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AyanG
post Sep 19 2015, 12:23 PM
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Hi,

I would like to know whether it is good to buy individual pedals or a guitar processors when starting out with them?Also the brands to look out for while buying them.

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post Sep 19 2015, 01:53 PM
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You can add computer to these options too. Answers will vary considering your style and needs.

Computer wasn't an option when I started, after upgrading my practice amp bought a (very affordable) dist. pedal and didn't like it at all. Bought a processor and couldn't be happier, with the help of presents I learned the fx like chorus, compressor etc. and created tones I really liked. With this setup I also started playing on stage, wasn't portable as the amp was heavy but worked.

Jumped to the computer age as I was already into recording, the processor was used for a while but not the amp-since then the amp is collecting dust smile.gif soon later plug-ins sounded good and I liked being able to work at night without waking up the neighbors. Since then the processor started collecting dust biggrin.gif

Since maybe 2 years my expectations expanded on tone and specially feel of guitar and finally started using pedals together with the computer. Pretty much all my overdrive and dist. tone is coming from pedals and the rest from computer. Computer and processors can never nail true analog tone but analog pedals help this. And I still have the amp, for fun or stage all I have to do is set the pedals for the amp and I'm ready to rock smile.gif

Hope this helps for you to find what kind of approach to gear you need smile.gif

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post Sep 19 2015, 03:06 PM
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maybe take a look for a second hand BOSS GT-100

it's a really good stuff !, maybe find at about 250€

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post Sep 19 2015, 03:38 PM
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Hey,

Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.Would love to hear from others as well.Since I am very new to these two things,so I would appreciate if you share some insights on them as well.


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post Sep 20 2015, 02:17 PM
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about the GT-100 , follow this link, it explain far better than me

http://www.bossus.com/products/gt-100/

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post Sep 20 2015, 03:22 PM
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go for a processor. Individual pedals carry a usually single sound and for a single prupose . If you don't know what you need , you could spend alot of time and wasted money . With a processor (or computer program ) , you can get to know your effects and how to use them , then , you will have a better understanding if you want to venture into stomp pedals .

Do you have a budget ?
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post Sep 20 2015, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 20 2015, 02:22 PM) *
go for a processor. Individual pedals carry a usually single sound and for a single prupose . If you don't know what you need , you could spend alot of time and wasted money . With a processor (or computer program ) , you can get to know your effects and how to use them , then , you will have a better understanding if you want to venture into stomp pedals .

Do you have a budget ?


Hi,

Thanks for sharing.Yea I have a pressed budget although biggrin.gif ......and since I am starting out,I dont want to spend much in my first processor.The reason being I will be learning the use of a processor from scratch,and once I get used to it.....I will peek into the better ones in the market.What do you say?

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post Sep 20 2015, 08:43 PM
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Multi fx processors would probably be the way to go. Did you want a floor based unit? Because you can get Software based rigs, or an amp such as the Fender Mustang, Yamaha THR10, Blackstar ID Core, etc where you can control all the effects and amps with your laptop. I prefer this over floor based units, because I don't like having to spend hours bent over twiddling with knobs (Pun intended Ben Higgins wink.gif) on the floor.


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post Sep 20 2015, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (AyanG @ Sep 19 2015, 12:23 PM) *
Hi,

I would like to know whether it is good to buy individual pedals or a guitar processors when starting out with them?Also the brands to look out for while buying them.

Thanks

I started with a secondhand line6 ux1. It cost me about £30. Plugged it into the PC and I was up and running using Pod Farm for the amps and effects. It wasnt the greatest but it was good enough for me to get going, I had some half decent tones out of it. I think Monica used or uses one as well and she has always got really nice tones ( way better than I did! ).
I found it really good to get me started.


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post Sep 21 2015, 06:37 AM
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Hi,Thanx for sharing...... I was checking on the different budget processors that are good for beginners....and I came across this Zoom G1Xon......kindly share if you have any idea about this product.....



QUOTE (bleez @ Sep 20 2015, 09:38 PM) *
I started with a secondhand line6 ux1. It cost me about £30. Plugged it into the PC and I was up and running using Pod Farm for the amps and effects. It wasnt the greatest but it was good enough for me to get going, I had some half decent tones out of it. I think Monica used or uses one as well and she has always got really nice tones ( way better than I did! ).
I found it really good to get me started.


Hey,

Thanks for sharing......will check about this.Seems pretty decent for me.


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post Sep 21 2015, 08:59 AM
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I responded at your PM first, so you will find my explanations there wink.gif
Let me know if you need any help for settings. I will help you with much pleasure.



QUOTE (bleez @ Sep 20 2015, 09:38 PM) *
I think Monica used or uses one as well and she has always got really nice tones ( way better than I did! ).

Thank you Bleez you are too kind smile.gif
BTW after 2 weeks full of experiments, I finally made my first metal tone and I managed to do it similar 90% (10% is different because of different guitar pickups) with 90's Metal Chops lesson. But...the funny thing is that it took me two weeks to match the tone and probably I will need 1 year (or more biggrin.gif ) to be able to finish that lesson biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2015, 07:05 PM
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I have a BOSS ME-70 which is awesome and not expensive. It's a few years old don't know if they still make that model, but I'm sure a similar one is on the market.


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post Sep 21 2015, 10:13 PM
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What is your price range? That will determine your options pretty much. The good news is that for about $250 US you can get a good multi processor smile.gif Some folks like pedals and a nice amp, but you can always do that later at some point. I'd say get a processor that is also an audio interface. Any of the Boss products or Line 6 pod products will get the job done and on the cheap!! If you can afford one thought, I'd say get a USED avid eleven rack. Best money I ever spent.

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Hi,

Thanks for sharing.Yea I have a pressed budget although biggrin.gif ......and since I am starting out,I dont want to spend much in my first processor.The reason being I will be learning the use of a processor from scratch,and once I get used to it.....I will peek into the better ones in the market.What do you say?



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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 21 2015, 11:13 PM) *
.... I'd say get a processor that is also an audio interface...


+1 On that. That way you can record what you play with no latency issues. That takes out of the equation the ME-70, but as was said before, newer similar models with audio interface (USB recording) capabilities are out on the market.

Also: I'd get one with pedals so you can switch distortion/effects/wah/volume while you play. "Tabletop" multieffects don't usually allow that.


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post Sep 22 2015, 08:08 PM
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can I record my playing with a processor(floor based) to my laptop?


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post Sep 22 2015, 08:40 PM
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As long as the processor has a USB port meant for recording, then sure thing smile.gif


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can I record my playing with a processor(floor based) to my laptop?


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