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Francis Viviers
post Jul 23 2007, 09:04 AM
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Hi guys.

I'm looking to buy a new amp and im unsure of which to get. I would love some feedback from you guys. I currently have a peavey classic 30 which I'm selling and a roland cube 60. I want an amp thats full valve, got nice cleans and its distortion channel but be high gain.

BTW it does not help talking bout mesa, bogner ( Handbuild british and american ) cos we dont get them in this country sad.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Jul 23 2007, 10:04 AM) *
Hi guys.

I'm looking to buy a new amp and im unsure of which to get. I would love some feedback from you guys. I currently have a peavey classic 30 which I'm selling and a roland cube 60. I want an amp thats full valve, got nice cleans and its distortion channel but be high gain.

BTW it does not help talking bout mesa, bogner ( Handbuild british and american ) cos we dont get them in this country sad.gif

How about Peavey 6506+ for a mid priced hi gain amp?
For a low budget amp there's Bugera 333 or 6262 (which are rip off of Peavey XXX and 6505+)


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post Jul 23 2007, 12:59 PM
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Also an Engl - Powerball if you can but I think all Engl's do clean and hi-gain well. They should be a lot easier to get also then Bogners and such like as well smile.gif .

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post Jul 23 2007, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jul 23 2007, 01:59 PM) *
Also an Engl - Powerball if you can but I think all Engl's do clean and hi-gain well. They should be a lot easier to get also then Bogners and such like as well smile.gif .

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+1 on the ENGL.
(I'd chose an ENGL before the Peavey 6505 for myself)


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Francis Viviers
post Jul 23 2007, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Jul 23 2007, 02:32 PM) *
+1 on the ENGL.
(I'd chose an ENGL before the Peavey 6505 for myself)


We dont have engl either ;(
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post Jul 23 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Jul 23 2007, 03:12 PM) *
We dont have engl either ;(

Where are you from?

What do you have?

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post Jul 23 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Jul 23 2007, 03:25 PM) *
Where are you from?

What do you have?


From South Africa. We have peavey, marshall, huges and kettner, fender, vox, epiphone etc. None of the REAL expensive yet nice amps. Only one company here is bringing in mesa and their somewhere on a ship on the moment. sad.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:04 PM
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Yeez and I thought be and MickeM had problems getting access to the more esoteric kit!

Perhaps have a look at the new Marshall JVM, pretty certain it's 4 channels and it does clean through to hi-gain. Huges and Kettner are good (MickeM has one so they must be biggrin.gif ). Think someone has mentioned that Vox now do a hi gain version of one of their amps...

Don't know if you can do this but can you consider maybe importing direct from the states? You'd probably need some form of transformer fitted though.

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post Jul 23 2007, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Jul 23 2007, 04:30 AM) *
How about Peavey 6506+ for a mid priced hi gain amp?
For a low budget amp there's Bugera 333 or 6262 (which are rip off of Peavey XXX and 6505+)


Yeah i think the Peavey would work well....Why is this thread in Masterclass and not Gear Talk?


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post Jul 24 2007, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jul 23 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Yeez and I thought be and MickeM had problems getting access to the more esoteric kit!

Perhaps have a look at the new Marshall JVM, pretty certain it's 4 channels and it does clean through to hi-gain. Huges and Kettner are good (MickeM has one so they must be biggrin.gif ). Think someone has mentioned that Vox now do a hi gain version of one of their amps...

Don't know if you can do this but can you consider maybe importing direct from the states? You'd probably need some form of transformer fitted though.

Cheers,
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Ill have a go on that peavey 6505. What do you guys think about a Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602 ? Another option is this B52 licenced amps, they sound nice tho i cant find any information on them ?
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Jul 24 2007, 03:07 AM) *
Ill have a go on that peavey 6505. What do you guys think about a Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602 ? Another option is this B52 licenced amps, they sound nice tho i cant find any information on them ?



I have owned a TSL rig for several years and let me tell you it is good at one thing and one thing only. Brit high Gain. The clean channel is one of the worst in the business and the TSL gives more gain than any sane person needs. If you REALLY like Brit High Gain just grab a DSL.

