Rec Grading Tweaks #2 |
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Jun 9 2015, 09:50 PM |
I do think he would complain on this - it's only about the arguments you point when trying to leave the lesson. Sorry, can you please explain this, I don't understand. Maybe something lost in translation -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 9 2015, 10:44 PM |
Sorry...tried to write too fast
I think he wouldn't complain on your idea to abandon a lesson as long, as your arguments would be valid |
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Jun 10 2015, 06:42 AM |
Sorry...tried to write too fast I think he wouldn't complain on your idea to abandon a lesson as long, as your arguments would be valid Ahh. Got it. Thanks @: Phil I cried two weeks (I'm not kidding) because I had to quit at a lesson (Hybrid Blues) because I didn't was able to play very fast the last 10 seconds. I can't say in words how much I worked with Darek for that lesson and to learn every tiny detail. For me was a huge tragedy because was my dream to finish a 6 level lesson. I was disappointed by me and I will never forgive myself until I will not finish that lesson. But... it was the moment to make a pause from that lesson because I was so stressed that I start to not be able to compose something. I have the luck that Darek knows me very well, stopped me and explained me how to see the things. He put me to work at another lesson. Guess what, I realized that all I learned from that hard lesson are very good fixed in my mind and hands. Also I already apply those things in my normal playing. I swear, the lesson that I love very much and changed completely my playing is exactly the lesson that I wasn't able to finish it. I learned more technical stuff and I catch a huge confidence in playing things that in the past I thought there are very hard to play. To work at Hybrid Blues was the best thing that I ever made even if i didn't finished the lesson Thanks Monica, That has inspired me to have more tenacity. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 10 2015, 08:56 AM |
However - banging your head against an old REC lesson which you are sick to death of - is not a fruitful thing to do IMO. Agreed but imagine the satisfaction of going back to something you struggled with and finding it pretty simple. We don't really notice ourselves improving just as a child doesn't really notice themselves getting taller. If we played something with ease that used to be hard a few months ago, that would really show in real terms how much you have improved. On your obsession thing, I too get obsessed and sometimes my time has run out and I've been trying to nail the same four bars for 90 minutes Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 10 2015, 07:34 PM |
I believe REC is all about challenging yourself and getting pro advice from our instructors. A failed lesson is only a "fail" if you learn nothing from your mistakes, as much as a "pass" would mean nothing if you didn't learn to achieve it.
Having said that, hope to see more and more REC takes than ever, no matter the grades, you will be getting better and better. -------------------- Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC |
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Jun 10 2015, 08:45 PM |
Just watched that video again, brilliant, puts me at ease about posting. Would it be annoying to judges if we posted a REC knowing that it's not good enough to pass but in order to get extra opinions to those from our mentor? I've always waited until my mentor (Gab, or before that Cosmin) told me to try it in the REC as it may pass. I would worry about offending my mentor if I posted without Gab saying to do it, I wouldn't want him to think I did not value his opinion. I hope this makes sense and you understand where I am coming from.
Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 10 2015, 09:19 PM |
I think it's up to the student to decide when to submit to REC, ie when you feel it will be beneficial for you. Perhaps you are stuck, feeling uninspired, need a second opinion etc. I don't think Gab would mind. Don't get me wrong, nobody has ever told me NOT to post to REC, I've just posted and posted to my thread until they've eventually said "I think you should post to the REC" -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 11 2015, 01:20 PM |
Hi guys! Interesting discussion here. About the REC grading, I've been thinking on a new approach in order to decide the grade that I'll give to the takes. Kris send me some old grading guidelines that included this topics:
1, Rhythm placement: Overall ability to play in rhythm and keep a steady tempo. This aspect should take into consideration the groove factor of certain lessons such as topics involving shuffle or swing type of rhythm. 2. Cleanness: The cleanness factor evaluates the student's ability to play something with clarity and precision. This is indicative of the overall level of playing as well as the amount of practice of this particular lesson 3. Feel: The feel factor determines if the student shows comfort in the chosen musical piece. Several factors are included in the feel criteria such as rhythm placement, posture and overall lesson execution. 4. Posture: Posture determines if the student is holding the instrument correctly and shows comfort while playing. This criteria should of course take into account the difficulty of the lesson. 5. Sound: The sound factor will grade the student's tone and ability to play a piece with a similar type of sound. This section will not give advantage to students with more expensive gear, it is more of a general way to see if you can chose an appropriate tone to the lesson you're working on. Each of these topics mean 2/10 of the total grade, and I'll include: 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5 and 2. The final grade will be the sum of everything. If I get a "x.5" I'll go to the closer low number. For example if the sum of everything is 5.5, my grade will be 5. I'll do this internally, I won't publish this method and individual concepts grades every time I evaluate a take but I wanted to share with you my new approach. What do you think? -------------------- My lessons
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Jun 11 2015, 02:42 PM |
I think the five elements and the total being displayed is a superb idea
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 11 2015, 02:57 PM |
Hi Gab, thank you for this clear language. Great concept All these elements together which is mportant in serious take. Why not show on the vote board they 5 elements with their grade ? This concept should be a new basis for all instructors. Sometimes the instructors explain their rating . It is not easy to understand English because the instructors are from various countries and it is not always correct in expression. The 5 elements help us understand where we are good or less good..... yes, the grade will include comments as always with feedback to explain which elements that need work to improve the take and reach a higher grade, and ideas on how to work them. -------------------- My lessons
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Jun 11 2015, 05:13 PM |
Hi Guys, I think the rec greading tweaks are a good idea. It makes the grading more clear and if it includes the five elements + grading it makes it even more clear
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Jun 11 2015, 08:14 PM |
If you wish to post a REC take, then just go ahead and do it!
Guitar should be fun, learning should be fun. If REC makes you happy, whatever the reason, go for it (showing your playing, climbing the ladders, getting instructors feedback...) You have nothing to lose and lots to learn. Not just playing but also about tone, video editing etc. Have FUN. -------------------- Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC |
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Jun 11 2015, 08:29 PM |
Great, thanks for that, as I said to Gab in my personal thread, I thought REC was purely like an exam, you only entered if you thought you had a chance of passing. Now I realise it is there for assessment. I will start posting more regularly, so long as I have the whole piece under my fingers in one way or another. I don't care if I get a 1, I'll just try for a 2, then a 3 etc etc etc
Thanks everyone, I feel liberated and inspired. Let's do this -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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