Tone Testing New Pod |
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Tone Testing New Pod |
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Jun 24 2015, 09:03 AM |
needing a bit of help with this tone. I dont know what Im lacking to get it more like Chris'. Accepting the fact that Im not in the same league playing wise. Im not sure what the correct terminology is but the tone in the lesson is way tighter, maybe brighter? its like glass. my tone is kinda nasel in comparison, almost like ive got a wah slightly cocked. my tone is looser and more 'woofy' thats a word, right?
I dunno what im talking about! Why is my tone more ass-like in comparison? *excuse my dodgy playing https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/bend-tone the target tone any help would be appreciated -------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Jun 24 2015, 11:31 AM |
needing a bit of help with this tone. I dont know what Im lacking to get it more like Chris'. Accepting the fact that Im not in the same league playing wise. Im not sure what the correct terminology is but the tone in the lesson is way tighter, maybe brighter? its like glass. my tone is kinda nasel in comparison, almost like ive got a wah slightly cocked. my tone is looser and more 'woofy' thats a word, right? I dunno what im talking about! Why is my tone more ass-like in comparison? *excuse my dodgy playing https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/bend-tone the target tone any help would be appreciated When I posted the reply to the last video I did I said I was using a graphic EQ, I was wrong I been using the studio EQ. I know what you mean by glassy I think. You mean the higher notes sound like they ring more clearly without the lows drowning it all out? Cause that's how I would describe what I've been trying to accomplish with getting a good EQ and hearing the notes stand out clearly. The studio EQ has 3 knobs, and 2 drop down menus to chose frequencies for high and low. I play along with whatever I'm trying to match tones with and I mess with the frequencies to find something that's getting closer, then when I'm happy with my choice I fine tune it with the gain knob for both high and low. Then I adjust the overall gain. Of course I mess with the amp settings to, but not as much as the EQ. Also I been sticking with the sm57 and 87 condenser mic. While messing with the gain knob of the studio EQ you can add highs to come through and take away the low end or add some to make it all sound even. I don't know if I'm doing this right or if my explanation makes sense but that's the best way I can put it as I, new to this to. This post has been edited by dcz702: Jun 24 2015, 11:34 AM |
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Jun 24 2015, 03:38 PM |
needing a bit of help with this tone. I dont know what Im lacking to get it more like Chris'. Accepting the fact that Im not in the same league playing wise. Im not sure what the correct terminology is but the tone in the lesson is way tighter, maybe brighter? its like glass. my tone is kinda nasel in comparison, almost like ive got a wah slightly cocked. my tone is looser and more 'woofy' thats a word, right? I dunno what im talking about! Why is my tone more ass-like in comparison? *excuse my dodgy playing https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/bend-tone the target tone any help would be appreciated You have right and Chris has a brighter tone. Anyway you will have a difference in tone because of different guitars and pickups. Chris play on a Fender Standard Tele and from the start he already have that brightness in sound. Also he used that Way Huge Supa Puss analog delay which sound very cool and make the tone sound more "opened". In Guitar Rig it's easy to replace this pedal, making a combination between Psichedelay and Vintage Verb. Also in this way you will get a warm tone. Your tone it's not bad at all but has that "like in the box" sound for this lesson. I don't know how to explain better but it's a little dry, doesn’t have enough air (comparing with the lesson). You used in The Eye Opening collab a very cool tone that I love it, which had that "open" sound that I am talking about. I would try to go on the similar idea of settings. Also I would tweak more with delay and reverb for this lesson |
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Jun 25 2015, 07:55 PM |
Perhaps a pinch of "room tone" E.G. Sudio/Room Reverb and then a bit of bass cut before the primary gain stage? Can you put an EQ of some sort before you get to the overdrive/amp stage? Trimming bass before the gain stage will keep it from being boomy and make it sing a bit more and then you can eq bass on top of the signal during the amplifier stage and after it as well. Also, perhaps a bit of a bump on your treble at any point in the chain. yes, I can put eq before the amp although Im not 100% sure which one is best for cutting the bass. Here is the chain after I made a couple of changes based on what Monica and DCZ suggested, I basically added in an analogue delay and the studio eq ( not that I know how to work it! ) which is - gate- para eq- studio eq - amp - spring reverb - room reverb - analogue delay it sounds like this - https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/tonetest Im actually using my Sweet Cream overdrive pedal before the pod ( guitar > pedal > pod ) but I can add it into the effects loop and place it anywhere if necessary. -------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Jun 25 2015, 09:39 PM |
One tip, for the PRE EQ, maybe set the frequency down a bit. It looks like it's set to 500 Hz. Try to take it down to 300 or 250. Then play with how much cut you need by playing solo type licks on the lower strings and use a bit of palm mute. If it sounds muddy/boomy, reduce the percentage (not the frequency knob) a bit more til it sounds "tight".
Then increase the bass on the AMP so that it still sounds "warm" and "full" This should tighten the sound a bit and allow the "singing" quality once you apply a bit of compression (before the amp) and a bit of overdrive (before the amp as well). Let me know how that goes yes, I can put eq before the amp although Im not 100% sure which one is best for cutting the bass. Here is the chain after I made a couple of changes based on what Monica and DCZ suggested, I basically added in an analogue delay and the studio eq ( not that I know how to work it! ) which is - gate- para eq- studio eq - amp - spring reverb - room reverb - analogue delay it sounds like this - https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/tonetest Im actually using my Sweet Cream overdrive pedal before the pod ( guitar > pedal > pod ) but I can add it into the effects loop and place it anywhere if necessary. |
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Jun 26 2015, 05:53 AM |
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/tonetest Im actually using my Sweet Cream overdrive pedal before the pod ( guitar > pedal > pod ) but I can add it into the effects loop and place it anywhere if necessary. Now you have that "opened" sound and I like this very much But...we need to think more because still isn't similar with the lesson. One question: It’s possible in pod HD500x when you choose the amp, cab and mic model to choose the position for the microphone? |
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