If however you want one of the best cleans on the market go get a Fender. Almost any of their reissue series are good, the Vibrolux is also good and for ultimate versatility I have been having a lot of fun listening to their new Super-Sonic. I recently just spent the whole day at my local guitar shop with a couple buds and we tried everything from Fenders, Line6, Mesa, Marshall, Vox... etc. By far the best cleans were had by Fenders. And some of the better built-in distortion came out of one or two Vox combos and the Mesa. But the one thing we all admired was how well the Fender's took effects pedals without turning to mush. I ended up leaving with one and I wasn't even planning on it tongue.gif

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post Jul 25 2007, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (Hardtail @ Jul 25 2007, 06:19 AM) *
I have owned a TSL rig for several years and let me tell you it is good at one thing and one thing only. Brit high Gain. The clean channel is one of the worst in the business and the TSL gives more gain than any sane person needs. If you REALLY like Brit High Gain just grab a DSL.

If however you want one of the best cleans on the market go get a Fender. Almost any of their reissue series are good, the Vibrolux is also good and for ultimate versatility I have been having a lot of fun listening to their new Super-Sonic. I recently just spent the whole day at my local guitar shop with a couple buds and we tried everything from Fenders, Line6, Mesa, Marshall, Vox... etc. By far the best cleans were had by Fenders. And some of the better built-in distortion came out of one or two Vox combos and the Mesa. But the one thing we all admired was how well the Fender's took effects pedals without turning to mush. I ended up leaving with one and I wasn't even planning on it tongue.gif

Hope that helped.

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Is the TSL's cleans really that bad ... sad.gif Maby i must go play around with a fender amp. Maby i can get cash from somewhere to get an rackmoutable disttortion and effects smile.gif
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post Jul 25 2007, 09:55 AM
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It IS hard task to get both nice clean and hi-gain distortion in one amp.
Yeah,probably best way is to get some full tube Fender combo and then to add some pedal or rack unit for distortion.Maybe Maxon,Rocktron or som?


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post Jul 25 2007, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (muris @ Jul 25 2007, 10:55 AM) *
It IS hard task to get both nice clean and hi-gain distortion in one amp.
Yeah,probably best way is to get some full tube Fender combo and then to add some pedal or rack unit for distortion.Maybe Maxon,Rocktron or som?



Thanks Any ideas which fenders i should go try out ?

Also i dont know allot about rack mountable units tho i would like to go that route. i like the fact that i can just save presets via a midi board.
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Almost every Fender combo is awesome for clean,just try few models and see the prices.
Rocktron Gainiac 1 or 2 is not expensive unit without midi stuff,but sound really nice.Has 2 channels I think.
Units like Voodoo Valve or Prophesy have full midi but they will cost you more.


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QUOTE (muris @ Jul 25 2007, 11:07 AM) *
Almost every Fender combo is awesome for clean,just try few models and see the prices.
Rocktron Gainiac 1 or 2 is not expensive unit without midi stuff,but sound really nice.Has 2 channels I think.
Units like Voodoo Valve or Prophesy have full midi but they will cost you more.


Ill go have a look at some fender amps then. Maby a hotrod deluxe or sumthing. Should work well since i only use fender strats.

The voodoo valve looks nice. But the prophesy is more advanced tho. I see you use a prophecy muris ? What you think of it ?
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QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Jul 25 2007, 11:38 AM) *
Ill go have a look at some fender amps then. Maby a hotrod deluxe or sumthing. Should work well since i only use fender strats.

The voodoo valve looks nice. But the prophesy is more advanced tho. I see you use a prophecy muris ? What you think of it ?


Yeah Prophesy is great unit,good sounding drive plus nice effects.
I had Voodoo Valve as well,less expensive but still great one.


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QUOTE (muris @ Jul 25 2007, 11:41 AM) *
Yeah Prophesy is great unit,good sounding drive plus nice effects.
I had Voodoo Valve as well,less expensive but still great one.


Hmm i will try em out, wonder if we get it in this country ...
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QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Jul 25 2007, 11:46 AM) *
Hmm i will try em out, wonder if we get it in this country ...



Yes,almost same situation here in Bosnia,no authorized dealer for those brands.
So I'm buying stuff on Ebay,mostly in Germany,and then I arrange shipping to Bosnia.


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QUOTE (muris @ Jul 25 2007, 11:59 AM) *
Yes,almost same situation here in Bosnia,no authorized dealer for those brands.
So I'm buying stuff on Ebay,mostly in Germany,and then I arrange shipping to Bosnia.


Yeah my problem is, in south africa your are extremely far from any place than can actually buy it.
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