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Phil66
post Jul 13 2015, 08:02 PM
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Hello Gab,

OK, you may class this as cheating but I think it is a good idea as a training aid to get the real feel of triplets as I think it's hard for the beginner's mind to do an equal three part split on the beat.

Now if my maths is correct, I set the metronome to 3/4 time at 240 bpm, this should equate triplets in 4/4 time at 80 bpm. I used the metronome to get the feel while I was playing along with the backing.

Do you think this is ok to do for the first stages to get the feeling of pure triplets and then try again without the metronome but, when recording without the metronome, play back with the metronome to see how well you have done?

PLAYING WITH METRONOME
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-3-using-metronome

PLAYING WITHOUT METRONOME
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-3-without-metronome

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OOOPS! blink.gif Ignore the file name that says 90bpm, they WERE 80bpm DOH! laugh.gif

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post Jul 14 2015, 08:51 PM
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Another go, bit faster.

WITH METRONOME 90bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-using-metronome

WITHOUT METRONOME 90bpm
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/triplets-90bpm-without-using-metronome

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post Jul 15 2015, 05:40 PM
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Hi mate, this is getting better! Yeah, that metronome idea is a good trick to get familiar with this rhythm. However I noted that your performance is similar on both versions, and maybe even better on the "without metronome" one, since the other is a bit like "hurried". Do you note it?


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post Jul 15 2015, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 15 2015, 05:40 PM) *
Hi mate, this is getting better! Yeah, that metronome idea is a good trick to get familiar with this rhythm. However I noted that your performance is similar on both versions, and maybe even better on the "without metronome" one, since the other is a bit like "hurried". Do you note it?


Thanks Gab,

I could hear a difference but couldn't work out what it was rolleyes.gif I found that if I played along with the metronome for a while it helped me to "understand" the feeling of a triplet.

Off out for a midweek meal, back later hopefully wink.gif


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post Jul 15 2015, 07:49 PM
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i finish my two lessons about triads, and i'll come back here !

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post Jul 16 2015, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 15 2015, 01:59 PM) *
Thanks Gab,

I could hear a difference but couldn't work out what it was rolleyes.gif I found that if I played along with the metronome for a while it helped me to "understand" the feeling of a triplet.

Off out for a midweek meal, back later hopefully wink.gif



yeah, maybe it's good to use it at first to feel the triplet and then play without it. Good trick. wink.gif


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post Jul 26 2015, 07:58 PM
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ASSIGNMENT V

Ok guys! This new assignment will be based on a GMC lesson from our archive that combines some of the rhythms that we've been covering here: 8th notes, 16th notes and triplets. The lesson is great for alternate picking but it's also a very good excuse to work on your timing skills.

I recommend everybody to start with the slower backings and go for the normal tempo only if you feel comfortable with the previous ones.

This is the link to the lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

Feel free to share your takes over the slower backings to let me monitor your progress.

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post Jul 26 2015, 11:07 PM
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Wooohooo, that's my weekend workout that I haven't been doing.
Now I'll have to get stuck in.
Nice one Gab wink.gif


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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 26 2015, 07:07 PM) *
Wooohooo, that's my weekend workout that I haven't been doing.
Now I'll have to get stuck in.
Nice one Gab wink.gif



hehehe ok, you can work on it as soon as you get back from vacation.


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Back but I've been so busy. Will be on it tomorrow.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 2 2015, 05:28 PM) *
Back but I've been so busy. Will be on it tomorrow.

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Ok mate, thanks for notifying. wink.gif


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post Aug 4 2015, 11:56 AM
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i'm in the assignement V

edit:

i have done that, the end part seem to be played almost correctly but the sound preset seem so weird....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/test-rythm

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Hi Laurent. Thanks for the take!

I think that you should work on a slower backing because you are still not able to play the faster parts at the current tempo. So please go for the first or second backing shared on the original lesson, work on it for a few days until you notice that you can play the 16th notes and triplets tight and share a new take, ok?


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it's allright !

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Quick take on this:



I feel like I'm slightly behind the beat all the time. Hmmm...

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Hi Cael! Great to find you working here!

You're right, you are not going tight with this one, you tend to go a bit before the beat. This happens with each note value so you definitely need to continue working on this assignment, and maybe give a try to some of the previous ones.

The tasks seem to be easy but they are not. Keeping this kind of practice in our every day practice routine can have a very important impact in our overall playing.


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Hi Gabriel,

here's my first work. I think I 'm in front of timming huh.gif
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Hi Farine! Great to see you working on this one!

As you've already noted, you are playing before the beat, you are not going even. Here are some tips to continue working on this.

1. Listen to the backing without playing. Close your eyes and imagine your guitar sounding even there. Do this exercise tof 5 minutes. Tap with your foot while you do it.

2. Pick up your guitar and start playing over the backing. Close your eyes and tapi with your foot.


Do this two steps many times every day and you'll be able to feel the timing and go tight.

Please try it and let me know how it feels.


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Hi Gabriel

this is a new take a bit slower

edit: at full speed....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/test-speed-3

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Hi Laurent, it's getting better but you still have problems to play tight and clean triplets and 16th notes. Please keep on practicing every day. The best would be to isolate the trickier rhythms and work on them over the backing first, and then get back to the whole lesson.


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