choosing the right moment to apply more dynamics and reach out for the higher notes.

Excellent!

QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 3 2015, 04:18 PM) *
Guitar : Fender Stratocaster Mexican " Lone Star"
Sound card : " Edirol FA- 66"
I use Cubase and Guitar Rig


I am amazed every day what tones software now can deliver, very cool!


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post Apr 5 2015, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 5 2015, 09:19 PM) *
I am amazed every day what tones software now can deliver, very cool!


yes, software modelisation is very advanced, mathematics models are accurates, processor are powerfull since several years, so let's go.
i use GR5 too with the same FA66 firewire as MisterM, i garantee very low latency and we can play as with real stuff.

and it take no room.... wink.gif

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post Apr 5 2015, 11:03 PM
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Kris: I finished my take and I tried to keep a good timing. I made a vid because I want to post this on my YT channel and FB. I don't know why but it's the first time when I'm very attached about an improv.

You had right about the tone and because it's a dynamic one, even if I pick more than softly will be a volume difference between picked notes, hammered and fingered notes. I made millions of experiments and every tiny touch (and trust me I really can pick very softly) it's too loud heard. I must make a compromise and I will let at this moment the tone without technical changes because was my homework for this collab.

With one single thing I wasn't agree with you and I really hope you will not mind (about that unintentional swing from 00:38). My purpose was to be a little after beat. If I make this right on the beat will change the idea over the lick conception and I will be forced to add one or two extra notes. Maybe it's not a wise timing chose but I like in this way and you know that I always say when I have a different opinion. Please forgive me if this it's a mistake. I promise I will "wash my sins" in a next collab wink.gif
Big thank you for that 0:44, now with that faster bend release sounds good and I love it smile.gif



Attached File  Backing__Guitar.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 21

Attached File  Only_Guitar.mp3 ( 1.09MB ) Number of downloads: 22


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post Apr 6 2015, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl)
Beautiful! As mentioned before you use the pauses really well. Someone said the music happens in the pauses, and you illustrate so tastefully.

Also well done choosing the right moment to apply more dynamics and reach out for the higher notes.

Excellent!


Thank you Kristofer

Your comment makes me proud of my work.
I liked to play longer on the jam track but it's too much work.

Thank you for your advice and dynamism you give to GMC.


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Hi Monica

Good job smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2015, 09:18 AM
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Hey guys, I was wondering if I could have some advice on what I have for the first half of the collab before I go on to the second?
https://soundcloud.com/nick-peacock-7/eye-opener-collab-idea-1
Everything after about 30 seconds is just backing track.
Thanks!

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post Apr 6 2015, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Apr 5 2015, 11:03 PM) *
Kris: I finished my take and I tried to keep a good timing. I made a vid because I want to post this on my YT channel and FB. I don't know why but it's the first time when I'm very attached about an improv.

You had right about the tone and because it's a dynamic one, even if I pick more than softly will be a volume difference between picked notes, hammered and fingered notes. I made millions of experiments and every tiny touch (and trust me I really can pick very softly) it's too loud heard. I must make a compromise and I will let at this moment the tone without technical changes because was my homework for this collab.

With one single thing I wasn't agree with you and I really hope you will not mind (about that unintentional swing from 00:38). My purpose was to be a little after beat. If I make this right on the beat will change the idea over the lick conception and I will be forced to add one or two extra notes. Maybe it's not a wise timing chose but I like in this way and you know that I always say when I have a different opinion. Please forgive me if this it's a mistake. I promise I will "wash my sins" in a next collab wink.gif
Big thank you for that 0:44, now with that faster bend release sounds good and I love it smile.gif



Attached File  Backing__Guitar.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 21

Attached File  Only_Guitar.mp3 ( 1.09MB ) Number of downloads: 22


Great Monica, you managed to improve a take which was already cool to start with. Over-all I could hear you play with much more conviction in this take. Well done and great video as well!

QUOTE (Nick6373 @ Apr 6 2015, 09:18 AM) *
Hey guys, I was wondering if I could have some advice on what I have for the first half of the collab before I go on to the second?
https://soundcloud.com/nick-peacock-7/eye-opener-collab-idea-1
Everything after about 30 seconds is just backing track.
Thanks!


Awesome to have you in Nick!

I think it is fresh to hear you play some real "out" notes - the most noticeable at 00:26. This can (and will) work - but - it increases the demand for a powerful resolution. In other words: what comes after something weird should be super strong, in order for that weird part not to be perceived as a mistake.

So in your case I would really want a powerful melody or some strong notes to come after 00:26 . If you manage to pull this off you will have a very fresh and original take.

Other than this - I perceived you tone as a bit over distorted for this kind of backing track. So maybe listen to the other takes, see which ones you like, and then try to dial in something a bit more smooth and dynamic.

Keep going, I am looking forward to hear what you come up with!


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post Apr 7 2015, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 6 2015, 05:09 AM) *
Hi Monica

Good job smile.gif

Thank you so much smile.gif I also like your approach because it's beautiful and very melodic.


I listened all of the takes and I really love what I heard. Every take has a different approach which gives a different color over the backing. I hardly wait to hear the final mix smile.gif

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 6 2015, 09:08 PM) *
Great Monica, you managed to improve a take which was already cool to start with. Over-all I could hear you play with much more conviction in this take. Well done and great video as well!

Your feedback made my take to shine and I'm more than grateful for this. I just followed your advices and I had more time to become safe and relaxed in playing. Thank you from my heart for all your help smile.gif You are awesome!
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QUOTE (MisterM @ Apr 6 2015, 06:09 AM) *
I liked to play longer on the jam track but it's too much work.


Ok, keep working on the shorter ones and eventually a longer jam will "fall into place". I am very much looking forward o following your progress!

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QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Apr 7 2015, 06:35 AM) *
Thank you so much smile.gif I also like your approach because it's beautiful and very melodic.


Thank you Monica biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 7 2015, 07:40 AM) *
Ok, keep working on the shorter ones and eventually a longer jam will "fall into place". I am very much looking forward o following your progress!

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Any more takes? The deadline is approaching!



Thank you Kristofer

For me this is the last take .
I have not the time to begin another . Wait to see the final mix....


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for me also, tell me what take you want with guitar only, i'll send it to you smile.gif

maybe the 1st of the last batch ?

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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Apr 7 2015, 03:13 PM) *
for me also, tell me what take you want with guitar only, i'll send it to you smile.gif

maybe the 1st of the last batch ?

tell me

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Yes, that one is probably my favorite!


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