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post Sep 11 2015, 11:50 AM
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Yes, the G major scale is right so.


The major arpeggios that we use here are build like a major chords:
Root+Major3rd+Perfect 5th which means base note plus 4 semitones (or frets) + 3 semitones.

G (base)-B(four semitones over the G)-D(three semitones over the B/seven semitones over the G

So for the C and D arpeggios you would have : C-E-G and D-F#-A

In case of minor they would change (Base+3+4)


Does it make sense?
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post Sep 11 2015, 12:16 PM
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i sukx guy !!!

my theory skill is at the minimal knowledge

i do not understand your notation.

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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Sep 11 2015, 05:55 AM) *
Hello

this is a take from this morning, always some errors, false bend (outch....)but seem more rich than previous ones

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/impro-5

Laurent



Hi Laurent! Nice new take! There is a lot of music happening here! You playing is becoming more and more melodic. There are some moments where your bends have issues, and also some sections where you are out of scale but most of the time your playing is melodic. Remember to use silences as a part of your phrasing, I feel that your phrasing needs to breath a bit... don't you note it?



QUOTE (n3m57 @ Sep 11 2015, 07:21 AM) *
Nice fzalfa, I need your guitar skills smile.gif

I have zero guitar theory and I would understand something, tell me if I right please :

G major scale = G - A - B - C - D -E - F# octave G - A - B - C ...
So : 1 - 2- 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 octave 8 - 9 - 10- 11 ...

Arpeggios = Root - 3 - 5
Is it always +2 ?

Backing track = Root- 5 - 4 - 5 ( G - D - C - D)

I can play these shapes of arpeggios to follow the BT :
G -> 1 - 3 - 5
D -> 5 -7 -9
C -> 4 - 6 - 8
D -> 5 - 7 - 9


I can make some inversion too, like :

G -> 3 - 5 - 1
D -> 9 - 7 - 5
C -> 8 - 4 - 6



Hi mate,

Most of the things are correct here. However, if you want to understand the structure that builds the major scale I recommend you to check this articles:

Major Scales

Playing an arpeggio is playing the notes from a chord melodically (one after the other), instead of harmonically (all notes at the same time). Arpeggios as many notes as a chord can, from triads to extended chords. In this case we are using "triads", which are 3 notes chords or/and arpeggios.

Give a read to this: TRIADS



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post Sep 11 2015, 07:09 PM
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Hi Gab,
deadline is near and here comes my take. Its really tricky to evolve a nice melody .The scale and arpeggio shapes are not in my fingers yet - I often have to think about it.

Some more feedback:

- practiced >1hr/day as I needed to read about theory and learn the scale and arpeggio shapes. I feel not 100% comfortable yet and would include a few minutes in the next part to better memorize what we learned on part 1.

-was trying to include a larger part of the fretboard but found out that connecting the shapes when going up and down needs much more practice

-my beginner playing skill were great obstacle for nice faster lines or up and down plays

-was trying to include at least some phrasing like bends, slides, hammer on and vibrato

-and last: I enjoyed this very much. Its a nice combination of learning some theory and applying it.

https://soundcloud.com/user619267345/improassign1-12




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post Sep 11 2015, 08:29 PM
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yes i note it, and this is a new take, with more breath and less notes

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/debut-pas-mal

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post Sep 11 2015, 11:02 PM
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At the moment, I'm just able to listen to the backing track, follow its own melody/chord progression to play with the root note and then add some other notes (as the second or third interval) on one string. But I'm happy because this is yet a progress for me compared to scales.

Not sure there will be something melodic and listenable yet but I'm working on it.
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post Sep 12 2015, 11:53 AM
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Last take for the deadline :

https://soundcloud.com/mathieu-nguyen-6/g-major-impro-v2

Thank you for your advices Tom51 and Gab ! smile.gif
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wooo, nice one N3m57 !!


another take, sorry no breath......

errors because i listen to me and i lost concentration....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/fin-pas-mal

Laurent

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QUOTE (n3m57 @ Sep 12 2015, 10:53 AM) *
Last take for the deadline :

https://soundcloud.com/mathieu-nguyen-6/g-major-impro-v2

Thank you for your advices Tom51 and Gab ! smile.gif


I like this one very much. Very melodic, I can keep it in mind as a real melody. Congrats !

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Merci les gars smile.gif

Thanks mates !
Glad you like it smile.gif
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Here's mine Gabi.
Completely improvised in one take.
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/major-improv
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Hope you dont mind the youtube take, i found it difficult soloing over this one because I got bored easily and couldnt come up with much interesting things, i managed to throw in the Eric clapton quote in there haha. but i feel i was impatient and frustrated easily because im used to soloing over more modal , jazzy, or bluesy progressions.
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this video is private.....

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Fixed! thanks biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Tom51 @ Sep 11 2015, 03:09 PM) *
Hi Gab,
deadline is near and here comes my take. Its really tricky to evolve a nice melody .The scale and arpeggio shapes are not in my fingers yet - I often have to think about it.

Some more feedback:

- practiced >1hr/day as I needed to read about theory and learn the scale and arpeggio shapes. I feel not 100% comfortable yet and would include a few minutes in the next part to better memorize what we learned on part 1.

