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post Sep 13 2015, 02:57 AM
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I was looking into recording directly from my amp for some REC takes. I know the the SM57 is considered the standard for recording guitar, but there is something about it that I don't like. It doesn't seem like it captures the whole "atmosphere" of the guitar sound. It seems like it's very sensitive to the way you position it as well.

I have very little experience recording a speaker. But from the demos I've seen on YouTube, the e609 produces the best sound, especially for clean tones.

Does anybody have any experience with this mic? Or do you have another mic that you recommend? Price is definitely a consideration.


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I agree with the sm57 comment but the bonus of it is you can really work fast atleast in a studio environment. Cause of that extra deep mid. freq.s the tone simply fits easy in a mix.

My only experience with that mic. is I had this ir library and cab.s captured with it sounded best to me when listened solo.

If you already have an sm57 why not grab one and blend them if you have enough inputs on soundcard (sm57, e609 and di input). If you checked the amplitube 4 video you'll notice it has an internal mixer in it to blend different mic.s, thats the best way to get tone when mixing guitars (besides using ir cab.s which actually works the same way).


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post Sep 13 2015, 09:41 PM
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I don't have any hands-on expereince with E609, but it seems many people use it with the sm57. In other words, they don't really seem to do the same thing - but can rather complement each other.

The sm57 will give you that bright sound which is needed to cut through in rock/metal. Bare in mind that a great guitar tone in a mix will often sound horrible when soloed - I think this is the reason why the sm57 get slots of hate even though it has been (and still is!) the #1 choice for many top dollar metal/rock productions.

If you are looking for a warmer lead sound to be used in a ballad/blues/fusion song without any distorted rhythm guitars or aggressive drums, then I would probably find a midrangy mic such as E609 a much better choice.


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post Sep 13 2015, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 13 2015, 04:41 PM) *
I don't have any hands-on expereince with E609, but it seems many people use it with the sm57. In other words, they don't really seem to do the same thing - but can rather complement each other.

The sm57 will give you that bright sound which is needed to cut through in rock/metal. Bare in mind that a great guitar tone in a mix will often sound horrible when soloed - I think this is the reason why the sm57 get slots of hate even though it has been (and still is!) the #1 choice for many top dollar metal/rock productions.

If you are looking for a warmer lead sound to be used in a ballad/blues/fusion song without any distorted rhythm guitars or aggressive drums, then I would probably find a midrangy mic such as E609 a much better choice.


I'll have to put this into consideration biggrin.gif Two mics responding to different frequencies does make sense. So I guess I'll need some sort of mixer and a mic preamp?


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post Sep 13 2015, 09:53 PM
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Yes, I think the E609 will give you warmth while sm57 will give you bite.

I believe you can get away without much pre-amp gain, since you will be miking up a loud source (the guitar amp), so for this specific application you can probably get away with a cheap pre-amp.

If you are not used to miking up amps, I would say starting with this type of advanced setup might be a little too much. Instead I'd rather start with sm57 only which is the industry standard - if you want to record rock/metal stuff.


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post Sep 14 2015, 06:01 AM
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I use them all the time. Standard at clubs out here for micing guitar cabs.
They're popular because they can take very high sound pressure levels and you can hang the mic by it's cable over the front of the amp. They reject sound from the sides and back ... which is a good thing in a 'live' situation.
They don't sound too much different from a (good/real/not counterfeit) sm57 as they are both super cardioid mics. Placement is everything.


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post Sep 14 2015, 01:45 PM
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This mic is sometimes used as an alternative to SM57, but as Kris said, most of the times is used combined with SM57 to get a different tone. Then, when mixing, you can combine both with different levels to get different natural Eqs. On professional recording SM57 is always the chosen one, and it's usually combined with different mics like E609, AKG421 and also any condenser mic. The condenser mic is usually used as a room but I've also used it in front of the amp.

My personal experience is that you end up using ALWAYS the SM57 take in the mix, and use the others to balance EQ, which is not a small thing on pro recordings.





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post Sep 15 2015, 02:03 AM
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The main trick is to make sure you have enough volume coming out of your amp. Most folks just stick it dead center in the cone and turn out quite loud. it's very sensitive to positioning yes. What you are going through now is the "learning curve" of recording a guitar amp. You can skip it and record direct just for the rec takes but learning how to get a good sound with a real mic is a fight worth fighting IMHO smile.gif

THe e609 is a very nice mic IMHO for guitar. As mentioned, Some folks will use both the 57 and e609 and pan them right and left. Results in a very big sound smile.gif

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QUOTE (Mudbone @ Sep 12 2015, 09:57 PM) *
I was looking into recording directly from my amp for some REC takes. I know the the SM57 is considered the standard for recording guitar, but there is something about it that I don't like. It doesn't seem like it captures the whole "atmosphere" of the guitar sound. It seems like it's very sensitive to the way you position it as well.

I have very little experience recording a speaker. But from the demos I've seen on YouTube, the e609 produces the best sound, especially for clean tones.

Does anybody have any experience with this mic? Or do you have another mic that you recommend? Price is definitely a consideration.


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post Sep 16 2015, 02:44 AM
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Thanks for all your input guys! biggrin.gif I think I will end up getting both.

So how do I hook it up to my laptop? laugh.gif


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Through your interface of course smile.gif Just make sure you get an interface/sound card with two XLR inputs. The focusrite series are quite good and can be hand for about $150 new.

QUOTE (Mudbone @ Sep 15 2015, 09:44 PM) *
Thanks for all your input guys! biggrin.gif I think I will end up getting both.

So how do I hook it up to my laptop? laugh.gif



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