-was trying to include a larger part of the fretboard but found out that connecting the shapes when going up and down needs much more practice

-my beginner playing skill were great obstacle for nice faster lines or up and down plays

-was trying to include at least some phrasing like bends, slides, hammer on and vibrato

-and last: I enjoyed this very much. Its a nice combination of learning some theory and applying it.

https://soundcloud.com/user619267345/improassign1-12



Hi Tom!! Even with those things that you mark I have to say that you are doing an excellent work with this first week. You are playing tasty melodies while exploring the scales and arpeggios. I'm not expecting to hear flashy shredding solos on this. There is a lot to go be combining the notes to create nice phrases and using expressing techniques to make them sound even nicer. Keep on working like this.




QUOTE (fzalfa @ Sep 11 2015, 04:29 PM) *
yes i note it, and this is a new take, with more breath and less notes

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/debut-pas-mal

Laurent



Hi Laurent, I feel that your real solo starts in the second half, and I don't really note the use of silences to let your phrasing breath. Do you think it's there?

Some inspiration: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The_tasty_etude/



QUOTE (n3m57 @ Sep 12 2015, 07:53 AM) *
Last take for the deadline :

https://soundcloud.com/mathieu-nguyen-6/g-major-impro-v2

Thank you for your advices Tom51 and Gab ! smile.gif



Hi mate! Nice playing! I think that you solo evolves really well which shows that you are able to see your improvisation as a whole thing and as a song composer. The evolution is done by the quantity of notes of your phrasing but also with the addition of those nice harmonies in the end. I can also say that adding some silences here could let your phrasing breath a bit more, but the excellent work done with the evolution of your solo make it cool to hear. Keep on experimenting with this!



QUOTE (fzalfa @ Sep 12 2015, 11:37 AM) *
wooo, nice one N3m57 !!


another take, sorry no breath......

errors because i listen to me and i lost concentration....

https://soundcloud.com/maxime-bon-3/fin-pas-mal

Laurent



The second half of this solo! Starting at 00:30! That's the direction! Please keep on exploring with this kind of simple but catchy melodies! Please avoid fast melodies at this point, and remember more silences! smile.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 12 2015, 04:56 PM) *
Here's mine Gabi.
Completely improvised in one take.
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/major-improv
smile.gif smile.gif




Very nice mate! I enjoyed your phrasing on this one as well as your tone. Your playing is catchy and your phrasing keep on evolving and exploring different elements to keep in interesting. I consider that this take shows that you have a good knowledge of the scale and arpeggios so the next step would be to try this concepts over different major backing tracks and see what happens. You can use Youtube or GMC lessons for this and off course you can share your takes with us here. smile.gif

QUOTE (lpguitar92 @ Sep 13 2015, 02:23 AM) *


Hope you dont mind the youtube take, i found it difficult soloing over this one because I got bored easily and couldnt come up with much interesting things, i managed to throw in the Eric clapton quote in there haha. but i feel i was impatient and frustrated easily because im used to soloing over more modal , jazzy, or bluesy progressions.



Hi mate! I like your playing over this one! This first assignment is designed to explore the concepts behind the caged system and arpeggios. The idea is to use it to learn the shapes, connect with the notes and also deleted those blind spots that we use to have in the fret-board. If you have all this things covered you can off course use some other backing tracks to create major melodies and phrasing and share them here to inspired other students... what do you think? smile.gif


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I don't really note the use of silences to let your phrasing breath. Do you think it's there?


yes, in fact no, no silence, i must learn how to shut-up sometimes !

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 14 2015, 12:31 AM) *
Very nice mate! I enjoyed your phrasing on this one as well as your tone. Your playing is catchy and your phrasing keep on evolving and exploring different elements to keep in interesting. I consider that this take shows that you have a good knowledge of the scale and arpeggios so the next step would be to try this concepts over different major backing tracks and see what happens. You can use Youtube or GMC lessons for this and off course you can share your takes with us here. smile.gif

Thanks Gabi!I'll definitely post some more takes using different backings during the week!
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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Sep 14 2015, 07:24 AM) *
yes, in fact no, no silence, i must learn how to shut-up sometimes !

Laurent



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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 14 2015, 08:26 AM) *
Thanks Gabi!I'll definitely post some more takes using different backings during the week!
smile.gif smile.gif



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 13 2015, 11:31 PM) *
Hi mate! Nice playing! I think that you solo evolves really well which shows that you are able to see your improvisation as a whole thing and as a song composer. The evolution is done by the quantity of notes of your phrasing but also with the addition of those nice harmonies in the end. I can also say that adding some silences here could let your phrasing breath a bit more, but the excellent work done with the evolution of your solo make it cool to hear. Keep on experimenting with this!


Thanks for the kind words Gab, I took all the night from Friday to Saturday to create the second half of this take lol smile.gif

I really like playing melody and harmony but I need more knowledges about patterns/licks and mostly how I can use harmony. (2 guitars together like Iron Maiden)

What is the next step ? G Major Pentatonic ?





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QUOTE (n3m57 @ Sep 14 2015, 10:11 AM) *
Thanks for the kind words Gab, I took all the night from Friday to Saturday to create the second half of this take lol smile.gif

I really like playing melody and harmony but I need more knowledges about patterns/licks and mostly how I can use harmony. (2 guitars together like Iron Maiden)

What is the next step ? G Major Pentatonic ?



Keep on experimenting with this elements, you'll have news here soon. wink.gif


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